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Discussion: What to wear for shoes at Golden Eagle/Reno

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May 22, 2008
Llama Man
Men's 55
15 posts
What to wear for shoes at Golden Eagle/Reno
I'm wondering what is the best type of shoes to wear on these new fields at the Golden Eagle Sports Complex in Sparks for the Rock-N-Reno tourney. I've never played on these type of fields and would appreciate any info/advice anyone has on what works best.Will the large rubber baseball style cleats work? Or do the type with many smaller cleats over the entire foot work better? Or do flat bottom sneakers work best? And is there any dirt around the bases at all? Thanks for any help anyone can give me!
Llama Man
May 22, 2008
the wood
1078 posts
Looking at the many pro players (baseball, football, etc.), it seems that most of them wear turf shoes... i.e. the ones with the 60-80 short pegs on the bottom... this is why they were originally invented. But I have seen guys wear the traditional rubber cleats as well.
I use the turf shoes on all surfaces and have found them to be outstanding. The one drawback for me is that tend to fill up with mud more than the others. But you wouldn't expect to find much mud on an artificial turf.
BW
May 22, 2008
Llama Man
Men's 55
15 posts
BW,
Thanks for the reply.....I always wear turf shoes also but was wondering if they would grab too much or too quickly and stick in the atificail turf? Guess I'll find out when I get on it.....I'll bring flat bottom sneakers too in case there is a problem.
May 23, 2008
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Llama man, I wear Tanel shoes. I have a pair of each , one cleat and one turf. You can't go wrong with Tanel , it's a good ideal to have both and they are VERY LIGHT !
May 26, 2008
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
Llama....I played in the old Pro League back in the late 70's, when we playing in Columbus, OH. on the turf we used spikes very similar to the Boombah or 3N2, they worked very well. You'll feel like Bob Hayes again running on the turf!!!!
May 26, 2008
Jawood
Men's 50
794 posts
I believe this is field turf not the old crappy astro turf of the 80's. You can wear your regular shoes, it is as close to real grass as you can get.
May 26, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Guys,
This turf is monster good.
I've played with cleats/sneakers/hiking shoes
and everything works.
Might take a game or 2
to get used to difference(bounce)
in the turf but for infielders
there's no such thing as a bad hop
and outfielders can run with confidence
knowing there's no major irregularity of footing.
May 26, 2008
Dbax
Men's 60
1267 posts
Einstein, isn't the infield dirt? Or is the whole field turf?
May 27, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Bax,
You know
I don't know if it's broken down that way.
I've played mostly on fields that were/are 100 percent synthetic
and I just assumed the new fields were, too.
Yeah, if it's partially dirt
then cleats or turf shoes would be better.
It's still a great surface to play on once you get used to it.
May 27, 2008
Hit the gap
Men's 60
143 posts
Hey guys. The photo looks like it's all synthetic. Not even a dirt area around the bases for sliding. Field Turf is not all it's cracked up to be. Here are some of the downsides.

The abrasions caused by artificial turf have been linked to a higher incidence of MRSA infections .

Some artificial turf requires infill such as silicon sand and/or granulated rubber made from recycled car tires. This material may carry heavy metals which can leach into the water table.

Periodic disinfection is required as pathogens are not broken down by natural processes in the same manner as natural turf. This notwithstanding, recent studies suggest certain microbial life is less active.

Turf toe is a medical condition which is often associated with playing on artificial turf pitches.

Friction between skin and artificial turf causes abrasions and/or burns to a much greater extent than natural grass. This is an issue for some sports: for example, football and baseball in which sliding maneuvers are common and clothing does not fully cover the limbs.

Artificial turf tends to be much hotter than natural grass when exposed to the sun.

Many players claim that the lack of "give" in artificial turf leads to strain and injury in the legs, especially amongst players used to playing on natural grass. Some players refuse to play on artificial turf, and there have been cases of players not signing with a particular team for fear of damaging their legs by playing on artificial turf.
May 27, 2008
lcable
8 posts
Sliding is not one of those things you should do if the infield areas are synthetic. Use to play soccer in the Kingdome (way back when), and unless you like serious leg burn (like rug burn), keep upright ! I like the waffle bottom shoes for synthetic fields. Perfect for start and stoppping motions without messing up the knees.
May 28, 2008
Dbax
Men's 60
1267 posts
So, have we agreed that it is not a dirt infield? If so, that is crazy. How would one slide? You will break an ankle. Does anyone know for sure?
May 28, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
HTG, first I always find it more enjoyable and
respectful knowing whom I am addressing
and reacting with.
Sounds like you're from the Northwest and must know Bashbro, the Crusher
and Bear.

I'm not an expert on Turf
I would defer to Bashbro or Woody or Kevin S
to help out with important ideas and pertinent info
any/all times going forward but
Astroturf, Carpet, Synthetic Turf are not all the same stuff.

