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Discussion: einstein and dirty

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Nov. 27, 2009
hitt2
354 posts
einstein and dirty


Gentlement
First, to all of the senior softball community Happy Holidays.
Joe your thought create discussion Dirty will be himself. Making statements about senior softball bats, ball, and number of teams in a bracket, along with his focus on you. It is his game. If he was willing to participate he might regain the love of the game. I have a different take on things. Joe I agree that if Dirty slams a thought it is worth discussing, but not always is the thought the best thing for senior ball. I thought this was a discussion borad, but it appears to have bcome become a litter box. I would like this borad to get back to the orignal purpose"Tournament players discussing the game and more ideas on its' betterment." Joe consider this for a momment. Post your Thoughts and let the community discuss it for several days before adding to the original thought. Dirty I for one don't care about the e-mails you've recieved from Joe or any other indidivuals, that is between you two. From my seat you both have bickered consistently for the past few years to no avail. If you don't like what's posted fine.I think the community is tired of your fued. Dirty ou don't have creditability with most of us, so move on. Both of you need to let others share their thoughts, you've stated your possitions. The recording is tiresome Dirty you admittedly you've stated you use the senior bats, aren't you being inconsistent and doing what your accusing other of. Why not participate and enjoy the game we all learns as kids. Give us all a rest and let the community speak for a change instead of repeating the same drivel. Both of you need to stop the name calling and focus on what's really important to all of us. "THE GAME".
Joe I know you will process my suggestion. Dirty, If you sling some stuff my way I have a rain coat.
Hitts
spell check not working excuse the typos
Nov. 27, 2009
softball1980
Men's 50
15 posts
hitt2- amen brother ,i love what you are saying and agree. thank you for putting it that way. lets just all get along and work on what we all want as a whole, and that is to keep playing the game of softball.and making it safe and fair for ALL.
Nov. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
hitt, I will have played 110 games this year, so to say I don't participate is absurd.

Yes, I use senior bats, and as I have stated MANY times have no problems with them as long as no one wants to change the fundamental way the game is played because of the safety concerns they apparently cause some. This should not be a difficult concept to comprehend.

BUT if you want to start adding things like PPRs and screens then I would be more than glad (unlike many others on here) to give them up to NOT make the infield look like a miniature golf hole. AGAIN, not a difficult concept to grasp.
Nov. 27, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Gary, your opinions regardless
of the discussion are as valuable
as anyone's but
when you slam or get negative
or call people or ideas dumb or stupid
or get pejorative or disparaging
in any real way
then you or me or anyone who does this
are out of bounds
and the penalty flag should be thrown.

Thanks, Hit2, truly.
I believe we can work anything out
as long as we stay positive and
fundamentally respectful.
We ARE all one community and with a little effort and maybe some organization can all go and get along
better together.
Nov. 27, 2009
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Excellent post, hitt2. The same thoughts have been running through my mind for some time, but I haven't thought it worth the time to get involved with these two.
The great pontifficator could improve the enjoyment of others who read this board and his own image by reassessing his selfimportance. As hitt2 said, "Post your Thoughts and let the community discuss it for several days", instead of reiterating them adnauseam. I have meet you several times at tournaments and you seem like a pretty good guy. I don't see that reflected in your posts.
Each time I read one of Dirty's post's, I'm reminded of a comment my dad made about an old lady who was the neighborhood busy body.He said that you just have to ignore her because she lacks the intelligence to know when she's being insulted. I'm sure that it's as obvious to others as it is to me that Gary craves attention. Being obnoxious, antagonistic and sarcastic are his vehicles of choice. Like hitt2, I also have a rain coat.
hombre
Nov. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
hombre, trust me. I have as much intelligence and education as anyone who posts here. Not bragging, they are what they are. And remember, you are the one who brought my intelligence into question, not me.

By the way, ever think how much your comments resemble "einstein"?
Nov. 27, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
It is said that great minds
think alike Gary but it looks like
you and I are starting to agree some, too.
That would make us a three-some
Nov. 27, 2009
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
110 games pretty good there dirty,now how many were at senior tourney's(ss-usa or spa).i'm gonna venture to say 0.
Nov. 28, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Correct, 0. I wouldn't mind playing tournaments again, probably averaged 7-10 a season in the 70s and 80s. But those also averaged 16 to as high as 230 teams back then. To spend that kind of money to play against 3 or 4 other teams, and often the same teams as the one before, just does not appeal to me.

Nov. 28, 2009
outlaw
Men's 50
24 posts
Dirty...if you played tournaments in the 70's and 80's I'm assuming (may be my mistake) that you weren't playing 50 and over ball.
It seems to me that if that is the case you have only opinion and not experience to draw your continual criticism from.
You know what they say about opinions?
Nov. 28, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Those definitely were NOT senior tourneys in the 70s.:)

I played a few Major+ tourneys 3 or 4 years ago when I first turned 50. Just not very big brackets, and mainly the same teams over and over. I have friends who play tournaments now, and same story from them.

The issue is not balls, bats, platooning, PPRs, screens, etc. It is a lack of participation in tournaments by the VAST majority of seniors who play local leagues. To help the game this is what needs to be looked into.
Nov. 28, 2009
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
how many M+ tourneys,2 maybe 3.not a real good number of tourneys to base your opinion on.you say you don't like playing the same teams all the time,well in your league do you change teams every league so as not to see the same team or even the same players.your thought is flawed with the number's of tourney teams in senior vs younger teams.yes the tourney's you attended back then would prolly have more teams in the younger age groups as there are/were more of them.as we get older some don't have the same ambition,family reasons, to play as others do so there will be less teams at local tourney's.also health reasons are a big factor in some not continueing to play. if you go to the national ones you get a lot more,depending on the div you play in.
Nov. 28, 2009
hitt2
354 posts
Thank you gentle men for the positive responses
Dirty/Einstein way to go and grow. Discussion is the way to bring change. Other will continue to join if we talk not bicker/name call or disparge one another. Read a few post today and your going in the right directions. We don't know how long we will be blessed to play this game. Lets us all make it better for those that will follow us in the future. We can be guiding forces instead of weights bring the game down. Everyone put forth your two cents.
Hitts
Nov. 28, 2009
Joncon
285 posts
"""hombre, trust me. I have as much intelligence and education as anyone who posts here"""

Heh heh. Set your standards low and you will always succeed :)

In case you haven't noticed, there are not a lot of rocket scientists posting here.
Nov. 28, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
We have a true and terrific community
that shouldn't be underestimated
by anyone.
Thanks to Dave and Terry who have provided the website and
support for the 1st Amendment
that allowed us the medium
and the opportunity
to solve important problems.
Thanks Hitts, again for helping us
all move together better down the road.
And thanks Gary for recognizing
and being the quality person
that marks you
and all the rest of us, too.
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