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Discussion: Ghost's of yesteryear.Where are you?

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Dec. 24, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Ghost's of yesteryear.Where are you?
HUNDREDS of great players that would be in their 50's or 60's now seem to be only a few now.WHERE are the guys that played on the big teams from the 60's,70's & 80's,that would be in their 50's or 60's now.Teams such as JERRY'S CATERING ,CAMPBELL CARPET,SMYTHE SOX,WARREN MOTORS,HOWARDS,DAVE CARROLLS,KEN SANDERS,COUNTY SPORTS,YORK, BUNCA,TAYLOR BROS.,RICH'S,STEELES,COPPER HEARTH,WARREN MOTORS, DANS,STARPATH.MARLTON,ELITE COATING,VERNONS,MANATEE,NEW ENGLAND PILGRIMS,LE-ALCO, NEW CONSTRUCTION,RULE CONSTRUCTION,KENTUCKY BOURBONS,CINN-SUDS,DETROIT CAESARS,SNYDERS,BUNCA,PITT-HARD HATS,MILL-SCHLITZ,FT.WAYNE,BROKEN DRUM,LILLY AIR,NELSON PAINT,CAPITOL INSULATION,ROCHESTER EXPRESS,GOOFYS,MINN-NORSE KINGS,BALTIMORE MONUMENTS,CLEVELAND JAYBIRDS,NEW YORK CLIPPERS,CHICAGO STORM,SOFTBALL CITY...ETC,ETC,ETC...Guys like Billy White Shoes,Bill Gatti,Dennis Graeser,Doug Gerdes,Johnny Dollar,Phil Higgins,Benny Holt,Big Miller,Dana Andry,Mike Nye,Ronnie Ford,Bert Smith,Rick Pinto,,,ETC,ETC,ETC....Are any of you guys still with us.There are "Hundreds" of you guys MIA.....PLEASE CHECK IN AND NAME YOUR TEAM if you play Senior Softball....Nourishing food for thought for the holidays to get away from the rhetoric...Let us here from you.Merry Christmas to all and to all a good year (2010).
Dec. 25, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Great post, and a great list of teams.
Dec. 25, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Some of those guys live in and around Jacksonville. I've heard many storys of the when they played up to about 5 years ago.
Maybe Audie knows them.
Some play with Blackburn Trucking in NC. JAH#4, you know them!
Dec. 25, 2009
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
I was in the greater Pittsburgh area playin the the late 60's 70's and early 80's.
The Pittsburgh Hard Hats had a lot of great players, although I wasn't one of them, I played against a lot of the players in tournaments and leagues.
Big Tom Miller (Ford City) and Foxy Nelson (Apollo) were the two big ones. Big Tom went to Three Rivers Stadium and hit 19 out of 20 yard and was using one of the first aluminum bats made. The one with the wood handle and pop rivet end cap. Several of those went to the upper deck and those were the days before the good balls. Two others were brothers Johnny and Bill Sepich (sp?) and they could both play, one short Johnny and Billy pitched. Johnny had one of the best arms I ever played with or against as a Shortstop, he played about 6-10 steps in the grass and had a rocket release.
Just wonder how far these guys would hit it today with the GOOD BALLS & BATS?
Big Tom hit many that were in the 500ft category. These were probably the guys that would the Long Haul Bombers of yesteryear.

AHHHHHHH the old memories!!!!!!!

God Bless, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

The Hitman #13
Dec. 25, 2009
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
NW Legends 50 from Seattle has a few Marlton guys on it.
Dec. 25, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
hitman, did you play with or against Lou DelMastro ever in Pittsburgh?
Dec. 25, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
I played one year with the Hard Hats by then they were Jim's sport shop, or vise a verse a. I then moved to Maryland. There were a number of players that played for Marones ( spelling?)that team won a few worlds. As far as I know not many of them playing now. The only ones I know of is Lou Abel and Jimmy Jones and they now play for HMRs 60s.Merry Christmas to all. Harry Westwood
Dec. 25, 2009
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
I played against both Rick Pinto and Doug Gerdes in a Dearborn, Michigan over 40 league a few years back. As far as I know Rick is no longer playing, but I still play against Doug in a 35+ league at Rotunda Fields in Dearborn.
Dec. 25, 2009
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
I played against the Hard Hats and Jim's Sport Shop. Tom and Foxy were teamates on another local team we played for (Joe's ARMY/NAVY). Frank Thomas former Pittsburgh Pirate and New York Met was on Jim's and he had the largest hands of any man I ever shook hands with. Frank was around a .900 hitter but he only hit singles.
Dirty, I'm sure I played against Lou just can't remember where now.
Do you remember Big Tom and Foxy?

My 2009 60+ team was EXPRESS and my 2010 60+ team is GA/AL MASTERS.

The Hitman #13
Dec. 25, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
The name of the team from PGH. was Maroadis and I am pretty sure they won 4 worlds in a row not sure of the age bracket but i would guess the 40s. Thanks Birdie
Dec. 25, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
DelMastro is a legend in PGH. I never played against him or with him.I think he retired from the game around 1976 or 1977 and never played again.
Thanks Harry
Dec. 25, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Harry, I remember him coming to Parma for the Worlds in the 60s with Jim's. He was quite a character, and the first guy I saw who made me want to become a pitcher.
Dec. 25, 2009
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
Played against several of these West Coast teams a lot in the 60's and 70's while playing for Henry Fords/Pizza Baron out of Portland OR. "The Wood", on this website, was with Capital Insulation, he played against a lot of these guys also. Charlie Waible from Fords and Joe Mesa both play for Ruth Realty, 60 Major Plus. I play for Bickerton(So. Cal) 65 Major, and Top Gun 60's, 60 Major Plus. We're the only ones playing from that era. Lots of the 80's teams have guys playing all over the west.
A few of the Campbell Carpets guys are still playing also.
Dec. 26, 2009
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
Great Post, Was lucky enough to play with alot of guys from the teams from Michigan. JU25, probably played with you, I played with Doug Gerdes for years. Anyone from the north has to know the teams of Nothdurf, Top Notch Travel, Liberty Construction, Budweiser, Coors, and many more. I live in North Carolina the past 9 years but am playing for a team from Virginia...
Dec. 26, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
I introduced Doug Gerdes to a pitch in the USSSA Major Industrial in 1976 at Dearborn MI.Ford Motor Complex.He calmly hit it over the rt.ctr.fence.That shot put us in the losers bracket first game.We won 7 in a row to finish 4th at 7-2.(60 teams)....We played against "Mighty" Joe Young 5 yrs ago in NSA Senior in Gadsden Ala.He murdered the ball.He said he has a kot of back problems & probably would not be playing Senior Ball anymore..."Big" Miller (Pittsburg)-one of the biggest guys I have ever faced on a softball field.....Who remembers Don Ardnt & Mike Parrott? I have heard they have passed on.They were 2 amazingly deceiveingly built guys that could hittem over the light poles.I doubt if either one of them ever lifted weights. God bless their souls.
Dec. 26, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
Dirty, They say that he used to run at the batters and different things like that.A real showman or a pain in the butt if you played against him. I heard that there were a few guys that tried to imitate him but nobody was better than him with the antics. Thanks
Dec. 26, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
That is what I remember most about him. He would throw handfulls of dirt at the plate. Even throw his glove on ocasion to guys like Galloway.

