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Discussion: Team Ratings

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March 4, 2009
Gekle BUilders
Men's 50
204 posts
Team Ratings
JMO but the denial of Minnesota Greyhounds request to move down to major is a major mistake.I have no personal stake in this other than the request of fair play.Team didn't win a game against major teams last year.I don't think M+ is that desperate for teams!
March 4, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
Hi Ray I have a feeling the next few days we are going to have a lot of testimonials on why so and so got moved and so and so didn't. To tell you the truth it's getting time to just play some ball. It is what it is. It's March I hope your weather starts to give you guys some relief, looking forward to seeing you guys down the road. I don't think we are going to Chicago the new date was a deal breaker to close to Reno for us. We are looking at something else we'll see. I know it's spring my wife and I saw the Cubs/Whitesox preseason game today here in Vegas.
March 5, 2009
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Gekle, I think they went 2 and 3 in Phoenix, and they won the SPA last year. We split with them in Phoenix, and I thought they were pretty good.
March 5, 2009
wagon487
Men's 50
507 posts
The changes in my area (east coast 50)seem about right on.
GOOD JOB GUYS! Now the rest of the country, i don't have a clue.
March 5, 2009
Husky71
Men's 50
25 posts
Seems like they left a few teams from the western states behind that should have made it to major plus... I'm surprised how few teams actually got moved!
March 5, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4251 posts
I noticed a few west coast teams that fell through the crack as well. Was glad to see LV60's finally got moved up.
It will be an interesting year,
I'm sure comments will be seen soon on these that were or were not moved as well.
I do hope the goal for more equal competition and more teams to play in any given tournament becomes a reality.
March 5, 2009
Husky71
Men's 50
25 posts
Well, I see one team I thought belonged in the "new" Major Plus just made it, Four Seasons out of Oregon.. That seems right, they had a very good year in '08
March 5, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
678 posts
Taits,

There are always going to be teams that fall through the cracks. This is not a prefect world. With all of these move-ups, these missed teams will stick out like a sore thumb, and eventually be moved up. What I do not care for, is a team that OBVIOUSLY should be moved up, and in no way, fell through the cracks. They were purposely held back. I cannot be the only one that sees these things, so I will let you guys figure this one out. I will tell you that this team is a 55 team that improved themselves for this upcoming season, and won 3-4 rings last season, including the TOC! Can we guess which team this might be? LOL! I know for a fact that they were held back, because 2 of their players told me that they were guaranteed to not move up after the new ratings came out. I did say jokingly to them, "how do you like our rings" and they just laughed. Anyway, I think the overall rating changes were good and hopefully the teams that got bumped up do not end up where they were originally, when the Phoenix Worlds begin. Have a nice day guys!

Andy Smith,
Double Nickels,
Manager/Coach
March 5, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4251 posts
Duke,
Would it just happen to be one of these 1st place finishers?
MEN'S 55-MAJOR+
1. Travelodge 55's (IN)

MEN'S 55-MAJOR
1. The Titans (FL)

MEN'S 55-AAA
1. No Dice (CA)

MEN'S 55-AA
1. Tanel / Austin Lonestars (TX)


But your right they do fall through...:>Q
March 5, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
678 posts
Taits,

None of the above teams is the team that I talked with. When you guess correectly, I will confirm it. I am sure over 80% of senior softball knows which team this may be and will guess correctly some time today. Try again! LOL!

