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Aug. 1, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
ISA, Gallatin,
My thanks to the grounds crew at Triple Creek Park for getting the fields ready yesterday so we could at least play SOME softball! With the torrential rains Thursday and field conditions Friday morning, we expected to not play until today (Saturday). I saw the fields Friday morning and a couple of them had a lot of standing water. By Friday afternoon, the fields were in very good condition!

It was also good to see my Virginia, California and Florida friends again!
The MTC team and Florida bunch both looked very good. The IMS Dogs from VA has a few of my old Capital X-Ray teammates (50 Major) and it was good to see them after being gone from Virginia for 10 years now. It was also a pleasure to meet BruceinGA. He will certainly help the Florida team this year.

Best of luck to all,
Larry Lopez
OK Turf Pro (60 Major)
Aug. 1, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2689 posts
It was nice meeting you larry!
I agree that the grounds crew did a great job.
We were able to play one game on Friday afternoon.
Good luck to all.
Aug. 2, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
Saturday was a challenge. We were lucky in that we were "only" an hour behind our scheduled game times. We were fortunate to win our two games and were done by about 5PM. I went back later to see my Virginia ex-teammates (IMS Dogs) play. They were running about 2 1/2 hours behind at that time! There 6:15 game was about to start at 8:45.

Allowing 75 minutes in the schedule for a bracket game that is allowed 65 minutes PLUS finish the inning and one more is way too short. SPA used 90 and that worked well. Also, only scheduling 90 minutes for championship games will be seen to be too little today, I can guarantee. We got 2 hours in Dalton and that also worked out well.

I think they probably played to at least 11PM last night. And I know some of the guys had 8AM games this morning.

Best of luck to everyone today. Hope the rains hold off.
Aug. 2, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
Bruce, it was good to finally meet the man with all the posts on the various boards! I always enjoy meeting fellow board members! You guys looked good when I saw you Friday. Hope everyone stays safe and has a good weekend.
Aug. 2, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2689 posts
Thanks Larry. We played at Municipal Park Saturday; games were about two hours behind the scheduled time. Field 2 was the worst infield That I have ever played on. It was marked at a tee ball field (banners and such). Although the fences were 290-300 the infield wasn't cut correctly. About 5 feet beyound first base the grass began. This caused the infielders to play amost in the base paths. The last game there Saturday was played by Kayson's. The lights were so bad that both mgrs refused to play so the staff agreed to move the game to field 1. Props to the staff.
The fields in Gallatin were sub par but the officiating was excellent.
The skys look good this morning, hopefully no rain.
Aug. 2, 2009
bullet
Men's 55
137 posts
Let me add my 2 cents to Gallatin. The grounds crew did a wonderful job getting the fields ready,BUT once they started to dry, they needed to work on them again.They got very hard and had many bad bounces.The outfields were terrible,for a national tourney.Four of the fields had "temp" fences. Very poor ran tourney.50 and 55 major and major+,playing on the fields with 300' fences,BUT AAA & AA Played on fields with 340' fences.We should not have tourneys with fences that deep.You build a team for certains things.
I must say the Umps were very good,They knew our special rules and tried there best to be in position to make the calls.
I think all of us need to reconsider going to the ISA national until they have a new person running it.2 years now and it has been messed up.
Aug. 2, 2009
Leoslocks
Men's 60
45 posts
Just got back from Gallatin after watching Kason win the AAA division (with 11 players). They beat a tough Chicago Prime team. Rams fought the Chicago team but came up slow footed in the outfield after battling their way through the losers bracket to take 3rd.
Still, Chicago Prime earned a berth to the TOC by besting all the AAA teams.

As for field 2, we had to play on it Sunday morning and the lip of the infield was a launching pad for bad hops.

Field 9 may have been 340 in the corners but stepped off to be 375 in center. They need to give AAA teams an extra outfielder when they play on that field.

All 10 teams in the AAA bracket were gracious in winning and loosing. Their character and passion for the game made me feel like I was playing this game that I love on Holy Ground.

