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| Oct. 29, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Clarification I am not at all against special bats. I admit I don't understand why they are needed for Seniors, or whose idea is originally was to make Seniors appear needy, but if they are legal that is fine with me. I just hate to see the game changed, and special rules put in, because they are part of the game. We all grew up with the game a certain way, and now there are many current and proposed rule changes just to accommodate them. I just see too much hypocrisy here. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 replant 97 posts | I agree with ya on a lot of things. But you're starting to sound like you were born yesterday. Accommocation to change is called LIFE! |
| Oct. 29, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Sure things change. But now we have to put screens in the middle of the infield and make the field look like a miniature golf course to accommodate guys who need, and apparently cannot, hit homers without speical bats? We need pitcher protection rules? We don't need either of those. IF safety is an issue, get rid of special bats and treat seniors like any other players of this simple game. If safety is not, then no need for new rules at all. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 Gekle BUilders Men's 50 204 posts | Dirty, I think the problem could be resolved with a less explosive ball.The cost to SSUSA,players,and bat companies to ban a bunch of bats is not practcal.A lesser ball would help to keep them in the park,and change the velousity coming off the bat.I would like to see a little more defese in games and less standing around by outfielders.Of coarse you won"t see much defense out of our team we suck but we can hit it. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 replant 97 posts | We both know safety IS the issue. That doesn't mean we can't accommodate change. There many Senior Tourneys and leagues that outlaw the Ultra ll. I would advise you go to those. Since there are choices, I don't see your point. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 replant 97 posts | I have to add: I use an Ultra and an ASA bat ,depends on the rule. I prefer the ASA, also because of the defense. It is a lot more fun and a better workout. I can hit em out with the ASA but not as often. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 Gekle BUilders Men's 50 204 posts | We play all sanctions,ASA,ISA,ISF,USSSA,SSUSA,HUNTSMAN,SPA we use what ever is allowed.It's not our pitcher i'm concerned about.By playing all the different sanctions you see the game chage from week end to week end and all that has really changed is the bats and balls.We enjoy it either way.I think the Summit is aware of the issues and i'm sure they will do what ever it takes to keep the GAME enjoyable and SAFE. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Gekle, that makes sense. IF exit speed is a problem, and again I am not sure it is but some say that safety is an issue, controlling the ball certainly would help. replant, you are not seeing much today. And my point could not be any clearer. Again, I just hate to see things being stuck in the middle of the diamond that will get in the way of all kinds of throws. Or a batter being penalized and the pitcher rewarded for the pitcher not being willing and/or able to field his position. |
| Oct. 29, 2008 jolly52 Men's 60 53 posts | Dirty, I agree with some of your comments but change is always needed for improvement in any sport be it equipment or workouts and no one will ever get it perfect... "All" bats have the potential for injury, a hit ball, thrown bat and those bats left on the playing field... Should we outlaw them all and maybe just throw the ball?? but wait theres a risk there to... hmmm maybe just kick it... no theres risk there to...Then theres the ball, not to mention the field and other equipment.... and the list goes on... Sports are a risk to play and I know you know that... Senior bats are here to stay and I find them a little more forgiving than my other bats but being a line drive hitter I can smoke them thru the infield as fast as with the senior bats. I go out and you must to and play as hard as I can and use the euipment that is the best and whats legal at the time... every true athelete always looks for an edge, be it shoes, bats working out specific muscles or whatever... |
| Oct. 29, 2008 softballer Men's 65 594 posts | most of the BIG hitter could hurt a pitch with most asa bats! so don't just think it's the u-II! |
| Oct. 30, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | I am sure it isn't just the bats, but why do seniors need special bats? |
| Oct. 30, 2008 #19 Men's 70 302 posts | Dirty... You have said it before... Senior bats make home run hitters out of non-home run hitters... It serves to make us feel better about our athletic abilities... It's kind of like using a Viagra-bat... #19 |
