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Aug. 18, 2008
udaplaya
91 posts
Home plate
One of our players claims he was told by an umpire yesterday, on a play at the plate, that the base runner's body had beat the throw, but that he was required to touch the home plate "line" in order to be called safe. Either our player did not understand what the umpire said (which is possible) or we have interpreted the rule wrong this whole season, as we have always been under the impression that the base runner only need to break the plane of the home plate line when deciding whether he beat the throw.

If anyone is in the know, please help us out.

Thanks in advance.
Aug. 18, 2008
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
That is the way I understand it also. If you have to touch the line then we might as well go back to the second home plate.

I never like the line anyway. With the 2nd home plate there is always the chance the the runner coming in will miss it and could be called out for not touching the base same as any other base.
Aug. 18, 2008
sbsoftball
6 posts
The way I understand the rule for Line or Plate.
If there is a 2nd plate (safety plate) to be touched, then you must touch it!
If there is a line drawn then you must have a foot (ON THE GROUND) on the line or past the line before the catcher has the ball. NOT across the plane of the line or 2nd plate.
Aug. 18, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3922 posts
most always has been foot down on the ground to be safe,but have had the other called also(just breaking the plane).that is one reason we ask each plate ump before each game how he is calling it.i know its a pain,but have seen it called both ways in the same tourney.
Aug. 18, 2008
SSUSA Staff
1010 posts
This circumstance is discussed at Section 8.8(1) of the Official SSUSA Rule Book on pages 63-64 -

8.8(1) NON-FORCE SITUATION

A base runner may be retired at Home Plate in a non-force situation. The defensive player must have possession of the ball while touching Home Plate after the runner has passed the Commitment Line, but does not yet have a foot down on or over the Scoring Plate (Scoring Line).

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Note: "..touching Home Plate..." includes the overlay Strike Mat. Simply, the runner is safe only if he/she has a foot "down" on or over the line before the defensive player has possession of the ball. Breaking the plane of the scoring line is NOT the out/safe criteria, any more than in the case of a runner who's foot is directly above, but not yet touching the bag on a play at 1st base. Hope this helps.
Aug. 18, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3922 posts
thanks staff.
Aug. 18, 2008
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2586 posts
I was watching a game between Spicer's and Va Vending on Saturday and noticed one of Va V's players step over home. I was wondering about breaking the plane or needing to touch home.
Thanks Staff for clearing that up. Should I assume that all associations agree on this? Maybe I should check.
Va Vending, you should cover this with your players.
Aug. 18, 2008
udaplaya
91 posts
Thanks for the various feedback and the clarification by the SSUSA Staff ( this is one of the benefits of having this message board).

Another reason our coaching staff should all have the rulebooks with us at all times.

Thanks again.
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