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Discussion: Any unbelievable, spectacular, unusual or funny plays or calls to share?

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Oct. 22, 2008
Hacker
Men's 65
41 posts
Any unbelievable, spectacular, unusual or funny plays or calls to share?
With all the games going on this past weekend in Phoenix, did anyone hear about or see any spectacular or unusual plays, like a triple-play or an infield HR or funny senior moment incident, including unusual umpire calls?

I'd like to hear a few!

Nothing for me to report except a player being called out for stepping out of the box while hitting a foul ball...haven't seen that call in a while, but it's not too to uncommon...
Oct. 22, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3929 posts
not in phx,but in st george at the huntsman games, had a runner almost break an ankle sliding into 2b(foot dug in the dirt about 3 ft short of the base),he never reached the base and was called safe.same ump called some strikes that were 4-6" short of the mat,and then copped an atittude when called on it.
Oct. 22, 2008
BONES
Men's 60
93 posts
phoenix---desert west--------not sure if i got this completely right----but ill give you the drift of the conversation i had with i believe his name was Dennis---Pitcher for ROBSON not sure number of men on base---but their was a over throw at 1st base ----ball hit the robson dugout screen and bounced off----man scored on over throw---but i believe umpire sent man back to 3rd due to ROBSON had to many men out of the dugout--- the ball never hit anybody standing their but ----that was the call-----------dont believe i've ever seen that called b/4-------anyway i think that is correct maybe someone else can verify. i'd also like to sendcongrats to the ROBSON team FOR WINNING 60S AAAand WISH YOU WELL IN THE MAJOR DIV. NEXT YEAR AND also to are good friends and So. Cal rivaly------BRICKERTON----all i can say is you guys must of played your hearts out on Sunday---very very good job-------
SB #32 So Cal Gusto 60s
Oct. 22, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3929 posts
bones i have seen that one called before,not in senior but when playing with the kids.ump said i couldn't tell if any of your guys touch it,guess u all should have stayed in your dugout like i asked ya's at the beginning of the game.
Oct. 23, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Oh no, not more whining about the umps. :(
Oct. 23, 2008
VegasPaul
Men's 60
30 posts
This happened in a senior recreation league last week where I was coaching a team. The umpire was a novice but neutral. Bases loaded, no out and batter hits grounder to short. Ball is fielded and thrown to second with runner on second staying on the bag. Second basemen receives throw from short and touches second base and throws home wild to get the runner from third out at home. Umpire called runner from first going to second out. Runner from first that was called out started to retreat towards dugout but the coach said to return to second. Runner from third scored and Catcher retrieved wild throw from second and threw back to second to get the retired runner returning to second. Second baseman gets throw before retired runner reaches second and starts to run down the previously called out runner who is now retreating back to first. At this time the runner at second advances to third and scores. The retired runner was tagged out again. Umpire ruled one out, two runs scored and runner on first.

If I was umpire I would have called interference by the retired runner who deceived the defensive team from making a play (getting the original runner from second out at home). Interference would have resulted in “dead ball” and someone is out. In this case the second out is runner closest to home.
I would welcome other umpire opinions.
VegasPaul
Oct. 23, 2008
4Four4
Men's 60
82 posts
Triple play turned in finals of winners bracket in Vegas 55AAs. Men on 1&2nd, ground ball to 2nd baseman, Eddie throws to Joe(SS) covering who throws to Denny (1st) just expecting to turn a DP but the guy on second hesitates going to 3rs long enough for the 1st to 3rd(Rico) throw to get him by a step. Fun to watch from left field.
Oct. 23, 2008
huff17
13 posts
Two years ago in the worlds in Seattle our best hitter Rick grounds out to start the inning (one out), Next guy gets on with a single and Rick runs for him and is forced at second (two outs), one hitter later with runners on first and second he decides to run again - which is of course illegal, steps on first - umpire calls him out (three outs) - thus with only four batters up in one inning one guy (Rick) made 3 outs in one inning - very hard to do
Oct. 23, 2008
Joncon
289 posts
This wasn't this year but worth a mention.


Umpire was new to senior ball.

Play at the plate....ump is standing behind the box,. up the 3B line. He steps back to "get out of the way"....., sets a perfect pick and knocks down the runner before he touches the plate.

Runner is out. :)


Last year, coach makes the tourney ending out by allegedly stepping on the plate while batting.
Oct. 23, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
"allegedly"??? Why must we still whine about umps a year later?

Seriously, can you swear that you were watching his feet and saw exactly where he stepped? And one play does not beat a team.
Oct. 23, 2008
Mac21
Men's 65
35 posts
How about 3 in the same game. These took place in Phoenix this past weekend. It took 2 hours to play the game due to all the delays caused by the following plays.

1. Runner on 1st, ground ball to our shortstop he flips to second, on to first..double play. Next batter hits another ground ball to our shortstop, he's about to throw to first, but there's a runner going to second so instead he flips the ball to second for the force, ump calls him out. We're leaving the field and the other team starts screaming "hey there can't be a force at second they just turned a double play". Turns out the runner forced out at second on the double play thought the batter was safe and took the bag to run for him unnoticed by anyone. After the other team protested and much discussion, the director ruled it stood as an out.

2. First and third 2 outs, our batter hits a single and carries the bat to first. The ump calls the batter out for carrying the bat to the bag. We protest...the ruling is the umpire is correct, runner out, end of inning, end of rally. Next morning we find out the ruling was WRONG..batter should not have been called out. In SS-USA rules, carrying the bat to first is not an out unless it interferes with the play or injures a player.

