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Discussion: Understanding tie-breakers

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Nov. 10, 2009
stattad
Men's 65
168 posts
Understanding tie-breakers
In looking at some of the tie-breakers, I am confused. Look at the 60-AAA in Phoenix. Twelve teams finished 1-1 in seeding play, along with 3 teams that were 2-0. Syracuse got the #4 seed (one of the many 1-1 teams), even though 4 other teams gave up fewer runs (they were all 1-1).

Is this right?
Nov. 11, 2009
stattad
Men's 65
168 posts
I'll make it easy:

http://seniorsoftball.com/wc/wc2009/PHX-09-60.pdf
Nov. 11, 2009
DaveDowell
Men's 60
1067 posts
I'll make it even easier than that ... It was simply a Director's math error affecting 5 teams, NONE of whom noticed the errors at the time ... Seedings were correct for 13 teams and incorrect for 5, as follows:

#4 Syracuse Cyclones - Correctly: #9
#5 Tanel 360/Bud Light - Correctly: #4
#7 Marauders - Correctly: #5
#8 Jersey Masters - Correctly: #7
#9 Tequila All Stars - Correctly: #8

In a FULL Round Robin, or at least a full round robin among the teams with the same record, the head to head record determines the higher seeds. Not applicable here with 12 tied teams. Second criteria is LEAST runs allowed in all seeding games. Third criteria is NET run differential over all games. Two ties were broken using this criteria in Phoenix. Last method is coin toss.

Mistakes happen, and sometimes even go unnoticed for a month. Thanks for pointing it out.
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