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Discussion: chng of pitching height due to weather/wind

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April 9, 2009
Hunny B
Women's 50
3 posts
chng of pitching height due to weather/wind
need to know is it fair to chng the height of the pitch due to wind.(situation) 2nd day of tourny, second or 3rd game, the 2 umps decided among themselves to lower the pitch"due to wind" the wind was just as bad the games prior. As a pitcher i'd rather make my adjustment in my pitch w/the wind. our next game on a diff diamond, there was no adjustment made...the height shld stay consistant per the guidelines and not chng due to wind...feedback please, and if i was on the team tht lost(w/o the game before ours, i'd really be upset to the point of wanting and needing to protest.
April 9, 2009
leftie
Men's 50
41 posts
I guess the umps can do what they feel is the most expedient to get the game in the books without violating playing rules.
Since balls and strikes are umpires judgment, you probably couldn't protest it anyway.

April 9, 2009
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
yes they can if necessary.
April 9, 2009
green rocket
51 posts
Hi Softballer!

As an umpire, what we don't want is a walkfest, and I know the ballplayers don't want that either. If the pitcher(s) is struggling and the wind make it impossible to toss strikes with a high arc, we bring it down.

Swing the bat!

....and consistancy is what everybody is looking for.
April 9, 2009
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
hey green rocket man! good seeing u last weekend!
April 9, 2009
LP
276 posts
there is a rule in place if the wind is a factor, you only call strikes, there is no walks. with this being the case the pitcher can adjust to the wind and pitch his/or her game.
April 10, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
LP, you are kidding, aren't you? What a bizarre rule!
April 10, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
SSUSA '08 rules
6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS
In an emergency wind or sun situation, if, in the opinion of the umpire, the wind or sun is having a discernible affect on the accuracy of both pitchers, the umpire may declare that only strikes count. In the case of sun interference, the umpire mheight of the pitch.

SECTION 15 ADVERSE WEATHER
15.1 TOURNAMENT COMMITTEE DECISION
15.1(1) TOURNAMENT PLAYED OR MODIFIED
SSWC Qualifiers and World Championships alike may be played
in adverse weather conditions much like a football game. Players
accept these conditions when entering. If it becomes necessary in
the judgement of the Tournament Committee, playing procedures
may be modified. If game times must be reduced because of time
limitations due to inclement weather, or other Acts of God, the fol-
lowing method may be considered: Batters have a one/one count
when they enter the batter’s box. If there is even more of a time
restriction, then the batter may be allowed only one strike.
15.1(2) TOURNAMENT TERMINATED
If, in the opinion of the Director(s), a Senior Softball World Champi-
onships must be terminated prior to its conclusion because of adverse
weather or other Acts of God, the tournament will not be postponed
beyond its ending date. Should this unlikely event occur, refunds

OFFICIAL GUIDE
will be made at the discretion of the SSWC Executive Board. In no event will refunds be made after (2) two games have been played.

There is no guarantee of any refund. Participants must realize that
no one can control weather or other Acts of God.
15.1(3) STANDINGS IF TOURNAMENT IS TERMINATED
If for any reason (such as inclement weather) a tournament must
be terminated, game standings at that point will determine the champions.
15.2 A COMPLETE GAME
A game becomes official upon completion of 4-1/2 innings if the home team is ahead, or 5 innings if the visiting team is ahead. Incomplete games will be played at the discretion of the Tournament Committee. At the discretion of the Tournament Director, and with agreement of the manager of the losing team, games may be called after 4 innings if the winning team is ahead by 15 runs. 95
April 11, 2009
Wick
12 posts
Interesting rule. But it sure didn't help us when we were in the 60s Major Semis in Mesquite. ..and both teams ended up walking 29 batters collectively and we lost with 40 mph gusts.

Apparently the finals were played with no walks, but that sure didn't help us. I guess it took the umpires two games to figure it out, kinda like the PPR!=-)
April 13, 2009
LP
276 posts
the key thing is that the umpires have to read the rule book to even know that that rule existand or the tournament director should know and be ready for such conditions. hopefuly the TD cares more about the game than to just let the time limit go by and just get the game over with. without regards to quality of the game.
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