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Discussion: hotel room rates

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April 20, 2009
WOW
197 posts
hotel room rates
Just booked rooms through Pricline for Reno for $50 per night [Thurs, Fri., and Sat.]$177.99 total for 3 nights.
April 20, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Sorry. I forgot to add that the Rooms are at the Peppermill
April 20, 2009
turn2
484 posts
Price line has some good deals. I got the Hyatt Place in Sterling Va for this weekend for 3 nights for $155 with all the taxes and fees. I use them a lot and name your own price.
Donnie
Turn Two / Rock Solid
April 20, 2009
DesertDave
Men's 60
74 posts
WOW, Thanks for the heads up on the rooms. What team do you play for? I guess my wife will be happy enough with the hotel now. I owe you a beer.
April 21, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Glad I could save you some $. Prime Time Mgr.
April 21, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2629 posts
I found a price of $43 at The Atlantis's motor lodge for Thursday through Sunday.
Go to gtahotels.com
I didn't book them because my wife would rather stay in the tower.
April 21, 2009
ShaneV
Men's 55
381 posts
Promo rate at the Sands (sign up for players club to receive the flyer each spring) -

$25 Thur
$60 Fri
$60 Sat
$25 Sun

Reg rate -

$45 Thur
$65 Fri
$65 Sat
$34 Sun
April 22, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Just had a teammate bid $40 per night and got rooms at the Peppermill. Priceline is great!
April 23, 2009
Omar Khayyam
987 posts
There are a lot of rates that sadly beat the official Housing Connection hotel rates of SSUSA. I am at the Atlantis on Monday through Thursday night for $90!! Yes, $22.50/night! I cancelled an earlier reservation for $28.00 a night through Otel.com, just like I cancelled my direct reservation at the Sands for $42 a night. Shop around, guys, until these SSUSA group rates become competitive.
April 23, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Unfortunately SSUSA is trying to make a buck off us staying at their "Special" hotels. I can understand the concept and have no problem with them getting a % of the take IF WE AS PLAYERS WERE ALSO BENEFITTING but we are not......
April 24, 2009
Omar Khayyam
987 posts
WOW, I agree. Usually large group bookings are a benefit to the players, and if this were the case, I would stay at the Sands again to help SSUSA, even though it's a bit over the hill. Give us a competitive rate and why wouldn't we want to patronize a "special" hotel that also provides conference rooms, schedule boards, etc. Maybe SSUSA doesn't know how to drive a bargain that benefits everyone, including the hotel which fills up its rooms.
April 24, 2009
WOW
197 posts
I believe Terry is basically a good guy and I thank SSUSA for giving us a place to play, but the explanation of "How the entry fee discount works" isn't "working" for most of us. It becomes pretty obvious to anyone who checks that this is nothing special and certainly NOT any kind of a discount. After playing in these tourn. for 13 yrs.,I don't need to have any explanation of why or how things are done, especially one that insults my intelligence. I don't care if you get a kickback from the Hotels, Car Rentals, Airlines, Jostens, Annaconda, Miken etc. YOU SHOULD! If you didn't you'd be stupid!, but be honest about the explanation and try to get a deal for your attendees too. It is there!!
April 27, 2009
WOW
197 posts
What was the SSUSA rate at the Sands?
April 27, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4336 posts
Here is a post that was made Mar 18.
"I just checked, the host hotel rate charged by the Sands is $220 for Thurs-Sunday. Kayak shows $216 for the same dates at the Sands.
I guess you/your team makes out if 5 rooms are booked, then you get the discounted entry fee for the tournament."
May 1, 2009
WOW
197 posts
I guess I'm still wondering why this thread doesn't get more interest.
May 1, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4336 posts
Perhaps due to it's almost a break even cost between getting the "host rate with Fee discount" as opposed to a cheaper rate one can get on their own.
Good luck there playing 3A.
May 1, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
701 posts
WOW,

I think this thread does not get as much attention as it should, is because players/teams are burnt out over all of this and other similiar issues, and have looked for other places to play that are closer and/or less expensive tournament fees. Obviously, this will mean smaller tournaments, but that is OK, you still get your 5 games and sometimes more for an entry fee of #300 or less, and yes I said less.