Dick McIntyre from Connecticut was very similar in that era, but just not on quite as good of a team.

No doubt those two influenced me the most.
Dec. 26, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Arndt passed relatively recently. Not sure about Parrott.

Played againt Young in the early 80s, I remember him saying he did not take much BP because all taking too much does is give you the opportunity to create bad habits. Do what you came to do, and get out of the box. Makes some sense, and clearly worked for him.
Dec. 26, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Just checking......Has anyone seen Ricky Huggins???
Dec. 26, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
I've seen Rick Huggins in Savannah in the last to or three years. I've never been introduced to him but I've played in Boone's tournament in the spring of 2007 and Ricky was playing with the Major players. He's a little over weight (who isn't?) but is still in prett good shape.
I'm really surprised not to see him playing senior ball.
Audie may know more about him.
Dec. 26, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Mike Parrot is alive and well North of Houston. He is a Judge up there and still plays golf. I played with Lawrence "Boom Boom" Hutcherson in the early 80s. He was the East Coast Bombat guy in those days. Hutch still plays with Clatt on Turn 2. I haven't seen Mike Nye in years. If he still played, it would probably be with Ed Rose and the Florida boys. Of course, Terry Perryman of the Nelson Paint teams still plays. Terry is with Texas Legends 65s. John Tercheria (Campbells Carpets) was still playing with Old A's until this past year. John had hip replacement and I don't know if he'll play again. John Davide (Pepsico) still plays with Conneticut Sportsplex (Thermco). Harry Westwood, my friend, I hope all is well. I miss you Virginia guys. Larry Lopez
Dec. 26, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
I've heard stories fo Mike Nye from my teammates. I believe he quit playing about 5 years ago.
Yes, John Davide does/did play with Sportsplex.
Dec. 26, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Thanks Bruce....
Dec. 26, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
birdie,

Maroadis won the 45 and over 4 or 5 years in a row. I played with Winchells and we won it the year or two before they started their streak. We had some barn burners with them. I also played against them a lot in the younger days.

I believe their coach was a big guy we called Maroadi Joe.
Dec. 26, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Butch,

Did you play with Winchells in the 35s and 40s. I played with Capital X-Ray. We played you guys a bunch.
Dec. 26, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
Mr. Manassas,

I played a 35 and over with Doc but not any 40. played 40 with Legends and a team out of Columbus, In.

You are who we were fortunate to beat in Meridan, Ms.
Dec. 26, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
We won the 1991 ASA 35's in Meridian as the VA> Pets. We did lose to winchell in the 45's ASA in Meridian but I am not sure what year that was.Are you the leadoff for Travelodge
Dec. 26, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
No I bat second now. Used to lead off until we got Timmy B and Billy O. 45 and over is what I was talking about and hell I can't remember the year either but remember Sunday was really hot in Doc's heavy uniforms. lol
Dec. 26, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Good to hear from you....You are still a pain in my side..I pitched for Murphy's Law and Spicer's...before that I came into the 50s with Fergies.
Have a great holiday
Dec. 27, 2009
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
Some of the Lilly,Copper Hearth & Milw. Schlitz guys are still playing, Paul wenzel & Derek Gallager with Handling flooring, Arlis Jones is playing for a WI. team, Kenny Parker died, John Lilly & Ron Olesiak had boughts with cancer. Rick Scheer is still working for Howards, Joe Young was one of my roommates when he was with Lilly, he's probably still selling spikes out of his trunk! Phil Higgens is just playing league ball, he fills in on Wenzel's team for the Milw. tournaments. Mike Nye,Bill Scillian & Dave Steffan all quit to coach their kids. Dennis Graser and Rick Weiterman still live in Milw, but I beleive they just play in leagues.
Benny Holt still lives in Chicago, probably in the witness protection program somewhere. Dick Laba just golfs.I still play and pitch for GSF with Bob Woodroof[Capital Insulation]
Dec. 27, 2009
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
Oops.....I forgot about Hank Cluess[New York Statesmen] plays in 65 Major+ out of Vegas
Dec. 27, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
DoubleL10, Larry all is well. Still able to play and that is a good thing.Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Maybe we will run into each other at a tourney. Thanks Harry
Dec. 27, 2009
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
Mr.Mannassas, I probably pitched against you, played for Liberty Const. pitched a high one once to Monty Tucker, a line drive that went about 350 never getting over 10 ft high. Played with Doug Gerdes in Dearborn, Mi. for years. Butch17 I know I played against you several times. Had a battle with Maroadis for a championship in the 45, lost by 1 run.
Dec. 27, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Yes,this is all good stuff compared to the constant rhetoric that has been going on this site recently.We never want to forget the good times we had with softball years ago.CRUSADER...I know Derek and Arlis.I remember Bill Scillian when he played with the KY BOURBONS.That is part of my reason for this thread.There is only one guy from the BOURBONS playing senior ball (Harry Young-Jim&Joe)Also 1978 ASA Major Champ-JIFFY CLUB,has no-one that plays Senior Softball....Didnt Joe Pepitone have something to do with softball in the 70's.Either playing or sponsoring?
Dec. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
starburst, I will assume you exaggerated to make a point and don't truly believe the ball never got over 10 feet.
Dec. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
starburst, I will assume you exaggerated to make a point and don't truly believe the ball never got over 10 feet.
Dec. 27, 2009
sjuhoops
123 posts
Thanks Ron. Played with NY Clippers and County Sports. Very Fortunate to play with the best ever(imho) Jim Galloway. Other County Sports players John Davide now with Turn Two, Gary Richter with Thermco. Lou Russo retired still living in the Bronx. Bob Sugerman and Bill Malloy playing senior league on Long Island. Sam Sapienza NY Statesmen founder and tremendous pitcher.
Dec. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
hoops, I 100% agree about Galloway. Then again, I also think Babe Ruth and Jim Brown were the best in their sports, so maybe I am showing my age. :)
Dec. 27, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Dirty, ease up! We all know what starburst meant. The same happened to me when our team, Rehoboth, played Thompson Sporting Goods in the mid 80's. One of their batters tommahawked a high pitch and it has so much backspin that it also appeared to never get over 10'. Maybe it was 20 or 25 but by stating that it never got over 10 just emphasized how long it stayed up and how impressed we were of the swing.
Dec. 27, 2009
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
Thanks for making that point about 10 feet, BruceinGA. There is just something about that statement that drives home how hard the ball was hit. There have been a few times I have seen an infielder actually jump for a ball that went over the fence. Back when we had the t-4000 balls I was playing for Chromalloy/Shallow Waterbeds/Miller Lite from Lubbock and had the pleasure of playing with Dudley Copeland. Pound for pound he was the strongest hitter I ever saw. He hit balls that I still believe rose over the fence like a well driven golf ball. Also, does anyone remember Mike Cellura? or Don Whittingham? or Elby Boom-Boom Bashong? They could hit a little (lol). Thanks for the trip through memory lane.
Dec. 27, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
butch17, I also remember well some of the wars we (Virginia Pets and Capital X-Ray) had with you guys in the 90's! I remember the last 35+ ASA National we won before X-Ray broke up was against you guys in 1996. Then, y'all beat us in the 40+ later that year. That was also my first year playing Senior ball. Mr. Manassas was our primary pitcher. I also remember when y'all knocked us out of the Final 4 in Rochester Hills in 1992 in the 35+ ASA. I'm playing 60s now for the last year and ready to move up to 65s (I'm an "old" dude)! Hope to see you down the road.
Dec. 27, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Starburst, I seem to recall Monty Tucker hit a few balls like you described against us! I remember one on a 315' fence at Watkins Park in Maryland that went over the administration building out past the center field fence. I was playing right field and my jaw just dropped! Now, that one had some HEIGHT
Dec. 27, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
I saw Monty Tucker hit some blasts.

