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Discussion: Spirit of the rule or letter of the rule ?

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Aug. 11, 2008
local
169 posts
Spirit of the rule or letter of the rule ?
Rule 8.8 uniforms states no tank tops or sleeveless jerseys.
Last year in Phoenix I had a concern because I was wearing one these illegal shirts. Prior to the start of our first game I noitced half the players on the other team were in violation too. As we played other games it became obvious to me that this rule was not going to be enforced.

I don't understand the reason for the rule. It reminds me of Little League, which I loved, LL is great but way over regulated. As a coach at a LL State tournament one year my wife brought me a cup of water and I was warned by umpires not to have contact with people outside he dugout.

Senior Softball has a very good thing going right now don't ruin it !
Aug. 11, 2008
DMac
Men's 60
207 posts
A lot of cities do not allow guns in their parks. If you are built like me, the umps never enforce it.
Aug. 11, 2008
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
Just add this the the many rules in all sports and life that are never enforced.

My take on this is if the rules aren't going to be enforced then get rid of the rule.

Pitching rule is another one that is not enforced. Last tournament I was at one pitcher used almost a complete windmill delivery. There are a lot of pitchers pitching in tournaments that don't pitch legal according to the rules but I have never seen it called.
Aug. 11, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
Why would, or should, anyone play an actual game in a tank top? This isn't MLB, but at least look the part of a player.

The pitcher's job, along with winning, is to get away with as much as he can in the name of winning. It is the ump's to call him on things, and the opponents to point it out to the ump if he is not.
Aug. 11, 2008
local
169 posts
Dirty your right it isn't MLB. It's slowpitch, AKA, beer ball.

The rule doesn't address the issues of shorts. Can you wear blue jeans ? I have seen that in Phoenix. Can you wear daisy dukes ? Haven't seen that one yet.

I would like to know the reason for not wearing tank tops. Women are allowed to wear them. Could the reason be that exposing the arms of a player from the northwest would produce a blinding glare because of their pale skin ??? What is the legitimate reason for having this rule ?
Aug. 11, 2008
Corky
Men's 55
451 posts
We have sleevless jerseys with contrasting shirts underneath. If its too hot why not leave the under shirt off. Besides being cooler, it lets me show off my derringers lol....we got more important issues to overcome.
"Keep on Playin'
Aug. 11, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
I cannot comprehend having to look at a bunch of old guys saggy upper arms while I am playing.

Wanna wear a tank top, play basketball.
Aug. 11, 2008
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Lets go back to the shirts and skins days of old... & get the gals to wear pasties to make it really interesting...lol.
Rarely seen are teams out playing without uniforms or numbers on them. But it happens.
Perhaqps whom ever came up with the tank top thing had an aversion to seeing some guys hairy chest...lol
But the comment about rules not being enforced... yes, either enforce them or do away with it.
I know many guys that get a sleeved uniforn shirt, but cut the sleevs off, done for comfort.
I believe it's usually the under arm that sags more often.
Aug. 11, 2008
Lecak
Men's 60
1026 posts
Dirty who and where do play where your seeing Saggy arms that might explain alot about you. Me personally I'm 5'8 and go about a buck and quarter soaking wet, no arms would be a better description.
Aug. 11, 2008
softballer
Men's 65
594 posts
Does it really matter what shirt is WORN? it might get to over 100 degrees should we shut down the play cause it's to hot?
Aug. 11, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
I see guys who are not in the shape I am in. :)

They cut the sleeves off for "comfort"? So all professional, college, and high school baseball players are constantly uncomfortable.
Aug. 11, 2008
Rod Sweet
Men's 70
53 posts
Gentlemen, Webster's states: " Uniform, A distinctive outfit intended to identify those who wear it as members of a specfic group." (Team) Why would anyone question this rule, having a uniform is what it's all about, I agree that the rule should be looked at from each association and enforce it or change it. I would like to see all uniforms at regular sleeve length, no sleeveless.
Aug. 11, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
Rod, you are a wise man.
Aug. 11, 2008
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
Dirty: I agree it is the job of the pitcher to get away with as much as possible, but complaining to the ump doesn't do anything. None of them will call it.
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