When the facility if finished, it could be a great Tournament location.
Aug. 2, 2009
Big D from Tennessee
Men's 50
79 posts
BruceinGA

Hey Big D from Monster Softball - Memphis. Joe Parton and I was looking for you all day Saturday. Sorry I did not get to see that sweet swing that Joe raves about!!
Maybe we meet in Birmingham or Dalton
Aug. 3, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2689 posts
Sorry I missed you Big D. We played on the "tee ball field" at Municipal Park on Saturday.
I think I'll be in Birmingham with Kayson's. Hope to see you there.
Aug. 3, 2009
wagon487
Men's 50
530 posts
I thought the Kayson played Major in the SPA two weekends ago? They came in third. If it is the same team, they should win the AAA.
Aug. 3, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2689 posts
They did (here we go again). Three key players couldn't make it to Tenn. As posted here last week ISA told them to play in the AAA pool games. If they dominated pool play they would be moved to the Major brackets. I don't think they dominated in pool play so they remained in the AAA brackets.
I didn't play with them for fear of being suspended for playing with a AAA team.
We knew this would be a topic of conversation this week!
Aug. 3, 2009
Airbosn
Men's 65
322 posts
Got to Gallatin Thursday, then the rains came, did not think we would play until Saturday, however, field crews got the fields ready...Played all our games on field 7 and 8 which were in playing condition. Triple Creek will be a fine facility when construction is completed. BTW a hi-five to Oklahoma Turf Pro. They gave us and the fans some excellent softball.

Morris Farm Player #33
Aug. 3, 2009
SAG
83 posts
For the record: We were rated AAA in SSUSA when we turned in our entry. When we found out we were moved to major we called the director and informed him of this. He did not call us we called and emailed him. We offered to play major but we were bringing a good AAA team up there. As stated before we were told they would place us after pool play and they put us in the 50AAA bracket. We only scored 6 runs in our pool play game but if they watched the game they would have seen most of our outs were hit hard and played good defense. The team we played used 11 players since they were a AA team. For this tournament we had our starting 3b 57, ss 55, 2nd 51, LC 55 and pitcher 53. All other players there would have been subs if the others were there. Our lf 54 and rf 53 are regular subs but hit in most tournaments. Our rc 57, 1b 59, and catcher 58 are pretty much subs and play when needed and hit only in pool and bracket play until the finals.

We were missing our lf 51, rc 51, rf 50, both firstbasemen(Bruce and a 52 year old one of the best hitters on the team next to Bruce)and our 2nd pitch and best defensive pitcher 54(all of them legitamate major players). We did get a surprise on Saturday when one of our power hitters showed up. He had an achillies injury and could hit but not run or play defense. We did not expect him to be there. We won because we played great defense,hit good most of the tournament and got a good draw. We hit a total of 9 homeruns in 5 games and 4 were hit by 1 guy and 1 was an inside the parker. Used 3 in one game. I tink you will find that most teams would say they did not play very good when they played us except for the Chicago team the second time we played them. We enjoyed playing and we think got the respect of most of the teams as not being a bunch of jerks that won most games by playing small ball. Good defense, hits and speed. We also get along great as a team and enjoyed playing each team.
Steve George #19 Kaysons Grille
Aug. 3, 2009
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Well, hell must have just froze over, we won our first major game by 1. I'm not goin to complain, but our petition is in the mail. We've paid our dues. I just hope Bret and the other guys that took BP on us will back us up. Good games guys and good luck. BTW the umpires were GREAT. they worked their tales off.
Aug. 3, 2009
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Oh and Bruce,I met some of your team that stayed at the guesthouse inn and told them to tell ya I was looking for ya. Since you were at Municipal and we were at triple creek it just didn't work out. Maybe next tourney good luck
Aug. 3, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
I want to say thanks to all involved in the ISA for getting the diamonds playable for this tourney and the people from the parks dept. Yes the diamonds needed to be dragged in between games but we got to play softball against great teams and friends. Congrats to Kittrels.I also would like to say MTC you have a great team and are a class act.