3. Ground ball through our pitchers legs, umpire calls batter out because in his judgement the ball nicked our pitcher on the leg. The other team complained that it didn't hit him and get this, after some discussion the umpire asked our pitcher if it hit him. Unfortunately, instead of saying "you made the call" our pitcher said "I don't think it nicked me". Here's the kicker...the umpire reversed his call, and gave the other team a "do over". We now complained how can you have a "do over" but the umpire wouldn't budge. We should have protested the game at that point but we didn't..our mistake. How can you reverse a judgement call by asking a player involved in the play? That's like asking a first baseman "were you off the bag", or a runner "did the shortstop tag you" etc etc.

Please DIRTY, no comments about complaining about the umpiring...I'm just relating the facts
Oct. 24, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
I understand that umps make mistakes, but in general not nearly as many as the players do.
Oct. 24, 2008
Paco13
364 posts
Huff,

That is a good one three outs in one inning...how many cases is that?
Oct. 24, 2008
DMac
Men's 60
185 posts
I've always been proud of having been thrown out at all four bases in the same game (on two occasions), but three times in the same inning? I am in complete awe of this guy Rick.
Oct. 24, 2008
Joncon
289 posts
""Seriously, can you swear that you were watching his feet and saw exactly where he stepped?""

Don't be a douche.

I didn't see the play, that's why I said allegedly. If I SAW the play, I would have said he did or did not step on the plate.

Capice?



The runner satying on 1B was classic softball. I stayed on 2B one time and SCORED on the next hit. :)



This morning, 50AA's.....bases loaded, one hopper back to pitcher. Batter falls down coming out of the box. He get up and heads to first just in time to intercept the ball (from the pitcher to home) with his head and he goes into the dirt AGAIN.

The ball is rolling around, a run scores, runners advance, batter gets forced at 1B. No old guys were injured.
Oct. 24, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Who alleged it? The batter? An "unbiased" teammate?

Obviously you believe he did not or you wouldn't still be moaning about it. On what are you basing this allegation?
Oct. 25, 2008
Joncon
289 posts
Reading comprehention 101.


I alleged it.

I didn't see it so I couldn't say with certainty whether he stepped on it or not.


Moaning? Whining? The post was made in good humor. I can't see where I was whining or complaining. I was simply telling a story.

What make you so argumentative dude? Your style is to jump all over schit and battle to the death. Relax and enjoy life. You only have about 20 years LEFT.

Find your happy place and go there :)


Here is another story/rules question from this weekend.

Player A subs for player B.

A few innings later, player A is courtesy running when player B re enters.

Q: Can player A and B both be "in the game" at the same time?

There was a bit of confusion and ultimately didn't matter as player A scored JUST before player B came to the plate.

In retrospect, I think that once player B re enters, player A is out and can run and it was a non issue.

We didn't want to question the ump and tip off the other team if is could be an issue. They could have intentionally walked a batter to force the situation for the 3rd out if applicable.
Oct. 25, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Illogic 101.

How do you allege ANYTHING you admittedly did NOT see? You do realize even an allegation needs some basis. A real basis. A factual, first-hand one would be nice.
Oct. 25, 2008
Joncon
289 posts
Try to follow along.

The player alledgedly touched the plate.

Alleged = asserted to be true

I used the term because I did not see the players foot. Just bacause the ump said it touched doesn't mean it did.

And...for the second or third time....I never complained about it. It just seemed to relate to the topic.

Sheesh. No wonder no one wants to play with you :)
Oct. 26, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
"Just because the ump said it touched doesn't mean it did."

Sure it does. :)
Oct. 26, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3929 posts
joncon on the -softballfans- softball board they have an ignore option,don't you wish they had that here.that way we don't have to see dumb and dumber posts.
Oct. 26, 2008
Joncon
289 posts
I don't mind a little smack talk.

I have an ignore function built into my brain. Eventually I will give up and put it into play.

I got a smiley face out of him. I consider that a victory :)
Oct. 26, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
joncon, we are okay. Sadly, the dog must live life with a stick up his ***. :(
Oct. 27, 2008
mad dog
Men's 60
3929 posts
ignore option,dumb and dumber post
Oct. 27, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
How can you be ignoring me when you keep responding?

Make up your mind, you are like a chick. LOL
Oct. 27, 2008
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
One umpire. Grayhounds vs NCI

Field crew had the fair/foul line drawn wrong, the line at 3rd base actually went about 4 inches into the bag.

I hit a shot down 3rd baseline, ball hit the bag on the backside and ent into deadball territory, half way to left field fence. Umpire admitted the ball hit the bag, but said it was outside the line, which it was.

Bottomline line foulball 1 strike. Teammate and coach almost got tossed for arguing too much. Call was wrong but once they got the umpire fired up, he was not going to change his mind. Went back to the box and got a single, I probably would have been more animated if it had been the third strike.

Same umpire for 3 more games, called a very good game except for the one screwy play. Play long enough and you see everything.
Oct. 27, 2008
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
One more thing, next morning playing the same team. TD had the field crew go out and redraw the line correctly. Heard the field crew director say, I do not care where the plugs are, line has got to go outside the bag.
Oct. 27, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Next time try to notice and correct the line placement before the game. I am assuming it was pretty obvious from the start.
Oct. 27, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Actually it does not go "outside" but rather under the foul-side edge.
Oct. 27, 2008
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Softball4B, Sunday morning for our 8:00 game the line was back over the bag, lol. We mentioned it to the ump and he said he would work around it. Congrats on the title.
Oct. 27, 2008
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
Thanks, overall this tourney was a very competitive event. There were no gimme games at any point in the tourney. Our team played very well and responded positively to some internal issues. Without Donnie and our group laugh, we could have folded, but instead we focused our energy in the direction of our opponents.
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