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Discussion: Pitcher Protect - LARGE GLOVE

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Feb. 16, 2009
4Four4
Men's 60
83 posts
Pitcher Protect - LARGE GLOVE
Is there a rule that dictates the size and shape of a fielder's glove? Does it prevent a pitcher (or 3B) from wearing any size or shape they choose.
Some may wish to go to the large scoop or oversized OF gloves now available.
DH
#4 The Tub
Feb. 16, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2691 posts
Last year ASA approved the use of a first baseman't mitt for use by the pitcher, maybe for all positions, I don't remember.
Most associations only approve up to a 14 inch glove. A few years ago SPA approved any size glove, as long as it was mass produced. They changed that rule two or three years ago, only approving up to a 14 inch glove.
To be certain, check the rules of the association that you play.
Feb. 16, 2009
4Four4
Men's 60
83 posts
Bruce - Thanks. I have seen many larger than 14" mitts used in Major&AAA play. The rule - if any - is loosely policed and thats OK with me. I don't know how guys needing a quick response use them but if they provide additional safety I think they should be allowed.
Feb. 16, 2009
curveball
Men's 65
404 posts
The ASA rulebook is quite specific about legal glove dimensions. 14" is max, but they even list legal length of specific fingers and web size. I'm assuming we (SSUSA)are following those ASA rules.
Feb. 16, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2691 posts
I agree with the safety part of this. Associations should allow almost anything for safety's sake, except no screens.
Feb. 16, 2009
SSUSA Staff
1305 posts
The 2008 Senior Softball Rule Book, consistent with the ASA Rule Book, discusses permissable gloves at 3.6 on pages 23-24, in part:

3.6 GLOVES
Gloves may be worn by any player, but mitts may be used only by the catcher and first baseman. No top lacing, webbing or other device between the thumb and body of the glove or mitt worn by a first baseman or catcher, or a glove worn by any fielder, shall be more than five inches (12.70 cm) in length. Here are the maximum length specifications.....

One of the stated maximum specifications is: "...1st finger top to bottom edge 14 inches (35.6 cm)..." [Emphasis added]

Hope this helps.
Feb. 16, 2009
THECAT
59 posts
The 2009 ASA rule book. Rule 3 section 4, page 44 states: Glove/Mitt. A glove/mitt may be worn by any player. Is there another interpritation somewhere else that the SSUSA using?
Feb. 16, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
I used a 15 inch glove for a couple of years
till I lost it and it was harder to manipulate
but could get to and stop more balls
when pitching and playing 3rd base.
I would lose the ball often in transfer and sometimes couldn't tell if the ball was in the glove or not.
I new it was technically illegal and so did
just about everyone else
but safety dictated the move and I've seen
many more 15 inch gloves in existence.

It really is a trade off as said earlier
so there really isn't an overall advantage in my book
but fundamentally, I agree with Bruce.
Safety for pitchers, first and 3rd.
Use a blanket if you want.
Now there's an idea.
Blanket ball.

I know Worth makes a 15 inch model called Joker
and it's not bad but it's a bit heavy.
I miss the Rawlings one I lost.
It was much lighter.
Feb. 16, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Again, rules being changed to accommodate unnecessary equipment. :(
Feb. 16, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2691 posts
Thanks Cat. I do remember the rule being changed by ASA a couple of years ago.
STAFF, check the lastest ASA rule book.
Feb. 16, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2691 posts
Here it is in the 2008 ASA rule book:
Section 4. GLOVE/MITT. A Glove/Mitt may be worn by any player. The dimensions
of any glove/mitt used by any fielder shall not exceed the specifications set forth
below (see drawing and specifications).

Here's a link to the 2008 rules:
http://www.techstarcomputers.com/sonic625/2008_ASA_TeamRuleBook_with_code.pdf
Feb. 16, 2009
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Joe alluded to this in his post. A large glove is a heavier glove - it might give you a little bit more leather to throw out there but possibly at a cost - slower adjustment at the ball coming back - especially if the pitcher is not setting himself in a defensive posture to field the ball after EVERY pitch. That's what you see the good fielding pitchers do.

Keep in mind at 1st base we usually have time to set our angle to where the ball is coming from and position the glove to receive the throw. Even fielding from the batter we're in a crouch awaiting the ball so in a defensive posture. I used the Nakoma 14" for awhile but it was just too top heavy especially at other infield positions.

I've found the Rawlings 13.5 six finger works well with a large pocket and not heavy for easier top to bottom transition.
Feb. 16, 2009
OTE24
Men's 65
123 posts
4x4 I found a Rawlings that's light
and has decent padding. RS1408-14
inch,found it at Big 5 of all places.
A glove may seem like an unnecessary
piece of equipment,but playing with
bare hands really hurts. Anyone
know of a 14 inch 1st baseman glove?
Feb. 16, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Good job guys. Ignore Dirty.
Feb. 16, 2009
stig1
Men's 60
32 posts
OTE24 rodriguezgloves.com have custom made 1st baseman's mitts 14" and also have 15" fielders gloves. I bought a 14" outfielders glove and they have about 10 different parts of the glove and about 10 different colors for those parts. They are a good quality glove made in Mexico.
Feb. 16, 2009
OTE24
Men's 65
123 posts
stig1,
Thanks,love your hometown.Great BBQ.
WOW-Who?
Feb. 16, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Ignoring comments like mine is the head-in-the-sand mentality that has the Senior game where it is now.
Feb. 16, 2009
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Dirty - it's not head-in-the-sand when it comes to you, it's discriminating and preserving of the game to weed you out.

You've over earned your distinctively elevated status. We'll leave the head location part alone.

Feb. 16, 2009
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
OTE - there are some 14" 1B gloves out there but I can't recall the manufacturer. Check SBF for possiblities.
Feb. 16, 2009
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
WOW - your 1 word post/response was much more eloquent than mine. Sorry guys that I did not notice it sooner.
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