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Discussion: 70 foot bases?

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Dec. 7, 2009
Marv19
Men's 60
445 posts
70 foot bases?
70 foot bases? Recently I had a discussion on this. Apparently Las Vegas had 70 foot bases instead of the 65 foot at the last tournament. I'd like some pros and cons on this as we are considering using 70 foot bases at our tournaments. Reply here or contact Don at www.socalssa.com for your comments. Sorry for the posting in so many topics I didn't know what topic was appropriate.
Dec. 7, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
Marv19,

We use 70' basaes in our league. Good if infield is cut deep enough.
Dec. 7, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
725 posts
I liked the 70 foot bases. We got to make more double plays and difficult plays, while still scoring a lot of runs. Probably the older divisions did not find it good??

Andy Smith,
Double Edge
Dec. 7, 2009
stattad
Men's 65
176 posts
If I recall correctly, Hollywood Park had 60' bases in Vegas!
Dec. 7, 2009
Kalkrush
12 posts
If we go to the 70 foot bases put lead off back into the game when pitch is released.
Dec. 7, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
I enjoyed the 70 foot bases in the 60 Majors in Vegas. They allowed our infield to make more plays and throws did have to be rushed as much. Also, since I play outfield, guys did not run on us as much from first to third; the extra 10 feet between first and third caused several who tried to be thrown out.
Dec. 7, 2009
LP
297 posts
hollywood had one field with 60' bases and one with 65' bases.

shadow rock had 70' bases , i didnt think that i would like them but i think that might be the way to go.

hollywood park should not be used for senior softball tournament, just not very good fields.
Dec. 7, 2009
Dbax
Men's 60
1294 posts
50 Major had 70' bases in Vegas. I really enjoyed them. More double plays. Fast guys were thrown out more often. Also cut down on doubles. Only negatives were the inside the park home runs. Whew!
Dec. 8, 2009
Omar Khayyam
1002 posts
Played 10 games in a recent tournament on an older team and with 70 foot bases. Discovered that the number of double plays increased, but also discovered that lots of infield "hits" became outs, especially by a couple of lefties who live on the slow grounder to third. It was also more exhausting for players, especially substitute runners (more prevalent on older teams with bad hips and knees). There could be a problem with 70 foot bases and older teams in a tournament over time.
Dec. 9, 2009
Paco13
374 posts
I play SS with a good range and still strong arm; however, I am not so certain that the extra 5' will make that much of a difference but of course it helps. Here is my point; most of the groundballs unless hit right at U there are by U before U can react, in other words U can not get to them, therefore the extra 5' are irrelevant. What will help us out if the infield is to push the dirt back another 5-10' so we can play even deeper, so those ground balls that go by us now...we can get to them. I play right at the edge, I am afraid that if play 1-2’ in the grass the lip between the dirt and the grass will get me (nasty bounce). Give me the 70’ bases and 5-10’ more of dirt and I show another Ozzie Smith, David Concepcion, Freddy Pateck, Mark Belanger, Bert Campaneris…OLD SCHOOL BABY.
Dec. 10, 2009
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
403 posts
I like the 70' bases and think the pitchers rubber should be moved back to line up between 3rd and 1st.
Dec. 10, 2009
stick8
1318 posts
Paco13, USSSA & NSA have 70 ft bases and it works out real nice. I do agree with you on the need to cut the infields 5-10 ft deeper for that. Even though I play OF in senior ball I play middle or 2b with the kids. We turned so many double plays this year it was silly. We were also fortunate that if we bobbled grounders we still had enough time to throw out runners going to first--and these were against the kids who are fast!! Do you think most senior players would favor 70 ft bases?
Dec. 10, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
I would say go to 70' bases

with 11 fielders NO PPR or NO FLY ZONE rules and play ball. Simple solution or raise height limit so pitcher can get back and be set on defense.
Dec. 11, 2009
stick8
1318 posts
Butch17 we do this in a USSSA sanctioned 50+ house league I play in. The only issue is we use the USSSA ball--40 core 325 compression--a sock. It's mainly a defensive game which I personally like but the vast majority of players don't. If they keep the same ball next year then we'll use 10 fielders. If they switch to a better ball then we'll keep the 11 fielders. I do like your idea except the pitching height. Keep it at 6-12
Dec. 11, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
stick8,

Why do you think people do not want 11

defensive players? Is it because they think it may take a hit away from them?

Dec. 11, 2009
stick8
1318 posts
Butch17 your correct. For this particular league the ball that is used is an absolute sock--worse than the Dudley SB12L. The complaint that most of the league has is using 11 fielders takes the middle away but using a livelier ball they feel more balls will be apt to go thru the infield. I should have mentioned no senior bats are allowed in this league. Personally I would go with using ten fielders and keeping the sock ball.
Dec. 11, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
stick8,

We are on the same page.
Dec. 11, 2009
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
70' bases,only if you let me use a dirt bike to get around the bases.(:o)
Dec. 11, 2009
E4/E6
Men's 60
854 posts
Dog, you must be fast, I was thinking more along the lines of a top fuel drag bike. base to base.
Dec. 12, 2009
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
yeah but i'll try and take more than 1 base at a time,besides i would have to worry about over runs at 2nd and 3rd with a drag bike.LOL
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