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Discussion: What it takes to win the world

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Dec. 17, 2009
barrym
157 posts
What it takes to win the world
I am only posting because most of us are done for the year and its good to get people's opinion. What does it take to win a world championship from sponsors to mangers and chemistry. Adding players during the year does it break up chemistry?
Dec. 17, 2009
JohnBob
Men's 60
248 posts
Stay in winners brackett and have 4 healthy outfielders on Sunday.
Dec. 18, 2009
Paco13
373 posts
At least do not loose the 1st game of the DE. Coming from the looser bracket and play that many games will take its toe on Sunday. Give me 4 horses in the OF at I will win a lot tourneys.
Dec. 18, 2009
Gloffer
22 posts
Good hitting, especially hits when there's two outs and runners on base. This leads to 20 to 25 runs per game which is also essential.
Dec. 18, 2009
diehard
Men's 55
245 posts
The High St. Bucs 55 AAA (now Major ) team won 4 major tournaments this year. SSUSA Atlantic Coast Champ., ISSA World Champ., ASA National Champ., ISSA Winter Worlds all of them coming out of the losers bracket. The ASA, we had to play 5 games in a row on Sunday to win, and we did. It takes a group of good ball players who never give up to do it, but it can be done!

Greg
HSB 55's
Dec. 18, 2009
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
It takes scoring one more run in every game than your opponent. If you do that they declare you the Champ.

The Hitman #13
Dec. 18, 2009
slomo
47 posts
Hitman, I think your comment was meant in jest, and it is funny, but absolutely true. We won at Phoenix this year but we were NOT the best team in our division. I watched most of the other teams and concluded there were 4 or 5 that had little chance of winning unless they were getting several players later (which happens). I also felt there were 4 or 5 teams better than us and in fact one had blown our doors off in the RR. We were trying but they played awesome ball. We played them later in the tourney and they didn't look like the same team and we smoked them. Several times we could have lost but something would happen (a key hit, an opportune error, a close call going our way, a sun in the face fly ball hit, etc, etc. The softball gods smiled on us (and we stepped up) and we won. I watched another division play and one team totally dominated everyone else. In a case like that it would have taken all the planets in perfect alignment for any of the other teams to have won against this jauggernaut. Bottom line it is so much fun to be in a division where so many teams have a chance to win and that was what I saw, for the most part, in Phoenix this year.
Dec. 18, 2009
barrym
157 posts
I totally agree, any team can win anytimetime. Sometimes a great defensive play can stop a rally or a timely hit by someone who dosn't get in that situation sometimes. Sometimes the all-tournament players get overlooked about what they did to get you where you need to be, as in a position to win the tournament
Dec. 18, 2009
DaveDowell
Men's 60
1067 posts
Great thread! ... Absolutely everything mentioned so far is so true ... Would also add that, sometime after the tournament, the eventual Champion in a larger field of teams looks back and remembers that one lucky break that went their way ... The one that had they not gotten it, they wouldn't be holding the trophy ...

Best I ever saw was in a championship game in Reno when a SS wildly overthrew the 1B on a slower runner, but the ball hit the vertical metal pole holding the fence and bounced STRAIGHT BACK to him for the put-out! ... That SS could throw balls until his arm fell off and wouldn't be able to do it again! ... Not every break needs to be that improbable, but there's usually one to point to ...
Dec. 18, 2009
barrym
157 posts
Just by this discussion alone, Will tell you that regardless of the power and the rateing of the team anybody has a chance to win. But the main thing is knowing that before the game starts. I have never seen a man that's too good for the game.
Dec. 18, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Just hope it wasn't a bad call somewhere. They do happen.
Dec. 18, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
I think you have to play good defense, get the outs you are supposed to and the bottom part of your order needs to hit well. When these two things happen you can be very successful.
Dec. 18, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
And a break here or there doesn'y hurt either.
Dec. 18, 2009
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Key to winning competitive games
in all sports is defense.
The tougher the defense when the pressure is on
the better the team will perform.
And that starts with the pitcher.
Pitchers, like hitters, come at all levels and capabilities
and the best teams have the best pitchers and it's no accident.
When 2 teams are evenly matched with hitters it's defenses that can
"rob" or "take away" sure hits
that prevail.
A SS sprinting into left field to snag
a blooper with his back to the infield.
that would have scored
2 runs with 2 outs is a killer
and can take the wind out of the other
team and turn any game.
When your defense is playing very well
you can often feel your team
taking over the game and so can everyone else.
Dec. 18, 2009
stick8
1295 posts
One thing it takes to win a world tournament: LOTS OF LUCK
Dec. 18, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
832 posts
Excellent topic! I agree with all the above - one thing I will add is what I tell our players: if the bottom of the order hits, we will win. I can say in the Nationals we have won, that theme has been proven out in each case. In my experience at the Major + and Major levels, the tops of the orders usually even out; however, when the bottom of the order is hitting and carrying over to the top with one or less outs, we do very well. We have not won anything when our bottom does not hit. JMO
Dec. 19, 2009
curty
Men's 60
105 posts
All great answers, TEAM being the overall concept!
Dec. 19, 2009
Garocket
Men's 55
154 posts
I have played in a few and been around many National and World Tournaments
The key most of the time is for you to win the bad game you will have on your way to the championship

Almost all teams will have that one game that they score less than half of there average runs. That is the game you have to find a way to win. Either by a great defensive game or just that one lucky hit at the right time

Dec. 19, 2009
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
IT DOESN'T MATTER THE LEVEL (AA,AAA,MAJOR,OR MAJOR+).....Good chemistry, good defense, and good hitting throughout the lineup. AND a little luck. It's as good an accomplishment to those who play AA as it is for those who play Major+ to win a National Championship and nobody should DIS those who are still playin the game at any level and giving it their ALL....."Keep on Playin" BTW we've won 4 and a Midwest regional to
(Sorry had to toot OUR own horn)
Dec. 19, 2009
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
All of the responses are very true, but the weather can become a key factor in a world tournament. Conditioning of your players and a strong bench are key,and also commitment. Having too much fun on Saturday will catch up to you on Sunday.
Dec. 20, 2009
GI
Men's 60
164 posts
Having just been a part of CJS who won triple Crown this past year I would say one of big reasons was , we all worked together and this team has been building together as a bunch for the past 5 years. Our coach Barry is consistent and does not kill you when you make a mistake. We practice often when not playing and seem to like being a part of each others lives away from the park. We started out slow this year but peaked at the right time Summer to Oct worlds. I enjoy having fun on the field and realize that our age it could always be the last time we see each other so going out giving hugs and showing respect to each other has been a very large part of our success this year. With 6 guys leaving our 50's bunch after 4-5 years and going up to 55Major it will take us some time to find our direction again. I really look forward to seeing a time in future when we will have a chance to regroup again in 55's and continue our relationships and success. God has blessed me so much and I am thankful for this chance to be a part of being on the field and sharing time with you all. To me that is success. Gary Ingle 50 Major
Dec. 22, 2009
tinman
Men's 50
75 posts
I HAVE BEEN PLAYING SENIOR BALL FOR TWO YEARS AND THE COMPETITION LEVEL AT 50 MAJOR IN PHOENIX WAS AS EQUAL AS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A TOURNAMENT.IN 2008 IN MY OPINION THER WERE MAJOR PLUS TEAMS PLAYING MAJOR.IN 2009 EVERY TEAM I PLAYED AND WATCHED WAS A MAJOR TEAM.IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO WATCH TEAMS AS THEY CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
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