Webbie The t-4000 was a golf ball lol
Dec. 27, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Bruce, you are probably right. But take a look around SBF, there are guys there who swear 350' balls never got more than 12' high.

So I just get a weeeeeee bit skeptical.
Dec. 27, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
I'm just happy to hear a lot of the guys are still playing. Glad to hear from some of guys I have played against and would like to meet next time we are at the same tourney. This truly is what softball is about.

If you see Player25 on here he played with Doc alot.
Dec. 28, 2009
JLD930
Men's 55
67 posts
Definitly a trip down memory lane. I played with Mr D's our of Seattle. We way over achieved in the Nationals in Jacksonville (believe it was 1971) by beating County Sports, Copper Hearth and Greenbelt Shell in our first 3 games before losing to Triton Club (Wichita) in a rain storm ending about 1 AM in the morning. Then got beat by Warren Motors. Finishied 6th which was the highest ever for a Northwest Team at the time. Later played with New Era Die and York Barbell out of York PA playing in 4 more worlds. We had a great hitter in Greg (baby bull) Furman. Greg passed away at a fairly young age after an impressive career in slowpitch.
The old National Slowpitch Conference was a lot of fun while it lasted.
Great times, great memories
Dec. 28, 2009
JLD930
Men's 55
67 posts
PS: Mike Macenko is a walking encyclopedia of slowptch. If you see him at a tourney and start a conversation about the "old days" it is remarkable what he remembers
Dec. 28, 2009
JLD930
Men's 55
67 posts
PS: Mike Macenko is a walking encyclopedia of slowptch. If you see him at a tourney and start a conversation about the "old days" it is remarkable what he remembers
Dec. 28, 2009
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
Heres a list of Michigan Hall Of Famers whom I presently either play with or against; Doug Gerdes,Bobby Stewart,Darwin Dillard,Danny Parker,Tommy Hamilton,Larry Reedus,Carl Parrish,Eddie Karas,Mark Matchulat,and last but certainly not least Class of 2010 Dave (Stick) Mossioun. Congrats stick, you are a classy ballplayer and even a classier person. Most of these fellows are still tearing it up on the Senior Circuit.
Dec. 28, 2009
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
I had the honor to play with Billy Blake in Corpus this year,he lives in San Antonio and still plays,bad legs but he still hits the ball,what a guy and what a team mate.How about Rick Wheller,I believe he played for Howards,as with Dick Bartel(good golfer too)So what about the players for of Symthe Sox.Anybody know where Paul Drilling and his brother are ?A lot of really good players out there somewhere.,I believe I heard on this board that Bruce Meade is still playing with someone.Who elae is out there?
Dec. 28, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Bruce Meade played with us up to about 4 years ago. I've been told that he is considering returning.
Dec. 28, 2009
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
If Bruce comes back, hide the women and children. I hear he can still tear it up.
Dec. 28, 2009
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
Rick Wheeler-thanks #6 for reminding me. I was trying to remember his name. He hit one in Albuquerque on a baseball field that almost cleared a 6 lane road after leaving a 345 fence behind. I think it has been orbiting now for 30 years!lol I think he was playing for Capitol Insulation then. I am getting old-forgive if the memories are not exactly accurate.
Dec. 28, 2009
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
Ju25, who do you play with now? All the players from Michigan I have played with in the past, It is great hearing all of these guys are still playing sure would like to see some of the old guys at a tourney. Thats what the senior circuit is all about remembering all the old times and friendships we established with teams over all these years.
Dec. 28, 2009
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Webbie25,
I was playing in the B World Tournamnet years ago and met Rick.He is such a great guy.I told him how much I liked his TPS bat, HE GAVE IT TO ME........I mean the one he was using.I had it until about a year ago.

