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Jan. 1, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Knee Pain
Has anyone with bad knees (knee pain) try injection with SYNVIC ONE?
Has it help with the pain?
According to my Doc "In knees the joint fluid (called synovial fluid) can break down and not provide the cushioning your knee needs. Synvisc-One supplements your knee fluid to relieve the pain and improve the knee joint's natural shock absorbing abilitied".
Jan. 1, 2010
armiho211
Men's 70
410 posts
#45-- i had my rheumatologist inject 3 SYNVISC INJECTIONS into each knee back in feb 2009. i had been taking ibuprofen 800's during tournaments to be able to run . however, after the tournaments i had terrible pain in the knees for the next few days. since i am pretty much bone on bone, i decided to try the SYNVISC INJECTIONS. they do help. my knees are a little sore after the tournaments BUT NOTHING like before. i also am trying to keep up pinch running down to bare minimums. if you decide to do it, the DOC will give you one shot to begin with, to make sure there wont be a reaction. he sticks the needle in under the kneecap, he moves it around a little to make sure it's the right area. i had mine done over 6 weeks. take a small towel to bite on, as they are not painless. do not tighten the knee muscles, OR arch your back, BOTTOM LINE: THEY DID HELP, they are suppose to last 6 months to a year, that's the reason i am trying to curtail my running as much as possible, which may affect your stamina. any more questions, call me cell 469-644-7719 or email flarmijo@sbcglobal.net. frank
Jan. 1, 2010
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
I've had the three set shots three times since Oct 2005 and the first set lasted 22 months, the second 24 months and I'm 5 months on the third. They have really worked for me. My Doc said if half of his patients had results 30% as good as mine he would be happy. They don't work for everybody and for some it takes several months to really know. Since I was nearly bone on bone I also went to the DonJoy unloader and I think it has also helped to lengthen the effective time of the shots. In reverse of armiho211 having pain during the shots, I have had none and leave with a bandaid over the needle hole, which is gone about an hour later. My Doc also strongly suggests ice for 20-30 minutes every day for a week after the shots. I also ice everyday when I play more than one game.
Good Luck,
The Hitman #13
Jan. 2, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
armiho211, hitman,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm schedule for my first injection this month and will be playing in the TOC next month.
Ross #45
High Street Bucs 55
Jan. 2, 2010
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
Ross, call John, it gets them all the time. LMK if you need his number.
Happy new year! I just saw the ortho for knee pain, (lot of running in the outfield)
and I think i'm going to get the Don Joy unloader for this year. It helps that I work for them. Or maybe just start catching, I hear there is a shortage of them in senior ball.

Pat #2
Diamond Fever:)
Jan. 2, 2010
hammerhead6
1 posts
Ross-let me know how it works out,I
been thinking about trying that also
BG
Jan. 2, 2010
diehard
Men's 55
245 posts
Hey Ross,

I had synvisc injections back in 2006. It did not help me because my arthritis was so severe. It is made to replace the synovial fluid that you have in your joints naturally. The shots are good for around 6 mos.. Big John may have more info to give. I also had unloader braces and they helped some. But since my surgery, Tibial Osteotomy, I need no shots and only wear neoprene braces as well as ibuprofen when I play. But surgery was my last resort after I had exhausted all other remedies. Good Luck. Hey Wagon, you don't have to worry about keeping your mouth closed or running on the balls of your feet when you catch. Hey BG, get you arm done!LOL Happy New Year to All.
Jan. 2, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2663 posts
I've never had knee problems until last week. From Monday until Friday I couldn't move my left foot up and down without have pain just below my knee. Tuesday I wore a neopreme support but that didn't help. Friday morning it was fine. I can't remember injuring it so I just thought it was a pinched nerve.
Anyone else have this?
Jan. 2, 2010
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
OK Bruce here's the skinny about my knees.You are getting a calling card from your knees.They are saying "HELLO"....I had a total knee done in Feb.I was playing again in June....I did & still do the synvec shots(3)....They take about a month to react...I did not play in 2008 because of pain...My doc will only give them or cortisone once a year.He says injections must be staggered, time wise.....He told me to not play ball again and the knee will last 15 yrs...The other knee is also a candidate....They both hurt Monday and Tuesday after a weekend tournament.Only way I can play is with pain pills.How many guys go with this routine?....Bottom line-,you will be fine for quite a while.....PS,my doc says anyone with total knee replacement and plays sports is crazy.It is dangerous to go back in the new knee and do repairs...RON
Jan. 2, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2663 posts
Thanks Ron, I'm hoping I won't need a replacement for a long time. There are about 6 or 7 guys in our league that have had hit done recently and they are doing fine. My mother had both of her's done about 4 yrs ago
Good luck with them.
Jan. 3, 2010
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
Bruce,
It's called getting old!!!!!!!!!!!!
Along with what my Ortho Doc. calls any inflamation in or around the knee causes trama from the knee to the ankle and that's where all these odd pains/aches come from. I can tell when I'm ready for another set of shots in the knee by the aches I have from the knee down, usually nothing very much noticeable in the knee but down the leg.

