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Discussion: Ratings Changes Announcement Timeline

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Jan. 27, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Ratings Changes Announcement Timeline
Many teams are in the process of finalizing, or have already, their 2009 tournament schedules. The outcome of ratings decisions may have a significant impact on which tournaments a team chooses to schedule. It would be in the best interests of everyone if the decisions were made by the end of this month as was previously published.
Jan. 27, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Brett I would be curious why would this significantly impact your schedule especially if the new rating carries across all or most organizations. I would be suprised if SPA or LVSSA for example did not honor or carry forward the new ratings to the teams that get rerated.
Jan. 27, 2009
SSUSA Staff
1302 posts
Terry Hennessy is currently out of the country on SSUSA business arranged at the last moment in Havana, Cuba. He will be returning on February 3rd and will resume the re-ratings process with the National Ratings Committee at that time. The resulting announcements are anticipated to be made by the middle of February.
Jan. 27, 2009
THECAT
59 posts
I beg to differ with LVSSA comment by Lecak. The LVSSA has a little more thought in noticing teams that play in their own tourneys. Their TD will change a team who is MJ into AAA of AAA into AA of vise versa in both with recomendation of managers who consistanly play in their tourneys. They do police their tourney and notify teams in the division of the changes so there are no suprises at time of play.
Jan. 27, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Lecak, why would a team want to go to a tournament where there was no one in their division to play or perhaps only 1 or 2 other teams.....or to a tournament where they would not allow your team to participate because of a rating??? If a team were bumped up, they would most likely have to significantly change their schedule. There are not as many options in the midwest as there are on the east or west coast. Unsponsored teams can't afford to fly all over the country to play as often as they would prefer. We have to carefully pick and choose where we can get the best bang for the buck.
Jan. 27, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Brett thanks I remember you guys from Phoenix, can I assume that as a major team you would be allowed to enter AAA dominated tournies but if you guys get bumped that is where the TD's would draw the line?
Jan. 27, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
In some cases yes. We want to play against the best competition we can find (preferrably in our division), but there are only so many teams in the Midwest.
Jan. 27, 2009
brian warner
Men's 55
53 posts
Brett what does matter? You guys are a bunch of sanbaggers anyway.
Jan. 27, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Hi Brian. Be careful what you post here.....someone may actually believe you.
Jan. 27, 2009
Walk
192 posts
I know I said I would not post anymore but I cannot pass this one up. Brain how can you say the Barons are sandbaggers when they allow a 60 year old with two replacement knees to play?
Brain I know you were kidding but I thought I would throw that out there so those in charge would think about what they are doing before they consider a bump.
Jan. 27, 2009
softball4b
Men's 60
765 posts
Walk, check your email.
Jan. 27, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
Bruce, Hope you're doing well. I know you've been conspicuous by your absence on this board. Maybe we'll see you our the tourney trail this year. LL
Jan. 28, 2009
Walk
192 posts
Mike that is very interesting and not a bad idea. I just hope a team does not get moved up based on only one player. But the idea is not bad.

Larry only time will tell how much I can play. If I had to play today it would not be happening. The doc says it will be as good as new and I believe him but since he had to cut out so much extra bone it will take some time. Hope to see you also.
Jan. 28, 2009
tattooball
621 posts
Bruce you are even more dangerous, now you have a double load of ti.
Jan. 28, 2009
brian warner
Men's 55
53 posts
Brett you guys sound a little to worried to me. And why wouldn't you want to move up with these stupid homerun rules. We won't be playing ssusa with these stupid rules. We are going in a different direction. And to the powers that be. I was only kidding.
Jan. 29, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Brian, having tournaments that we can participate in is our foremost concern.
Jan. 29, 2009
cpope
Men's 60
160 posts
How's the knees come BW? Maybe I will see you around this year.
Mongo still around? :)
Jan. 29, 2009
Walk
192 posts
Kevin I hope you are right. I tooks some living room swings at the 6 week mark and it was not good.

Charlie, Mongo had to go. He was not PC. The left one is great but the right is way behind. I was also told it may be time for me to retire from working so we have begun the paper work. It will be nice to be off all the timebut I will miss chase. If things go well maybe we will see you in GA.
Jan. 29, 2009
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
otay walk,no more mongo :):) well i guess u have had the second knee done now from what i'm reading.hope u heal good so we can see ya playing again.brian i'm with ya about the ss-usa tourney's,i'm not a fan of any of the new rules(hr's or pitcher dbo,aka pitcher protection).being from texas tho,we have a lot of SPA tourney's to go to.
Jan. 29, 2009
Walk
192 posts
Yes Bob I did have it done on Dec 15. It was nasty and I needed it done. I hope to be playing soon.

I know that here in KC we don't have very many options so I can see us playing all associations and the SSUSA being the worst. I can tell the Staff at SSUSA this there sample base for the over the fence homerun outs is flawed not only by the number of teams at the tournament they used but at the time it was held. I would bet my house that if each tournament was sampled and reported correctly the number will become much higher.

Many of the midwest teams will hit just as many homeruns outs per game as they do homeruns and it does not have anything to do with bat control. Weather condition here will be the main problem. Unlike the west coast we deal with major wind on a daily bases. Add the dead ball out to the mix and the game is no fun anymore.

We will sour very fast of these rules. While that is not a great concern of the SSUSA because our numbers are small I would bet it will be a plus for at least two other associations. Maybe that is what is needed to even things out.

I would submit that none of these rules would be necessary if we just went to Kevin's new ball. The game would be played the way it use to be. I know that is not a popular thought but if we don't what is next ground balls and linedrives at the third and firstbasemen being called DBO? Safety concerns will rule the day rather we like it or not.
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