To add a little to the main issue of this thread, I stated a comment months ago and got very little feedback or comment. I tried to rent a car through SSUSA/Advantage Rent-A-Car and the price was DOUBLE(EXACTLY DOUBLE), as compared to renting it and not mentioning SSUSA.

Lastly, I have been looking ahead and checking the prices of upcoming tournaments. Have you checked out the price for the Phoenix Worlds? You might look ahead and check it out, $660 entrance fee. If they do not change that price back to at least last year's amount, you are not going to see such a large turnout this year. Several teams that I talked to about this have said the following: it would be more worth their money to play 2 tournaments for that price and be guaranteed 10 games and stay more local. Based on a 5 game guarantee, this works out to be $132 per game. See if any of this gets any attention. LOL!

There is some good sense to their logic. Let's say for example that they have a 10% less turnout this year than last year at the Phoenix Worlds. I believe last year, that there were about 335 teams? If they lose 34 teams that would be a loss of $22,440 in revenue. that leaves 301 teams that show up and pay an extra $85 times 301 teams, which equals $25,585. No revenue lost and less teams to deal with, and not as much help needed to run the tournament or fields needed to rent or softballs or travel expenses. I believe that is very smart on their part. You guys figure out the rest. I have done enough research on many issues, and remember this, this is just a business to Terry, and he will make whatever moves that he feels to bring home the $$. Honestly, that is good to a degree, but what degree and at whose expense?

Andy Smith,
Double Nickels,
Manager/Coach
May 1, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4336 posts
Duke,
Well put and correct. Unfortunately for the players it's the nature of the business beast.
I have also heard many teams say they will stay closer to home for the reason you mention. Two for one is a deal, & even more so, when you consider the other cost.
The over revenue is even more for then when you add ups and awards in to that 3k+ profit as stated. Too many other factors go into, but the outcome is still; less equals more in the end.
May 3, 2009
THECAT
59 posts
How about Western Village Inn and Casino in Sparks, 775-331-1069 or 800-648-1170. 815 Nichols Blvd, Sparks.
Close to Shadow Mountain Complex. RV parking available. It's right off the freeway. $60 a night tax is included.
May 12, 2009
bprieve
17 posts
I join WOW and others about being very concerned about being ripped off by SSUSA and The Housing Connection on hotel prices.

And The Housing Connection will not make good on their "low price" guarantee, at least for Reno.

I have also learned that SSUSA/Housing Connection is forcing hotels to sign "exclusive" contracts that preclude our teams from booking directly with a hotel and prevent us from to saving the approximate $30/room/night that is added to the Housing Connection/SSUSA price over direct booking. I think that is unconscionable.

Do other senior softball associations play the same types of shinnanigans?
May 13, 2009
WOW
197 posts
Finally!!!! someone else speaks up. SSUSA gets a commission on EVERYTHING! I don't really care about that. If they can, that's OK. They bring a lot of $ into the various cities hosting their events. They should. I'D DO THE SAME. What I have a problem with is these "special rates" not being "SPECIAL". In fact they are more expensive, and that is plain wrong!. We are being handed a line of BS on how they benefit us as players. That IS unconscionable. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find out it costs more to get these SPECIAL rates. I'm not just referring to hotels, but also car rentals, airline tickets etc. Someone must think we are stupid. Also, in the future, FYI, if you want to stay at any hosting hotel, signing a "exclusive" contract doesn't mean we have to avoid that hotel. Don't identify yourself as being with any group. The reservation dept. won't know your with SSUSA and you won't have to pay more for the "special" rate OR be precluded from even just booking. As I said before, THIS PROGRAM WILL TURN INTO A REAL PR NIGHTMARE IF NOT CORRECTED.
May 14, 2009
bprieve
17 posts
I agree with you, WOW. If I had known that the Housing Connection is locking out competitive bids from the tournament hotels (they haven't even been listed on the SSUSA site for Salt Lake yet, so I could not have known which hotels to be "careful" with), I would not have identified us as a team. Live and learn (to avoid Housing Connection!)
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