The Hitman #13
Jan. 3, 2010
RG
19 posts
I had the Synvic One shot in my right knee in June and it helped a lot. They tell me to get shots as long as it helps, because the next step would be a knee replacement. I just started having knee problems with my left knee the start of 2009 and thought this shot would help, but it did not help at all. I did have surgery right after the world tournament in Phoenix on my left knee. That has helped a lot. I am also playing in the TOC in Feb. My guess is depending on what kind of problem you are having with you knee it may or may not help.
Jan. 3, 2010
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
I have had the injections 4-5 times and while they do help some, if your arthritis is as bad as mine, it is not significant help. My only resolution is a new knee and I want to put that off as long as possible. I take 800mg motrin and 750mg vicodan about every 4 hours during tourneys.
Jan. 3, 2010
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
If it helps any of you guys, and I don't recommend to anyone how I did this but the priciple is a sound one, to lose weight. I have had osteoarthritis for probably 20 years, taking Glucosomine Chondroitin for probably the past 5 or 6 years and having annual injections.

I lost 40 pounds last winter after a bout of oral cancer and the associated chemo and radiation for 2 months. Now, even after putting 26 of the pounds back on, my knees feel better than they have in decades. I still take the pills, and ice them after every game, squats workout, and agility workout as a precaution, but no more injections and they feel great.
Jan. 3, 2010
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
I totally agree, weight is a huge factor and I shouldn't have said my only option was a new knee. I am currently changing my lifestyle (not a diet) in order to help me lose weight, keep it off and keep playing ball. I started out at 250 lbs and have lost 12 pounds so far and already feel a difference. I will probably still take the pills and ice all the time as it all helps. However, everything I have been told from doctors and therapists is to avoid squats above all the knee exercises.
Jan. 3, 2010
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Pitcherman, I have heard that from doctors too, though most of the ones who told me never squated themselves.

I have squated for 25 years, still do, and maybe I have just been fortunate but my squats now are better than they have been in years. Probably due to the much-improved knees, probably due to the weight loss.

I am certainly in no position to tell you what will work for you knees, only know that squating has not bothered mine. Now I also do leg presses, extensions, and curls so perhaps that combination of a fairly well-rounded leg program as contributed.
Jan. 4, 2010
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
for the guys who might need to do replacement.one of my outfielders had both done(5'9"-- 175 lbs)and has no prol with his knees.he still runs real good(does cr'ing a lot even).i also know a few others who have had just one done,and all were back to playing in about 6 months after wards,mind you they are not at full strength but still can get out there.

this be the only time i'll agree with dipty,you need to work legs out .if your legs go your game goes.

for my knee pain,besides the work out,i also take 1 aleve and 1 asprin in the morning and before i go to bed at nite.
Jan. 4, 2010
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
sad pup, it is not even the first time, how can it be the only?
Jan. 5, 2010
stick8
1295 posts
Legs are the key in most all sports. Think about it, when your playing ball every movement you make on the field starts with your legs. If you have weak legs the rest of your game will eventually break down. Like Dirty, I do squats and almost every other leg exercise 1 of the 5 days a week I train. In fact I kil my legs!! It's important to use a lighter weight so you can do the exercise correctly. Using heavy weights can do much more damage to your joints and muscles than good. It's important to keep in mind that well conditioned legs aren't going to make you a speed demon--your either fast or your not. What they can do is give you a better first step or a quick jump, which could be the difference in getting to a ball in the field or taking that extra base.
Jan. 5, 2010
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
stick, I am with you. Did a leg workout after work today, including squats. Will ice my knees shortly, and be good to go to play indoor games Thursday night.
Jan. 5, 2010
stick8
1295 posts
Dirty, I'll do mine Thursday. Six or seven different exercises--takes about 45 min. I officiate hs basketball on friday night so any muscle soreness will go away with the running.
Jan. 13, 2010
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
#45inMd........had a torn meniscus repaired last May by Dr. Scott Powell, a founding member of Sha Na Na. You remember them. Went to Dalton for SPA just after getting a Synvisc One shot and felt great. Just got another injection in December. I also take Voltaren, anti-inflammatory. I just played in Menifee last week end and feel great. I think you will be happy with the results.
Jan. 13, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Thanks salio2k glad you are doing good. I will be getting my shot next week.

BG i'll call you after I get it.
Jan. 16, 2010
Sustainable
4 posts
If you have pain, MRI is very good idea so Doctor can see the problem. (X-ray will not show the problem). In my case, miniscus was torn and it had to be corrected. Doctor did not recommend any use of Syn-Visc, but would use it if the synovial fluid were missing causing bone on bone problems.
Jan. 18, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Sustainable, Thanks but I did get a MRI and X-Rays and a second opinion
Jan. 21, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Got the shot today. so far so good. felt a little funny first hour. by the time i got home felt good. climbed steps first time in months without sharp pain. doctor said i can start playing right now. i will update soon.

BG can not find your number call me.

Ross HSBs55
Jan. 22, 2010
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
Ross, who are you trying to kid, it was probably the first time in years you have been upstairs without an escalator.
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