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Discussion: Home Runs

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Feb. 14, 2009
jball15
7 posts
Home Runs
Our team has no problem with the 5 home run rule for 50+ Major but don't make the other balls hit out of the park outs. Seems like the older we get the more you want to restrict what ability we have left. You are taking the bats out of our hands and not letting us swing away. Not having to change your swing was the most appealing thing about senior softball and now you want us to go back to when we played in our younger days. SSUSA will lose alot of teams to tournaments because of this rule. We will play a few but not as many as we would have.
Feb. 14, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Not trying to be a wise guy if you guys get bumped to M+ and get the 10HR's does that change the dynamics?
Feb. 14, 2009
jball15
7 posts
No we are a true Major team. We will hit our 5 most of the time and maybe a few more but we don't have enough power to be Major+. I think we could compete but we probably would not win that many.
Feb. 15, 2009
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
If hitting 5 or more per game makes you a true major team, how many should a AAA team hit? And how many per game would make you a major + team? This isnít meant to be a wise-ass comment, I really want to know what you think the different levels should be hitting. And if a major team doesnít hit 5 or more per game, are they really a major team, or what if they donít even hit any? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Feb. 15, 2009
turn2
484 posts
We are a 60 major plus team and we only hit about 3-4 per game if that many. So does this make us a major or aaa team? If you hit more home runs than allowed maybe you need to move up to the next division or get rid of the home run hitters.
Do you want to hit home runs or win ball games. Everyone needs to quit whining and step up and play the best competition out there instead of playing down all the time.
my 2 cents
Donnie
Turn Two/ Rock Solid/ Elite
60 Major Plus
Feb. 15, 2009
jball15
7 posts
Guys all we want is for the extra balls hit out of the park not to be outs. If you hit 2 or 3 extra doesn't make you good enough to move up a division. If that's what they want us to do we will but it isn't really fair to us since we've only played major 2 years. I know we hit to many to play AAA and that's why we moved up. But we are not a MAJOR+ team.
Feb. 15, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4316 posts
Reading this, I'd think the 50's M+ should have another team to compete against.

Feb. 15, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4316 posts
jball15,
I doubt you'll find many that actually like the out.
I sure don't and have mad a few of those.
Feb. 15, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Turn2 my team is currently 50 M+ and we have hit 30 HR's in 10 games this year. Jball don't know your team but my team was a combo of Evolution and the Arizona MOB with some new seniors we have dragged along for the M+ ride. I don't know your team because you haven't identified it but if in your judgement your team is competitive then you should be M+. Not fair to the major teams who you're playing against. Jball 2 years is half the life cycle for a 50+ team the time to play Major plus in my opinion is when your on the lower end of the age bracket.
Feb. 15, 2009
jball15
7 posts
No I don't like the out and they say they want to protect the pitcher. I can't hit up the middle and would not if I could but there is a great deal of guys that will. I just think there is another solution. SPA did not change the rules. They took a survey and stuck with what everbody wanted.
Feb. 15, 2009
jball15
7 posts
We are the old Arkansas Children's Hospital team and most of us are 55+. We can't find enough to field a 55+ team so I think playing 50+ Major is about where we belong. We may hit 5 home runs in a game or we may hit 1. We finished 2nd in SPA 50+ AAA in McKinney, TX 3 years ago and was moved up to Major. The first year in Major we finished 3rd in Kansas City. We haven't done much since then so I hope you can see where we stand.
Feb. 15, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Jball understood. Huge advantage sometimes in the big population centers like CA, TX, FL etc. Do your thing good luck sounds like your where you need to be. How about this you would be M+ material in 55 LOL.
Feb. 15, 2009
turn2
484 posts
Guys, I am saying if you do not want the home runs to be an out move up or get rid of the home run hitters. In major plus we never have to worry about hitting too many out.
Donnie
Turn Two/Rock Solid/Elite
60 Major Plus
Feb. 15, 2009
jball15
7 posts
We are the old Arkansas Children's Hospital team and most of us are 55+. We can't find enough to field a 55+ team so I think playing 50+ Major is about where we belong. We may hit 5 home runs in a game or we may hit 1. We finished 2nd in SPA 50+ AAA in McKinney, TX 3 years ago and was moved up to Major. The first year in Major we finished 3rd in Kansas City. We haven't done much since then so I hope you can see where we stand.
Feb. 15, 2009
jball15
7 posts
If we had about 4 more 55+ we could probably compete on a high level in 55+ Major+. Hope we can do this next year and you won't here anything else from me.
Feb. 15, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Donnie,
Say hi to Butch, Andy, Clatter and Mike for me.
Listen, not to bust your bubble
but if you look at the "new" rules
for 2009 you'll see that in 60 major plus
there are only 6 home runs allowed
and after the 6 then they will be outs.
You know as well as I that this will limit all AB's and Big Swingers right from the beginning.
So guys like Clatta and your other big hitters
will be swinging down and hard
to avoid using them up
which changes the offensive strategy
of our game dramatically from last year.
Feb. 15, 2009
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
We can have 25 homeruns per game in the Major-plus division, it doesn't matter at this point. The bottom line at least at the moment is there are no major-plus teams (ok, 4) to play on the West Coast at the 50+ level. Just combine major and major-plus. When a major-plus team plays a major team they can only hit 5.
Feb. 15, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
But that would make all the major plus
big, big hitters hit the ball down and hard
through the infielders, including the pitcher.
This is a huge mistake and can change the swings
of the big guys which can mess with them, too.
I favor major and major plus together with no home run restriction
Just an equalizer at 1 home run with singles/walk after the limit is reached
like we do in NorCal.
Major and major plus should be combined
and it can be done easily ensuring competitiveness
for all teams involved.

Feb. 15, 2009
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
That's good too! Let's go play NCSSA.
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