Andy Smith,
Double Nickels,
Manager/Coach
March 5, 2009
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Duke.............don't get too close to the edge.......you might get pushed.
March 5, 2009
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
SALIO2H hows the mm bat?
M
March 5, 2009
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
softballer.........Hitting well with it.Also bought the U2 Maxload, good bat, hope it lasts.
March 5, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4251 posts
I got wrong year, must be OTE.
Been wrong before, chances are will be again down the road.
March 5, 2009
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
salio2k that's good new i miss it already!
M
March 5, 2009
SlopitchRR
Men's 50
24 posts
Husky71, why should we have just made it. YES we had a good year, BUT we did not win a tournament, we did not get any rings, we finished 8th in Phoenix, tied for 5th at Winter Nationals, behind East Bay Oldies, Colorado Mudhens, and the champion Tucson Bandits, who we just barely beat in Salt Lake City, by coming back in the bottom of the seventh. Like I said before all this re-ranking. There were 28 teams in Phoenix, I thought the caliber was equal and any team could have won it. If you base it on what we did last year, then there should be alot of other teams moved up to Major+
March 5, 2009
SlopitchRR
Men's 50
24 posts
and ONE more thing, the only tournament we have EVER won is the AAA in Seattle in 2006, as we have continued to get crushed by the NW LEGENDS, who got moved up to Major+ after winning at least 6 tournaments that I know of, now we are in the same classification with them again.
March 5, 2009
Husky71
Men's 50
25 posts
SlopitchRR, I agree with you that there are other teams that could/should have been pushed into M+ with or before your team. I'm with MTC 50's, so I feel your pain! You guys finished ahead of us all last year. Look forward to seeing your team at Reno, you're a fun bunch to compete with!
March 5, 2009
SlopitchRR
Men's 50
24 posts
Husky, I think the reason they moved us is we added 2 of the Arizona Mob players to our team
March 5, 2009
Gekle BUilders
Men's 50
204 posts
Ken sorry I didn't make myself more clear,I was refering to the 50 M+ team.They were real good a couple years ago than all their players went to 55 M+ thus the drop off in rating.
March 5, 2009
SlopitchRR
Men's 50
24 posts
We are not a bad team, but I really think some other teams should have moved up with us
March 5, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
Rick the freakin MOB strikes again. How about posting your schedule in the 50 major plus thread. I'll pass it around and any chance for an email I'll send you what I have.
March 5, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
The two you picked up are no slouches. How is Willie doing I lost touch with him since he went with you guys.
March 5, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
678 posts
Hey Sal,

That was good!

Tait,

I know you had some help with this, LOL! It is a shame, when our minds start to wonder. LOL!

Andy and you know the rest!
March 5, 2009
2awesom
Men's 50
296 posts
IMO I think they missed one Sweet Constr 50's are very capable of playing
50 Major Plus, but hey good for them
they remain at the Major level.
March 5, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
Rick (2awesom) I'm going to be an optimist on this. Here's hoping some of the left behind teams in major that are capable of playing major plus struggle a bit with the new HR rule and hopefully if they see some of us having good games and tournaments maybe they will move themselves up. I can tell you from some experience that the 5 HR rule will keep scores down significantly we played in Phoenix and there were some very low scoring games from some good hitting teams.
March 5, 2009
Gekle BUilders
Men's 50
204 posts
2awesom they didn't miss'em they were moved up around the end of 08 and than moved back down today?
March 5, 2009
SlopitchRR
Men's 50
24 posts
Joe, if I knew we were going to be moved up, I would have gotten you on the team too. As far as Willie, we have just talked alot on the phone, but he plans on playing with us in Mesquite.
March 5, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1004 posts
Rick (4 seasons) I got almost all of the west coast schedules if you can get me an email I can get you on the distribution. We will be in Mesquite also.
March 6, 2009
2awesom
Men's 50
296 posts
To I believe Ray from Gekle Bldr's You know I thought they had been Major+
but was not sure. I guess for some reason they were moved back down. We played them at the NE Championships in Cape May, NJ and we had a great 3 game series. We wound up winning, but if we play them as a higher class, they win due to getting 5 runs. But anyway
I'm not saying anything negative against those guys, they are a good group of guys!
Are you guys going to Salem, VA this year again? We missed playing you guys last year there, because we stunk up the place in the Double Elim.
I am hoping you guys are, I think we could have some great games against each other. thanks rick #22
March 6, 2009
Gekle BUilders
Men's 50
204 posts
Rick,We are still trying to sort things out with ISF and Midwest tourney.SSUSA moved Midwest to same week end but,with all the new and crazy rule changes we might play more none SSUSA stuff.What team did you play for last year.We had a great time at that tourney and loved the facility.Bathrooms in the dugouts that was cool.Sweet is a good team I'm not sure way they went back down.Didn't have any trouble with to many HRS out there in Va.I like that format.

Have a great day
Ray
March 7, 2009
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
Rick, but you have the nicest jerseys in the game!! Seriously, I agree with you that the Four Seasons should not be moved up to Major plus without some of these other teams also moving up. Selfishly we need someone to play here in the Northwest but I think a team should not be moved up until they win some tournaments. You have a great group of guys!
March 8, 2009
2awesom
Men's 50
296 posts
Hi Ray I am one of the coaches/players on the Frederick Chev E&E Metal Fab Team. We have been moved to Major Plus for the 2009 Season.

Yes the dug-outs with Bathrooms are rather unique. I would say we will probably be playing at Salem, VA this year, but I am not sure yet. Thanks!
Rick
March 8, 2009
wagon487
Men's 50
507 posts
You can use senior bats this year in Salem!
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