| Oct. 30, 2008 tattooball 774 posts | The fact is there is a ball that is much safer and will bring defense back to the game, but it is being looked at for play in the lower age groups. Now that Gekel brought up this point about the ball I am sure the opposition will explode with it's infinite wisdom at any moment. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 Norq44 59 posts | Kevin, Where can I get some of these new balls. I would like to take them out to our bi-weekly hitting practices here in Jacksonville. Don Norquist P.S. I love the new bat. I have already quit hitting it in practice. Saving it for the weekends. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 replant 97 posts | Dirty: you seem to think you are the only one that thinks clearly on this site. If only you could see your comments thru our eyes. They turn into rehashed pointless drivel. You do have the freedom to bait everybody with your pointless drivel. I know ya catch a lot of fish. But, it does get old. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Some of you guys haven't figured out yet that Dirty/Gary19/Gary Sommers is putting all of us on all of the time. This is great fun for him. He loves getting to and getting under people's skin. That's all he's about. That's why he doesn't belong on this or any other board. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 Ken Men's 55 462 posts | I really enjoy the back and forth discussion that we have on this board. A healthy difference of opinion is good, and an even greater read. But, Einstein and Replant are right; he only wants to get under people’s skin. Someone will say one thing and he will come back with his belittling style, just to get a rise out of him. It has to end. Gary, enough is enough. I know you will come back on this and ask me to “define” something, but for your own sanity, get some help. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | joe,ken,replant, i think has something do with this timing thing that he talks about ,but he keeps to it himself.i for one wish he would tell us about this timing thing of his so we can be better people and ballplayers. |
| Oct. 30, 2008 DesertDave Men's 60 74 posts | I'm looking forward to the tutorial on proper timing of the slow pitch softball swing. Can't wait to be able to hit 1.000 either. |
| Oct. 31, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Dave, are you often late or early on the pitch? |
| Oct. 31, 2008 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | guess he means when do you get to the park dave,early or right at game time(oops there we go again timing) |
| Oct. 31, 2008 hitt2 353 posts | Dirty Here’s something for you to process. These are the dictionary’s definition as to timing and mechanic. Maddog, Softballer, Hi-jacker, Taits, 4x4, let’s see how he denies these facts. 1.Sports. The control of the speed of a stroke, blow, etc., in order that it may reach its maximum at the proper moment. 2.The selecting of the best time or speed for doing something in order to achieve the desired or maximum result: I worked on my timing to increase the distance of the hit ball. 3.An act or instance of observing and recording the elapsed time of an act, contest, process, etc. Applied mechanics, the principles of abstract mechanics applied to human art; also, the practical application of the laws of matter and motion to the construction of machines and structures of all kinds. Motion: The ability or power to move mo•tion (mô'shən) 1.The act or process of changing position or place. 2.The manner in which the body or a body part moves. Consistent effort requires timing. Learning to perform a task is mecahnic. |
| Oct. 31, 2008 Paco13 424 posts | I wonder the age of some of you guys. Old men acting like children. WOW. |
| Oct. 31, 2008 replant 97 posts | Who wants to act like old men? We"ll have plenty of time for that later. |
| Oct. 31, 2008 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | ok hitt2,but i'm still not sure.:):):) |
| Nov. 3, 2008 Paco13 424 posts | Mr. Executive, I believe that you are wrong by banning Gary 19; I thought that his comments were amusing and entertaining. Never took it anything personal, so are you going to ban him from playing ball also...words specially over a message board are insignificant...for you guys that know him and play against him, what kind of person is he, does he poses that much of a threat to your fragile psychic...I am done. Wrong decision. |
| Nov. 3, 2008 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | if you like anything you post mucked up then go ahead and start your own board and you 2 can post back and forth.he has been banned from a couple of diff boards b/c he can't bring a civil post to it(he actually posted on SBF well if the guy had fielded his position he wouldn't of got hurt,on someone who had been seriously injured and the poster was only asking for prayers for the guy).i have asked why he can't do that and no answer from him.he has a broken record response of"IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT AT 20 WHY SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO IT AS A SENIOR".so glad to see him go. |
| Nov. 3, 2008 DesertGuy Men's 60 224 posts | Hey guys- Take a look at the top of this message thread. It was started by Dirty Gary. You are the fools that decided to post on his thread. You have no one to blame here except yourselves. If you don't like it, don't perpetuate the thread. Pretty simple really. |
| Nov. 3, 2008 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Go to where? |
| Nov. 3, 2008 DesertDave Men's 60 74 posts | When Garys TIMING improves, he'll know where to go !!!!!! |