good luck in 2010.
Dec. 28, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
JLD930-I think the Pile Drivers from Virginia Beach won the 1971 ASA Nat'l.You guys did a heck of a job in that tourney finishing 6th....do you remember seeing Bill Gatti his team JIFFY CLUB? 4th or 5th.Bill was 13-15 9 hrs......JIFFY CLUB came back the following year 1972 & won ASA MAJOR...But something very interesting happened when the awards were handed out.After the All American team was named ,everyone was anxiously waiting to hear who would be the MVP. Everyone thought it would be a toss - up between BILL GATTI (20-28,12 hrs&28 rbi's)and COBBIE HARRISON ,both of JIFFY. Cobbie went an amazing (29-32 with 13 hrs&22 rbi's). Every body was tense until the announcer said "and now for the MVP of the 1972 ASA Mens Major,Don Arndt of the HOWARDS FURNITURE"....HOWARDS FINISHED 3rd.Bless his soul & I know he played great,but no one could ever figure that one out.
Dec. 28, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
I was just on the ISA website looking for the date of the ISA Senior Nats (thanks Donnie) and saw that Rick Sherr was just named to the ISA Hall of Fame. Congrats Rick!
By the way, the ISA Senior Nats are in Gallatin again on 07/30/2010.

Dec. 28, 2009
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
starburst23
I only play rec ball due to my financial situation. Did go to ISSA Worlds 55+ AAA (Wealth & Wisdom). Rec leagues are Remax (50+ Dearborn) competition includes Stick, Bobby Stewart, Eddie Karas,Larry Reedus & Dar Dillard. 35+ Ford league at Rotunda fields in Dearborn Team is the Sun Devils. Play with Carl Parrish and against Doug Gerdes and Eddie Karas. Also play in a 55+ Can Am morning league for Rush Trucking against Danny Parker, Tommy Hamilton, Gordie
Ferguson and Darwin Dillard. Used to play for Walsh's on the border, New Place Lounge and Remax in 40+ ball.
Dec. 28, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
ju25 and starburst23, Our Virginia Pets and Capital X-Ray teams from Virginia played against Nothdurft many times in the 35s and 40s Masters in the early 90s. I remember very well Bob Stewart, Larry Reedus and Darwin Dillard from those teams. Also, whatever happened to Mike Turk who played second base? He was one of the best hitters I've ever seen.
Dec. 28, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Ah Larry.....those were the days!!! Hope you had a great holiday!!!
Dec. 28, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Thanks, we had some great times back then! Just sorry I'm not still in NOVA to continue the fun. I saw where you guys got moved up to Major +. Good luck next year.
Dec. 28, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Yup....and I am to old to play with those young boys...
Dec. 28, 2009
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Yup....and I am to old to play with those young boys...
Dec. 28, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
AND you're younger than me! I am still playing a little 50 but at the AAA level. I also play in a "senior" league here in OKC. BUT, the minimum age is 43 so I'm spotting some of those young guys 20 years! I can still hit it pretty good but I'm in the infield most of the time now. Still love the game though!
Dec. 28, 2009
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
Thanks for stealing our basketball team.
Dec. 29, 2009
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
JIMJOES-GMAN......JIFFY CLUB, THAT'S A WHILE AGO. I PLAYED WITH TIRRABASSI ALSO, PLAYED JIFFY CLUB ALL THE TIME. IS BILL GATTI STILL PLAYING OR DID HE EXPLODE? SCILLIAN STILL CALLS ME EVERY NEW YEARS DAY.
Dec. 29, 2009
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
In 'batting' around the idea of the Worth T-4000 softball, I googled it and immediately came up with an SI aricle dated September 27, 1982 talking about the 'New Hot Softballs'. It is almost eerie about the concerns, especially to the pitchers then, and that was not senior ball. They also talked about length of games and run prduction. They also mention the 'Hot Dot' and the TN-Poly. Butch, I agree it hit like a golf ball (lol). I know I was hitting 250-300 Hrs in 150 games back then.It was fun, but the scores! We (Shallow Waterbeds/Fluid Engineering/Miller Lite from Lubbock) beat Black Walnut from Missouri once 57-42 in 5 innings-called by run rule. In the Bottom of the 5th, Dudley Copeland and I both made diving catches in the outfield to make the 15 run lead stand up and we walked off shaking hands to comments like 'your defense beat us!' No telling where that one would have ended up if we would have played 7 innnings. That 15 run lead sure didn't feel safe and it sure wasn't 'mercy' to them-they knew they had a chance to come back.
Dec. 29, 2009
JLD930
Men's 55
67 posts
jimjoes-gman. I honestly do not remember who won but it very well may have been the Pile Drivers. I believe Bert Smith was still playing with them at the time and I thought he may have been MVP. I was fortunate to make the all tourney team that year but had a few too many beers when they announced the team so don't remember who was MVP. I am surprised it is Arndt. I will have to check the scrapbook sometime. Who were you playing with? You seem to know all the teams from that era.
Dec. 29, 2009
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
Ju25 and Mr. Manassas, We came in third at the 35Over 1991, I pitched then for the Top Notch Travel Team, Ju25 I played with all the guys in Dearborn, Carl,Danny,Gordie,Doug when you see them tell them Richie said hi. I still see alot of the Virginia Pets and Capitol Xray guys at some tourneys. Playing 60's now. look forward to seeing you all this season, great post brings back alot of memories.
Dec. 29, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
JDL930- A couple of guys I played Babe Ruth Baseball with played for JIFFY & I knew them all.I was with ASA Major Industrial Champ,GE WACOS...I was refering to 1971 & 1972 Mens Major. Yes, Bert Smith was with the VA team & MVP 1971.....In 1972 Ardnt & Bill Gatti both had almost identical batting avgs ,while Cobbie Harrison outhit both of them 29-32.Ardnt got MVP while playing on the 3rd plce team...Bill still looks good & can hit the ball,he is about 57 but does not play anymore.No JIFFY players play Senior Softball.
Dec. 29, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
gman,

And Cobbie is still ugly. lol If you run into Cobbie tell him I said hi. Usually see him but missed him all last year.
Dec. 29, 2009
JLD930
Men's 55
67 posts
gman - Didn't Gatti play football in one of the defunct pro leagues for a while. He was a big man.

