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Discussion: Pete D

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Feb. 3, 2008
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Pete D
So as not to jack the thread I read the post about your knees, I would like to know what And or how you over came the knee problems.
I know what that is or was for you.
Thanks
tait_ebay@yahoo.com
Feb. 3, 2008
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Taits -

Yeah - that was a conflicting cacophony of malcontent for me physically and mentally and not very pleasant. It was a short stint and served the purpose but I guess someone I don't know thought they'd cheap shot me. If they know me then they should come up and talk to me. Maybe I should have sat for 1/2 a year or so to keep someone I don't know happy.
There's a lot of players there that could play higher but at content to be the "big fish". It was an interesting experience. I'm not built to do that. I'd rather jump and hit the ceiling to find out how high my ceiling is than than hide in the cellar. I saw more stilted attitudes there than I've seen and any other level interestingly enough.

Some of the things I did for the knees
:
Initially I had both legs braced for about 90 days. I started feeling that the braces were actually weakening the knees rather than strengthening and went to the big rubber knee pads I wear now. They give me some support along with the protection and allow my knees to flex.
I stopped playing a lot of league games especially the ones with poor field conditions.
Since I couldn't run I increased my walking some.
I used to LOVE to run but now I run hard only when the situation demands it in short bursts. When in the outfield during BP I'll usually sprint towards the ball a couple of times to gauge then go easy after that.
I started taking Osteo-Biflex triple strength and that really seemed to help. My knees really ached for the 1st week or so but have felt much better since.
I take Aleve starting the day before a tourney and that keeps the swelling to a minimum. I was taking Tylenol but found the Aleve to be much better. I don't like taking any "pills" other than regular vitamins.
Someone told me the reason a lot of knees & knee transplants fail is due to the fact that people don't work the muscles around the knee area to keep everthing taut. I considered getting a bike to ride but settled for the gym. A few years back I would start 2 leg pressing at 450# and work up. Now I use 350# and do more reps and never go above 390# (I feel it on my back now when I go higher).
Instead of tennis shoes which seem to work against my knees I've been wearing H-Tec low cut hicking shoes - like a tennis shoe but with a little higher heel and more padding in the sole. I wear them on turf and they work just fine. I wear some funky slip on sandels I found at Sketechers a lot that are like the Hi-Tec's but lighter. They are supposed to be OK to run in but I won't chance that.
I take a lot of BP and tee work so I wear the Hi-Tec shoes so not to anchor to back foot too much too often.
I've had both ankles operated on and was told to forget sports that I'd never run and always walk with a limp that's one reason I played it very carefully with the knees when I hurt them. To give me a good foundation I wear the mid Tanels and have since the 80's. I think they are the best foundation we have available. I did try turf shoes but my knees screamed after about 15 minutes so I sold them - they had too much grip.
Sometimes if I tweak a knee I'll go to the Hi-Tec shoes for the rest of the tourney figuring I'd rather have some give at the ground than at the knee.
On defense I try and keep my stance balanced as much as I can and it has helped as far a movement and center of gravity (recent change from observing others).
I watched my diet and went low fat @ 3-4-5 small meals a day and lost 30# which has to help the knees.

Hope that helps you & anyone else that might need it.
Feb. 3, 2008
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
I think that will help a lot of guys actually.
For me my knees were trashed in a motorcycle accident. Have refused to have replacements but have endured 5 ops on them. I take a liquid form of Ostio....
use a sole insert for both feet for arch suppost what sure help but they are by RX.
Usually do the walking but lately with the rain, none.
No riding bikes, it just worsens the pain. No weights either. I do use the pads and braces, one can't miss them.
As for replacements, I think you were referring to atrophy of the muscles. You'll loose what you have unless you work them, especially after surg. The saying no pain, no gain is the read deal here. Just have to know when to stop and continue like in weight lifting,
lbs vs number of reps, your body & mind will talk to you.
Feb. 3, 2008
Mitch
Men's 50
68 posts
I had knee surgery on my left knee and then physical therapy after that. The physical therapist showed me an excersise that works every muscle around the knee at the same time. You're right about the muscles around the knee, they all have to be strong in order stabilize the knee itself.
The excersise goes like this: what you have to do is find something round and about 6 inches in diameter and maybe 12 to 18 inches long. They had a piece of very dense foam in the therapy place. I used an old towel at home and it works just as good. Take the towel and fold it in half length wise. Then roll it up as tight as possible and tape it so it stays rolled up. Put it on the floor and put one foot on it and the other beside it to help you with balance. Then slowly lift up the foot that's on the floor and try to balance yourself on the rolled up towel. You will be surprised how difficult this is. Every muscle around the knee is used when trying to balance on the towel. It's kinda like the new core training where you use the other muscles that support to larger muscles and help stablize them.
I hope this helps you cause it sure has helped me. Good Luck
Feb. 4, 2008
floo56
Men's 50
37 posts
I have tried the Phiten products....I sleep with the socks and a loose sleeve....they also make a liquid rub. These have help the inflammation and my performance during multiple game situations. Aloha, Fabe
Feb. 4, 2008
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Fabe -

Thanks I forgot that. While I haven't tried anything but the liquid it has worked well on the knees + on my wife's sciatica (but not with as much success/harsher problem).
Feb. 5, 2008
floo56
Men's 50
37 posts
Pete,
Try the compression shorts or long pants for your wife...I recently had that problem and the long pants helped alot! Aloha, Fabe
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