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Discussion: Why we will never play ASA in Washington again.

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Aug. 17, 2008
local
120 posts
Why we will never play ASA in Washington again.
We played in a ASA tournament in Chehalis Wa. this weekend. During the Semi Final on Sunday we were playing a good team with " good guys" we are down a couple going into the 5th inning. The umpire yells out time limit last inning. Both teams looked at him and said what are you talking about. He went on to tell us time had expired.
When asked when the start time was he did not answer. In fact our game had been delayed by extra long quarter final game.I asked the home team score keeper what the start time was and he said the umpired did not give him one, There were only 4 teams left in the tournament. Nobody was waiting to get on the field. The tournament director sat under a tent and held on to 3 boxes of brand new balls, apparently he didn't want to use them because every ball hit out and every foul ball had to be retreived by the team that hit them. On Saturday one of the umpires sat on a bucket while calling a game. This tournament has been going down hill for several years. This year there were 9 teams playing. Next year I would be surprised if they got 2 teams to show. VERY VERY POOR !
Aug. 17, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
This sounds sadly like what a lot of us are experiencing
from many associations at many tournaments all over the country.
If we don't start up and say loudly, clearly and as often as necessary
what we want, need and expect to any and all those involved
who run and have influence over what we experience at our softball events
then we are as responsible as they all are
for contributing to the meaningful demise of OUR favorite pastime.

I haven't spoken with ONE Senior softball player:
- who likes or wants to
play without good balls and bats,
- who likes to play arbitrarily shortened games
- who wants their enjoyment/investment in softball
diminished by outside and/or self-seeking administrative concerns
- who wants those too far removed or self interested
in our sport to determine for us how to play or what equipment we
prefer to use when we play
yet,
we all seem to continue to experience these and other dissatisfying conditions
as we continue to play.
Sounds like something needs to be done.
Aug. 17, 2008
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
ASA has sucked for 10-15 years, especially in the north west. We would not even consider playing ASA.
Aug. 17, 2008
Joncon
285 posts
""""On Saturday one of the umpires sat on a bucket while calling a game.""""

PLEASE tell me someone got a picture of that !!
Aug. 18, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
hope thats not the case this coming weekend,as we are playing the 40+ ASsA worlds here in dallas.will let y'alls know how it turns out.
Aug. 18, 2008
local
120 posts
Mad Dog, I don't think it can be that bad. In Chehalis they only wanted your "SENIOR" money and gave nothing in return. We almost felt that it was an age discrimination thing ! I really don't thing they would treat other age divisions the same. Maybe they felt it was our afternoon nap time so they shorten the time limit.
Aug. 18, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
local, not saying it is right but could it be that the younger guys bring in more teams and more revenue?

Or that they whine less about bats, balls, and anything else they would want to whine about?
Aug. 18, 2008
replant
97 posts
Good points Dirty, you hit the nail on the head.
Aug. 18, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
I know if I was running a business I would take the path of least resistance, or least headaches.

I wouldn't need to be criticized for the bats, balls, fields, umps, water, weather, scheduling, and any and everything else.

Young guys around here, and when I was younger, just showed up and played.
Aug. 18, 2008
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
You should put a tournament together then, I'm certain I could get a team to come to your event from the West Coast. In all seriuosness not one your in one where you are the TD.
Aug. 18, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Might be a thought if I had access to fields for the weekend, which I don't.
Aug. 18, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
dirty's post
I know if I was running a business I would take the path of least resistance, or least headaches.

I wouldn't need to be criticized for the bats, balls, fields, umps, water, weather, scheduling, and any and everything else.

"Young guys around here, and when I was younger, just showed up and played."
my quote marks

ok dirty where are these tourney's and what assoc runs them.you are so quick to be crtical of things but offer no solutions.i guess you don't play b/c of your comment of not being able to get fields to be able to run your own tourney.if that is the case why are you posting on a softball board.
Aug. 18, 2008
Stretch14
Men's 50
180 posts
I agree with local. I was there at that tournment. The teams were fine. Umpires didn't have a clue. The only reason I went was because I love the game and my teammates are pretty cool to. Hey local, we missed everybody at the bar b que afterwards.
Aug. 18, 2008
local
120 posts
Stretch,

I should have gone to the weiner roast. We had the only dog at Yappy hours and it sucked. Great job of streching for those fly balls, you were impressive.!!!
Aug. 19, 2008
WOW
197 posts
No team I know of will play another ASA tourn.
Their rules SUCK!!!!!!!!!!
Aug. 23, 2008
Stretch14
Men's 50
180 posts
I played in tournments with the young guys in Chehalis and they whine more than the seniors. Can't use that excuse.
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