Al White, HT Waller, Craig Elliot, Mike Cellura,James Boyett, Charles Wright, Mighty Joe Young, Herman Rathman, Tex Collins, Rick Wheeler, Stan Harvey and my teammate Greg Fuhrman were a few other great players in that era
Dec. 29, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
Didn't Gatti play with a team from down south last year in the ISA?
Dec. 29, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
It wasnt Gatti. Had to go back to my memory bank it was Roger Wilke I saw.
Dec. 29, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
JLD,do remember JAMES BOYETT'S batting style?He didnt hold the bat on his shoulders or up & extended out.He held it down at his waist & was cocked.Yes,GATTI played pro football in an old league that only lasted a few yrs....BUTCH you saw ROGER WILT.He is lefthanded & compact like GATTI....He is the only player I know of playing Senior Ball that was on STARPATH,besides MEADE.
Dec. 30, 2009
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Roger Wilt is a teammate of mine. He is one of the smartest hitters around, imo.
Dec. 30, 2009
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
yinz guys are absolutely right about Loe Delmaestro, he was the craziest pitcher of his time and another blast from the past is his team mate.. Big Paul Tomasevich.. He could hit with the best of the guys back then using the wood bats.. they're both where they belong in the ASA HOF.. the balls he hit out ouf McGee field in the Burgh may well be still traveling.. Jimmy Messmer was ss on Marodi's team.. he was a great player in his day also.. The Snatchko bros. out of the Burgh were pretty good players of their time, doubt if any of them ever played senior ball, maybe Roger Snatchko did ????
Dec. 30, 2009
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
birdie & hitman did yinz know Big Harry that traveled with Jim's Sport Shop back in the day,, also where did yinz live in the Burgh ??????????
Dec. 30, 2009
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
VINNY LV, I spoke with one of the Snatchko's at the ISSA in Virginia a few years ago - I believe it was Roger. I remember playing against the Pittsburgh team the Snatchkos were on back in the early 70's ('72). We (Federal Wrecking out of Cabin John, MD) played in an East Coast travelling league. Other teams that I can remember were from Pittsburg, York and Connecticut. Those weekend two games on Saturday and two more on Sunday were a lot of fun. I had just started using metal bats back then. Those were the days when only the team that won the Regionals went to the ASA Nationals. Unfortunately for us, that was Greenbelt Shell.
Dec. 30, 2009
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
And despite all that DelMastro did who ever tried to hit him? Who yelled "middle's open"?

Just shows how far the game has fallen in many ways.
Dec. 30, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Vinny help a fellow Pittsburgher out, I moved to Southern California before I was 21 but while in high school I played at the Mifflin Club was told years later that some of the Maroadi's guys may have played there also they were called the Mifflin Maroadi's as I recall. I got asked to play for the US Steel team I was going to work in their parts department. I took a vacation to Southern California prior to starting the job and never came back to Pittsburgh. I never really followed up with anyone about that I was told that the team was industrial and traveled all over to play teams like Sikorsky and some of the Detroit industrial teams. Always wondered what I missed what do you know about the US Steel team if anything wonder if anyone from that team is playing senior ball.
Dec. 30, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
VINNYLV, I grew up in Lawrenceville (10Ward) on the Allegheny River. Went to Peabody till 1966. I have a hard time remembering yesterday let alone 35 years ago.To many iron citys. So Big Harry probably would know him but nothing rings a bell.Tomasevich was not playing softball when I started to play. I played baseball up until 1975 and played both that year. Thanks Harry
Dec. 30, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
gman,

Isnt Danny Williams still playing and helping coach . I believe he played for Jiffy and the Bourbons. One of the nicest guys I have played with or against and mister clutch with glove and bat.
Dec. 30, 2009
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Butch,Danny has some health issues.But he still follows his 3 favorite teams.RIVERSIDE-JIM&JOES & OG'S.Cant play anymore.He did play on KY BOURBONS but not JIFFY.The "A" team he was on was JESSE'S,arch rival of JIFFY.Joe coached JESSE'S.....RON
Dec. 31, 2009
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
can't help ya out with the U.S team Joe, but Marodi's probably played @ mifflin club..
birdie, I grew up in mt washington but I started high school @ peabody in 66.. Harry was my uncle that traveled with the guys as an enforcer back in the day.played some hoops freashman & soph yrs for stormin Norman Frye if you remember him.. I understand the Iron thing with the brain cells along with a few other goodies.. yuk,yuk. where you @ now and who you play for?? I'm playn for Titans 55 out of So Cal..maybe we can chat sometime

Double 10,, thought Roger played a little senior ball with Pgh gold team..

Dirty,, they couldn't get it by Louie even if they did try middle.. some of the things he said to guys I don't know how he wasn't always fightn his way out the parks.. but I guess thats where uncle Harry came in
Dec. 31, 2009
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
BUTCH....I REMEMBER PLAYING AGAINST DANNY IN THE OLD PRO LEAGUE, NICE GUY. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, HE ALMOST SIGNED WITH US BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE BOURBONS, WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE HIM!! THE OLD RIVERSIDE TEAM WAS A MIGHTY FINE TEAM.
Dec. 31, 2009
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
anyone know where Paul Drilling is,he was a very good usssa pitcher and could hit pretty well too.He was playing with some major team years ago and may be playing senior ball...any help ?Also had a brother who played but I can't remember his name,but we drank a ton of beer together.
Dec. 31, 2009
Sluggers wife 44
5 posts
Hey to everyone...my name is Becky Fredieu,Larry Fredieu's wife. I'm posting tonight to ask for prayer for Larry. He's been diagnosed with "suspected carcinoma" colon cancer. He's scheduled for a second colonoscopy Jan. 4 and surgery to remove the tumor Jan. 8. The first colonoscopy wasn't 100% conclusive, so his surgeon wants another to determine whether it's a malignant or benign tumor before he removes it. Please rememeber us in your prayers.
Dec. 31, 2009
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
gman,

Speaking of Starpath I tried to get Dave "Tater" Allen out of retirement last year.