The synthetic surface that I think is being employed is made up of little bits of rubber
and as such has much more give, a lot like real dirt, than the older versions
of the Carpet or Turf.
I know some of the things you refer to were slams on the older versions
of Turf that were/are used both in professional and fields.

Of course there's always room for disagreement but I hope the fields are 100 percent
synthetic as I have come to like them better
all things considered.

I'd love to hear more about any injury/infections that anyone has had or knows about
coming from the new synthetic surfaces.

In San Francisco, where I live,
The GAP donated 30 million dollars to change the ball playing parks around the city
to the new synthetic turf.
At today's prices I heard it costs around 3 million a field
so we're hoping
that will result in 10 all weather softball/soccer fields
that we can use
around the clock/year round
as these surfaces need the minimum of upkeep
to for safe and efficient use.
May 28, 2008
Hit the gap
Men's 60
143 posts
Hi Einstein. Some of the info that I gathered did appear to relate to the older turf. I think the sliding and turf toe parts still apply. Yes, I do know the Northwest boys and have played with and against many of them for years. I will be at Golden Eagle on Sat and will look you up and properly introduce myself. What team are you playing with?
May 28, 2008
Dbax
Men's 60
1267 posts
Guess it is entirely artificial. Check out.....

http://www.cityofsparks.us/living/parks/goldeneagle/pdfs/Golden_Eagle_Regional_Park.pdf

Hope nobody tries to slide!
May 28, 2008
DoubleL10
Men's 65
813 posts
Dbax, Thanks for the good pictures. The ones I saw elsewhere on this website did not clearly show that the infields are also synthetic. We, Boaz 60s, played on a Big League Dreams field in League City, TX that appear to be very similar to these. Made me feel two steps faster and i had some real "bounce" in my step. It was great playing infield there.

Hope to have a chance to meet all my fellow board members whom I have not yet met and see a few again - like Einstein - that I only get to see 2 or 3 times a year.

Best of luck to all and good health as well!
May 28, 2008
the wood
1078 posts
Joe:
I do not profess to be an expert on any type of turf. I will say though that my daughter played soccer in HS and their field (combo soccer and football) is turf and the kids really do enjoy playing on it. Their track is also turf.. I believe that the whole thing cost roughly $1.25 MM. All 5 high schools in their district have the same stuff... mostly funded with private donations.
Same stuff that you mentioned... lots of little rubber pebbles...
Wow! The Gap dropped $30 MM for playgrounds, etc... this is great to hear... at least they know on which side their bread has been buttered.
The kids used the same soccer shoes on the turf as they used on natural grass... aside from nastier abrasions, I am not aware of any higher incidence of injuries. They have only been using it for 2-3 years so perhaps there hasn't been enough time to establish any real injury trends... pro or con. The soccer ball moves faster on it than on grass and there were no holes for the players to step in. I do not recall any shin splints or the like. But I wasn't the trainer... just a specatator.
But even right after a rain the fields were ready to go. BTW, it was the heavy usage, not the weather, that motivated the change from grass to turf. We've been told that the long term financial impact is a savings over the constant maintenance of grass and dirt... resodding, reseeding, cutting, dragging, manicuring, watering, lining, etc.
BW
May 29, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
hey joe,from what i've read on the syn fields is there is an infection prol,like with sliding and such.you get the same burn as you get from basketball but a little worse.also heard they need to be cleaned(disinfected) every now and again.now for playing on them,you get nice bounces,but the ball will skip(like on wet grass)and take off.
so this is what they replaced don mello with.
good luck to all in reno,especailly boaz.
May 29, 2008
12AM#8
Men's 40
5 posts
Can someone post better directions for how to get to Golden Eagle Park from downtown Reno? All I have seen is take Vista past Wingfield Springs, but there is no info on how long it takes to get there from Downtown Reno or how many miles you drive on Vista Blvd (and what is Wingfield Springs)? Is that the best way to get there? Thanks!
May 30, 2008
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
609 posts
We have a turf field here, and my suggestions are to wear a good turf shoe, never slide into second, or you will end up in the outfield, when warming up the first time, bounce the ball off the field to each other to get a feel of it. The longer the turf, the more it slows up the ball, but in my experience once the ball hits the turf it bounces true but picks up speed. If they used an asphalt base, it will be much warmer than the surrounding ground. I recommend insoles on any shoe because, they are much harder to stand on besides being hotter. Have fun.
June 2, 2008
JJ
Men's 65
14 posts
Great place to play-wish all the fields we played on
were like this. Had guys sliding with no problems.
Did talk to some who said don't try it headfirst-you
stop on a dime!!

Played at San Rafael on Sat. and Sun.. makes you
appreciate the new fields even more!!! They should
have shut down this facility and kept the one off
Sparks at the 80!!!
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