Butch 17
Aug. 3, 2009
Leoslocks
Men's 60
45 posts
One Major kudo to ISA for using a quality ball. Bid D put one of those Rocks into the parking lot pavement on field 9.
Aug. 3, 2009
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
the ISA staff did a great job considing the weather and did a good job keeping the teams informed on changes that might happen.
Thanks butch for the Congrats
We played the best tourney of the year We won 4 game by a total of 6 runs and our only loss to Al Estes in the 9th by one run. The travel lodge team and MTC are great teams We are very lucky to win some big game in the final inning The 5 run rule played a BIG FACTOR in keeping the score close in some of our wins.
It was good to talk to you and other hope to see you all soon
Don Ward
Kittrell softball
Aug. 3, 2009
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
Butch
Forgot to say sorry for never thowing you a strike but thanks for hitting the junk I threw. I knew what would happen to my outfielder on that 360 ft park
don
Aug. 3, 2009
PaulE
2 posts
I was a member of the local team Perfect Pay. We were allowed to put together a host team of local players for this tour. I'm the only player on this team that has ever played in a senior tourmanent. I'm actualy a AA player(my ability) but played a few games with Monster a couple of years ago. I got hurt the first game but my teammates, most having not played in 9 to 16 years went 0-5 with a 1 run loss game. I'm glad all you guys in 50'sAAA played well. It will help motivate these new(old) players. Thanks everyone for the positive comments about the parks crew. I also agree with the neg. It could be more shade and believe it or not the large fields were not converted from baseball, these were built large for softball. Hopefully the park can be finished and the fields at municiple can be upgraded.Thanks to all who came. The major players also. You guys were something to see.
Aug. 4, 2009
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
My hat is off to the TD for the Trump balls. They were great. The umpire crew really did a fine job also. However, I have a little different perspective on the performance of the Gallatin city field crew.
I was at the fields early Friday morning. I believe that there was standing water on almost all fields. Five of the grounds crew was sitiing in a crew cab enjoying the weather. I didn't notice any work being done on any fields at this time. I and numerous others suggested that if they blew the water off the fields that they would dry faster. They said that they were waiting on the sun to dry the fields off. My coach suggested to the TD that he might want to say something to the field crew to get them started working on the fields. He was told that the field crew would take care of fixing the fields.
Later when I returned to the fields there didn't appear to be any less standing water and the field crews were still sitting around. Around noon there was a flurry of activity and in a couple of hours, the fields were playable.
If the field crews had started working on the field by eight, we would have been able to start at our original starting time of 11:30.Instead the bracket ball games were limited to 5 innings and 45 minutes. It's my understanding that some teams were only allowed to play one game.
Unless I'm missing something here, I find it hard to praise these guys unless they weren't being paid until they started to actually do something around noon.
In our age bracket there was a team that was just moved up to M. There were four AAA teams in our bracket. The newly promoted team was left in the AAA bracket and had to give the AAA teams five runs. It didn't work out well for them and caused a lot of hard feeling. There was a four team M bracket. If the TD would have moved the M team into the M bracket, things would have worked out better for all concerned.
By the end of the day, we had a lot of fun playing a bunch of other old men. I hope to see everyone again in Birmingham.
Aug. 4, 2009
turn2
486 posts
What was the order of the 60 major plus?
Thanks,
Donnie
Turn Two
Aug. 4, 2009
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Donnie, ISA has them as Miken/Tanel,MTC,Handleland Flooring, and KC Bombers. hombre
Aug. 4, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2689 posts
Donnie, Hombre is right, we made it throught undefeated. The last game MTC has us down by one in the bottom of the 7th. We hit two hrs for the win.
Are you going to Vegas??
Aug. 5, 2009
turn2
486 posts
Bruce,
We will be in Vegas and then the Huntsman Games also. Hopefully we will have 2 or all 3 of our starters back by then.
Later
Donnie
Turn Two
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