We will keep Larry in our thoughts and prayers.
Dec. 31, 2009
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
Stormin Norman died last year had a long bout with cancer. He fought it for a number of years. He stayed in touch with my family up until the end.I am living in Springfield Va. I played for Northern Va. Force 55AAA and we just got moved up to Major.and 60s for VA Cavaliers AAA. The force team is going 60s next year. They are still playing ball at the Mifflin club the guys that play on HMRs 60 still play there.I do not know anything. about the Steels team. One of the Snatchko brothers is supposed to play for HMR 60s next year is what I have heard.Happy New Year to All, Harry
Dec. 31, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Birdie thanks it's been years since I thought about the Mifflin Club. I was a 17 year old when I got hooked on softball there. I remember being up on that hill overlooking the river valley and hearing those furnaces let loose shook the valley. I played with some guys from Homestead. I remember playing with the Braszo brothers Ray was a local legend because he ended up playing some with the Superbowl Steelers. I remember John Defenbaugh I think I got that right strong lefty hitter. I remember traveling with a team from the Mifflin Club to Long Island (Jones Beach) still a baby and seeing the ocean for the first time, getting thrown out of a game for wiping out a catcher and drinking and carousing. Do you remember West Field in Homestead? That was some ballpark the pro softball team played there.
Dec. 31, 2009
jim16
Men's 65
173 posts
Becky, I've seen your post and you and Larry are in my prayers. I think I've seen them all and Larry is certainly at the top of the all time great list. Getting to play a few games with him and my good buddy Chico was one of the highlights of the year. Larry really lit it up in the two tourneys I was there. The Dallas tourney had a lot of the great hitters in attendance and Larry absolutely was the "man". He is still in great shape and can play defense too. He can win this battle if anyone can. I will call Terry Perryman and Mike Macenko and get Larry on their prayer list, having two guys like that intercede is like a hot line. Jim Cary
Dec. 31, 2009
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
Having just finished treatment in July for head and neck cancer, I have a good idea where you're coming from at this time. Becky, although I don't know Larry personally, I've played against a lot of guys who know him, they all said what a great one his is.

Life has a strange way of presenting us with challenges, lots of times when we least expect it. As in the past, Larry will take this challenge head on and will come out on top. He's a fighter, those are the guys that beat this horrific desease.

We have included him in our prayers, and thoughts for a speedy recovery.
Dec. 31, 2009
Conman
Men's 50
72 posts
Becky,
I played against Larry in the 80's and 90's. I will keep Larry in my prayers and will let others who played with and against him down here in Fla know also.

God Bless
Dave (Conman) Alarcon
Jan. 1, 2010
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
I lived in Leechburg Pa. and played Ford City league to East Brady.
Also played in Lower Burrell, SOKOL Camp which was a private club with a softball field. They were one of the 1st (maybe only)to have closed circuit TV to watch a game while getting tuned (hydrated) for your game. Does anyone remember having to buy all uniforms ,balls, etc from the guy who ran the league?
Played an annual game against the Steelers at SOKOL and in one Tom Banasak struck out and everyone laughed, next time up he hit a rope that knocked a hole in the playwood fence and said now laugh!!!!!!!!!
Did anyone every play at Oliver high school in Pittsburgh, there was no grass and it was also the football field to keep dust down they sprayed used oil on the field and if it sprinkled you ended up looking like a grease monkeys rag if you hit the ground. Also a sign at the field said "NO SOL MINTZ PLAYERS ALLOWED".
Also played against Jim Kelly and his team made up of his brothers, remember Jim didn't have a strong arm by Pro Football standards but I saw him throw a PiSS rope in East Brady from the fence to a strike at the plate to get a runner out and he was only a Jr. in high school.

Hope everyone has a Blessed and Happy New Year.

The Hitman #13
Jan. 1, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
Hitman, I played at Sokol Camp one time in by career and that was with a team from Maryland called Addies. I moved to MD in the late 70s.I pretty sure that there was a sign way up on the hill where Galloway had hit a ball once. Wanted to move back and play there after I discovered the liquid refreshment stand. The Only thing that I remember about Homestead was the High Level bridge connecting Squirrel Hill with Homestead. Happy New Year, Harry
Jan. 1, 2010
Sluggers wife 44
5 posts
Jim,
Thank you for the wonderful compliments. It was about the time of the first tournament in Florida that he started having symptoms. Mike Macenko called him 2 nights ago and really encouraged him. Thank you for contacting Terry for us...and anyone else who will pray.
Curveball,
It's guys like you who give us hope that this can be beaten. Thank you for including him in your prayers. Blessings to you on your recovery.
Dave,
Thank you for praying and please do continue to spread the word. I will post the results of Monday's biopsy as soon as we know.
Jan. 3, 2010
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
Bruceinga. Can you do me a favor and when you see Roger Wilt tell him to give Richie a call, he better remember me from playing with him for quite awhile. Miss alot of the guys from the Faith team.
Jan. 3, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
sure, i'll email him. Winky started 2009 with our 60 team but had to quit because of health & other reasons. I think he will try to play league with us.
Jan. 3, 2010
starburst23
Men's 60
44 posts
BruceinGa, Thanks I miss playing with him on Faith, we had a great bunch of guys, I am playing now for a team from Virginia in the 60's, Only one Major Team here in NC (Turn Two) and they have plenty of players. See you soon on the fields. Richie
Jan. 4, 2010
Paul P
Men's 65
44 posts
Great posts, great memories. I played with Taylor Brothers back in the mid 70s to early 80s and played against some great teams, Joe Theismans Restaurant, Jerry's Catering, Howard's, etc, and the list goes on. And, I got to play with Butch17, in Florida when I grew up. Overweight 1st Baseman can play forever!!!!
Jan. 4, 2010
Paul P
Men's 65
44 posts
Great posts, great memories. I played with Taylor Brothers back in the mid 70s to early 80s and played against some great teams, Joe Theismans Restaurant, Jerry's Catering, Howard's, etc, and the list goes on. And, I got to play with Butch17, in Florida when I grew up. Overweight 1st Baseman can play forever!!!!
Jan. 4, 2010
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
Paulie,

How are things in Florida? Who are you playing with? Get a chance send me an e-mail. Hope your holidays were great.

