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Discussion: intentional walks

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Sept. 28, 2008
red
28 posts
intentional walks
Are there any situations when you can't intentional walk a hitter?
Sept. 28, 2008
DesertGuy
Men's 60
224 posts
No
Sept. 28, 2008
THE HI-JACKER
118 posts
RED: It depends. If, one walks a batter in order to get an automatic out, the next batter that would be the automic out, Intentional or not, will NOT be an automic out.

Only case? T H-J
Sept. 28, 2008
Dbax
Men's 65
2100 posts
Huh?
Sept. 28, 2008
letsplay2
Men's 55
5 posts
I think THJ is talking about when a player is ejected or injured and there isn't a sub available, then the next time that spot in the order comes up to bat it's an out. If you intentionally walk someone to get to that spot in the order, it's no longer an out.
Sept. 29, 2008
Dbax
Men's 65
2100 posts
But that wasn't the question. No, would be the correct answer.
Sept. 29, 2008
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Sure,

Bases loaded, winning run on third!!!!!!!!

Ha, Ha..


Brian
Sept. 29, 2008
mad dog
Men's 65
4191 posts
with smokey on this one,other wise it perfectly legal to walk any one any time.

in the other stiuation above,your not allowed to get the 3rd out of an inning by walking the batter before the out,ya gotta pitch to someone.most of the time in senior ball tho,u only take the out first time thru the order,some assoc still make it an out the whole game.
Sept. 29, 2008
SSUSA Staff
3485 posts
DesertGuy and Dbax are correct. The defensive team may intentionally walk a batter at any time, with one very limited exception as to timing only. If the defensive team intends to walk two consecutive batters, the second batter may not be walked until the first batter has reached first base (SSUSA Rule Book section 8.1B on page 54).

The Hi-Jacker and mad dog are not correct in their fact hypothetical under SSUSA Rules of Play. Several years ago in a World Championship final game, Home team had the tying run on third base with two outs in the bottom of the seventh inning. The runner on third base was a courtesy runner due to bat third from that moment. The Visiting team intentionally walked the next two batters, forcing the courtesy runner's spot in the batting order. The courtesy runner was required to vacate third base to take his proper turn at bat, and the third and final out of the game occurred at that moment. This was an excellent example of alert managing by the Visiting team.

Smokey20 is also incorrect by the rule book. Although intentionally walking in the winning run in the bottom of the seventh is not a prudent managerial decision, it is technically permissable.

The answert to red's question is "No".

Hope this helps.
Sept. 29, 2008
red
28 posts
thanks for the input. This came up in a day league game. They had a big hitter and they had runners on 1st and 2nd and we walked him and he starts bitching that we can't walk someone when someone is already on first. Ump ruled that we could walk him but they complained the rest of the game which we won 7-4, I think they we not used to losing.
Sept. 29, 2008
red
28 posts
You could walk in the winning run if there were some runs scored rule that would make a differance in seeding. You pitch to someone and they could hit a grandslam scoring 4 run verse walking in 1 run. Could happen but not likely.
Sept. 29, 2008
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
The only place that I have run into the rule "can't walk the batter to get to the 3rd out" is in league play. It is written up in league rules (those that have nothing to do with state, national, and regional rules). Of course in leagues, here you can play with 8; so this rule could make or break a game when a team is short.
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