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Discussion: Courtesy Runner rule revisited. I would like comments!

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May 12, 2005
yo-dt
Men's 70
24 posts
Courtesy Runner rule revisited. I would like comments!
I would like to have your comments on the Senior Softball Courtesy Runner Rule. Currently any player on the roster can CR for any base runner at any time. A few years ago this rule had been modified because of abuse to where the runner that is replaced may not be used as a runner that inning.

Proponents of the CR state senior players like the rule because it is comforting to know that if they feel a twinge or nursing an injury that one can at any time get another player to run for you. They also state that it gives a chance for players that are not good hitters to play on a tournament team or accomplished hitters that cannot field a position.

Those in favor of eliminating the CR rule suggest that the injured player ruling prevail. This implies that the injured runner is permanently out of the game. While this may sound drastic to some let's examine the issues. How many times have you seen a gross misuse of this rule? A CR inserted in a game for speed as opposed to injury or limping to first base inning after inning yelling courtesy runner and then go on defense?

It seems that, as with most things, the best solution falls in the middle. If total elimination is too harsh of a change to Senior Softball managers/players then perhaps a courtesy runner can run only once per game.

I could go on and on with the pros and cons of courtesy runners but would rather hear your comments.

I will tally your comments and provide a statistical summary to the Summit Committee for rule evaluation. If you would like to e-mail me off of this web site my e-mail address is bbtb@execpc.com

Thanx, in advance, for your comments.
yo-dt
May 12, 2005
TexasTransplant
Men's 70
424 posts
I think the rule is just fine as it is. Why would it be considered abusive to use any player on your roster within the rules? I don't think I've ever heard anybody complain about this rule.

May 12, 2005
TaterinGa
Men's 50
179 posts
I agree w/TT; there is no problem with the rule; have not ever heard any complaints about it either in 5 years. We had one guy that could not hit or field & it made his day to know that he could be an important part of the team by using the talent that he had. Every time he was ask, he jumped in with a huge smile.

Taterman
Faith Electric 99-02
JAH Masters 03/04
Miken/Old South 05
May 12, 2005
Gary Heifner
248 posts
I agree with Tater. The rule is fine as is. I actually saw several teams in the worlds in Vegas blow it by having guys CR run who were coming up to bat. Many teams set their batting order with the thought in mind of who can pinch run for who to cover guys with injuries. Don't forget the guys who have handicaps and need a CR each time they get on. Without the CR rules, their careers would be over. Also, how about the teams who have 15-16 or more on the roster and when they go to the nationals, only the top 10 or 11 guys do most of the playing. You gotta have a way for the second level guys to be a part of every game. The use of the CR has actually become an important part of the game strategy of the teams who take time to think it out.
May 13, 2005
Legends 11
44 posts
I agree! Leave the CR rule alone, it truly gets everybody involved and far more participation. Heck, if a person is willing to travel thousands of miles and spend thousands of dollars to participate in this game that we all love then let them be CR's. It's the right thing to do.
May 13, 2005
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
I believe it needs to stay the way it is writen. It gives more players a chance to play and help other that need someone to run for them. Alot of player would not be able to play wothout the CR. Most of us in the 50 55 division run for ourself, but we need to think about the 65 70 division thats where the CR really helps the players in long games and tourney that the players just get tried and that little break really helps. It might be the difference for leg clamps or maybe even worst.
May 15, 2005
TaterinGa
Men's 50
179 posts
Yo Don/Coach: Just this weekend, we went to Pensacola: I had both hamstrings strained; I could barely bend over; I could swing OK, but getting to first was a chore; the CR was awesome. Another or our players had just recovered from having a stint installed & other heart related conditions. He was just coming to be an inspiration; our coaches Don/Bruce in Ga put him in the game. He was ALL smiles. He would run to 1B; sometimes would go to 2B just to get back the feel; then would ask for a CR. The look on his face being able to comeback & play after his problems was incredible.

Tater
May 17, 2005
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
thanks Big John you and Connie Mack had a great tourney 3 outs between the both of you. The CR was a big reson that both of you was able to play and help us to win a big tourney as Five Flag Classic.
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