Butch
Jan. 29, 2010
SD
Men's 50
5 posts
jimjoes-gman, I am amazed by your memory and knowledge of the past. You are blessed to have played with and or seen the best. I grew up in Long Island, moved to Norristown, PA outside of Philly when I was in High School and just turned 51 and remmeber when I was little, we'd go to Jones Beach in laet 60's, I was around 10 and met Bert Smith and Jimmy Galloway, they were friends of my dad. I talked to both of them on the phone a couple of years ago, still great guys. - There are still a lot of guys that belong in the ASA National Hall of Fame that nobody has nominated yet. I'd do it, but you have to live in that state and be a commissioner (we just got Mike Shenk elected for induction and he will go in next Nov.) But the commissioners from Alabama, Georgie, Florida should try to at least nominate Craig Elliott, Charles Wright, Dirk Androff and Mike Nye. They belong with the greats. Good luck to all you guys this year. Ask Mike Macenko, he'll tell you. respectfully, Steve Dimitry
Jan. 30, 2010
dj
32 posts
played and managed The Old A's 40 team starting in 1990, we had John Tercheria, Charlie Pierce they both played with Bam and Campbells,addded Lou Smith who also played with Bam, we later added Denny Jones and were sponsered by Dan Smith who also played in the 40's and 45's John and Charile played up until about 2 yraes ago, and Dan sponsers a major teamwith Ed Menosse who was with Bam and Campbells and started the Old A's 40 and 50' Teams before teaming up with Dan
Thanks for starting this post, those were some great times
Dennis James
Prime Time 60's
Jan. 31, 2010
jim16
Men's 65
173 posts
I just recd an update on Larry Fredieu. Larry's biopsy was positive, he underwent colon surgery and doctors say they fell they got it all. Approximately 11 inches was removed and the outlook is very positive. Larry will undergo chemo to be sure its all gone and radiation is also possible. So, it was bad news and good news and if anyone can totally beat it, its Larry. He has a wonderful loving family and has so many friends including the softball community who are praying for him. He is truly blessed. Becky, I spoke with Chico and he shared this with me.
Feb. 2, 2010
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Steve Dimitri,what a pleasure to meet you.You are the "encyclopedia" of softball.I think only the seniors that have always been "tuned in'would know who you are.As far as my knowledge, I always watched the "big boys" years ago.I played on A & B teams ,but had friends on Major & Super Major teams.I played in the old Tullahoma Tn. Tournaments many times & went to the Conway Twitty to follow Starpath or anywhere else they were playing if it was convenient....Any one remember Joey Raby ? He used to amaze me because he was about 6' tall & about 170 & could hit the ball as far as the large guys.How about Clemente's out of N Carolina.They had a pitcher that did all kinds of antics.He had a "laughing box" in his back pocket that he would engage while the pitch was on its way to the batter.Then,he had some Dr Spock ears that he would wear while pitching.And he would stand on 2nd & run toward the mound,do a flip land back on his feet & release the ball.I dont know what his name was.
Feb. 2, 2010
the wood
1085 posts
Joey Raby was an infielder with Howard & Carroll's... dark complexion, good player. We played against them in 78-79. I wouldn't say that he could it as far as the big guys but he did hit HRs.
I believe that the pitcher you mention was/is Bob Lorria, who also pitched for some Michigan teams. We played him in Petersburg, VA, in 82. Our catcher hit him in the chest with a line drive... on a 'no pitch'... he wasn't real popular with other teams but he was a showman.
Bob Woodroof
Feb. 2, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Not only could Joey Raby hit, he had a great arm. When the played a local team here in Marietta, he caught a fly ball at the 300' fence and threw out runner tagging from third base.
Feb. 2, 2010
the wood
1085 posts
Bruce, he may well have been an outfielder... or he played both... the memory isn't what it once was. Tony Cloninger was their 3B when we played them. There were several guys back then that played both infield and outfield on their teams... Curtis Williams, Donnie Wood, etc.
Joey's manager/sponsor was Dave Carroll, he of the Bombat fame. Don Clatterbough was also on that team... with Gene Jones, Mickey Morrison, James Boyette, etc.
BW
Feb. 2, 2010
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Bob, If memory serves, Clatta hit LEADOFF for H&C!
Feb. 2, 2010
butch17
Men's 55
415 posts
One of the teams Bobby Lorria pitched for was Lansing Glass and either him or his wife would scout the next team to play and chart pitches(location), what pitch the hitter hit or let go, where each hitter hit and keep a copy in his back pocket for reference.

He did some crazy things on the mound.
Run at hitters, talk to them, light his glove on fire, crazy hats, somersaults and on and on.
Feb. 2, 2010
the wood
1085 posts
LL:
I'm not really certain that he did or not... we saw them a couple of times in 78 and, I could be wrong on this, I thought that he hit 6-8 for them. Boyette hit 2nd I believe... Dave Carroll hit last. But then I forgot that Joey Raby played outfield, too.
Butch:
Lorria's cousin played with us in CA (Bruce Loria)... yes, they spelled it differently... they were nothing alike. We only saw him the one time (Bob) and he was playing for a team called Southwestern (MI) if I'm not mistaken... he would approach the hitter and read off his stats so somebody had to be scouting for him. Call me old fashion but I liked the style of Buddy Slater, Ricky Pinto, Don Arndt, Mike Parrot, Chuck Drewitz, Mickey McCarty, and such more than Lorria... even Gordon Wheeler from Campbell Carpets. But Lorria did have a pattern of success... not as great as Slater, Arndt and Pinto though.
BW
Feb. 3, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
OK,
Buddy Slater,I know your out there somewhere !
Budy was a great pitcher,he played with Howards,I believe Steeles and maybe even Smythe Sox.I know Danny Williams played with him on one of these teams.Does anyone know where Buddy is and if he his still playing.
For a thin pitcher,he could hit the ball out of the park and was a really good defensive pitcher too!.
Feb. 3, 2010
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
BUTCH....YOU FORGOT TO MENTION, BOB L. WOULD SPIT HIS FALSE TEETH OUT AT YOU TOO.
Feb. 3, 2010
jim16
Men's 65
173 posts
Bob Lauria was certainly a great pitcher and pioneer of USSSA pitching style. Buddy Slater is the greatest of all time. He played senior ball with our SAWTRE team in 1996. He lives just outside San Antonio and was part of the Texas Connection, Bill Ferguson, Micke McCarty, Dick Bartel, Richard Willborn and Billy Blake, all from around San Antonio.
Feb. 3, 2010
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Bob and Jim, Buddy Slater and Rick Pinto were two examples of the role smaller players could have in big time softball. I played against Louria the same year BW was there with Capitol (1982). Louria's team, Southwestern, I believe, knocked our Technitrux team out of Virginia out of the tourney. If my memory is correct (and I wouldn't bet on it), we lost 2-1!
Feb. 22, 2011
dynapep2
1 posts
my pops saw me play at ISA tournament last weekend and he said it reminded him of whe he used to play. any body remember him? jimmy williams from GA played for billy-dares that is all i know. i remember seeing him play when i was little but only remember him and the umps always arguing hahaha
Feb. 23, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
I played with New Construction and Starpath back then. I know Vern Hensley is still playing for OKI Softball out of Cinn. 50+ Major Plus. I am playing for them this year as well. I know Bruce Meade is still playing in leauges down in Bradenton Fl. Don't think he is traveling yet. Word is he will after her retires from his day job.
Feb. 23, 2011
stick8
1299 posts
Mario, don't think I know you but I look forward to playing with OKI this season. Last year was kind of a bummer year for us but I've been told our pick ups are pretty strong so hopefully we'll do some damage.
Feb. 23, 2011
stick8
1299 posts
For those of you who know Bobby Lou I'm sure you would agree he was one of a kind. We're from the same area but I only knew him casually because he was an A-Major player whereas I was just a scrub class C player. One day after his team (Glass out of Indiana) thoroughly smashed our team in a local major tournament he called me over to show me something. He pulled out a file on me!! It was finitely detailed about how I hit in certain situations, where I hit to, what I do with runenrs on base, etc etc. I couldn't believe an A-Major pitcher like him would even bother to chart a scrub like me!! And he showed me even more detailed files on every player he ever played against!! The man should have been a major league baseball scout.
Feb. 23, 2011
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Mario, on Starpath,Gary Jones , Dave Elder & Dave Johnson are personal friends of mine. Dennis Pierce & JC Phelps of "New Const." also. What pos. did you play & what is your name. I forgot to mention Hank Bassett. Tks buddy.
Feb. 24, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
I played 1st base mostly. Played for New from 86-89. Played for Starpath in 90 and Starpath/Le-alco in 91.My name is Dale Mayo. I know all those guys as well as Hank Bassett. As a matter of fact I been trying to track Hank down. Is he still in Monticello, Ky.?
Feb. 24, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
Stick8 what position do you play?
Feb. 24, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
Sluggers wife, tell Larry that I'll be praying for a total healing and recovery. I played with Larry on Starpath/Le-alco. Name is Dale Mayo.
Feb. 24, 2011
stick8
1299 posts
Mario,
I'm in the outfield
Feb. 24, 2011
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
MARIO , here is Hanks email---hbcon@windstream.net....His only involvment with softball now is co-ordinating the Kentucky Softball Hall Of Fame. That connected us in 2009...Ron
March 2, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
Sluggers wife-our prayers are also with you.
Patti and Mark Weber
Desperados
Aug. 28, 2011
chulodanny44
4 posts
im from the bronx and was wondering why the new york clippers only played on season and if there are any photos souvenirs uni etc left of the new york clippers? Did they play at old mt vernon stadium?
Aug. 28, 2011
sjuhoops
123 posts
chulodanny44
I played for NY Clippers for that one year. If memory serves me correctly(very questionable)our franchise did not draw many spectators. Sometime during that year some players decided to leave and jumped to other teams. I believe a team call Jet Trophy's filled in to finish out the season. Some of us stayed and finished out the year. We did play at the Mt. Vernon stadium. I still have a NY Clipper banner thanks to Ron Danoski who played for Milwalkee. I may have some of the uniform shirts still packed away but I am not positive. Did a relative of yours play on that team? Most of the original team were from Long Island. I know Lou Russo was from the Bronx. Not sure of any others. Not sure if you follow college hoops or not but my brother is head coach at Iona. Hope this helps.

Hank Cluess
Aug. 28, 2011
chulodanny44
4 posts
Wow small world Tim cluess is you brother that's pretty cool. No family members on the team actually learned of the clippers through steve dimitry sight while I was searching for a teamm to play for. I was curious as to how somebody would break into big time travel softball and what kind of money did you guys make playin? What was it like To play at Mt Vernon stadium was it run down back then? What was Joe Galloway like?
Aug. 28, 2011
ill41
Men's 60
11 posts
I played with Tom Spahn and Charlie Baumgartner in the 1990's.Tom was the first player picked in the American Professional Slo-Pitch League.Charlie also played in that league.Great teammates.Also played against Dan Prater,Bernie Carroll,Brian Schultz Jim Cushing and Al VanGampler.All members of the USSSA Hall of Fame.
Aug. 28, 2011
sjuhoops
123 posts
Mr. Galloway was actually Jim. He was one of the nicest guys on the planet. I started playing with him towards the end of his career. He was the best all around player I played with. Great home run hitter, great line drive hitter and could play anywhere you needed him. Always a gentleman. As far as salary if I remember we made a few hundred on the weekends and our transportation and rooms was covered when we went on the road. I have no idea about big time travel at this time. There is a young man who lives here in Vegas that does play big time. He may have his own web site. Try Denny Crine. I know he is sponsored by Miken and has his own model bat. Mt. Vernon was very old at that time. We could never figure out why they played there as I said before most of us were from the island. We always thought Jones Beach would have been ideal. Good luck finding a travel team.

H.C.
Aug. 28, 2011
chulodanny44
4 posts
Wow small world Tim cluess is you brother that's pretty cool. No family members on the team actually learned of the clippers through steve dimitry sight while I was searching for a teamm to play for. I was curious as to how somebody would break into big time travel softball and what kind of money did you guys make playin? What was it like To play at Mt Vernon stadium was it run down back then? What was Joe Galloway like?
Aug. 29, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Michigan based class A teams from yesteryear, Synders, Clementes, Southwestern Industries, Miller Of Redford, Miller of Warren, Herc's, Trailblazers to name a few. Class A states had 30 plus teams back then. I don't think they have 30 nationwide right now.
Aug. 29, 2011
chulodanny44
4 posts
@sju...i'm surprised they didn't have your guys play at downing stadium. it mustve been fun thanks for the info. did you guys get any sort of media coverage? i'm sure if you guys played at hofstra you may have drawn better...mt vernon is more of a basketball football town although ken singleton is from there
Aug. 31, 2011
neck10
498 posts
saw bob steward,stve smith & ed karas from southwest industries last weekend in lansing
Aug. 31, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
I taked to Eddie, but missed the other two.
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