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Discussion: BRING YOUR LONGJOHNS TO THE TOC

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Feb. 7, 2010
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
BRING YOUR LONGJOHNS TO THE TOC
HOLY CRAP....IS IT COLD IN FLORIDA!! THE WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN AND N.E. TEAMS WILL FEEL RIGHT AT HOME DOWN HERE!! SORRY I LEFT ARIZONA....BRING YOUR WARM UNIFORMS!!
Feb. 7, 2010
J R
179 posts
I just went back and put in some long pants. I am arriving Tuesday from warm Texas
Feb. 7, 2010
Hacker
Men's 65
41 posts
Showers are in the forecast for both Friday & Saturday with the highs at 65 and the low at 48!

I don't think I'll need to pack my summer shorts!
Feb. 8, 2010
4Four4
Men's 60
82 posts
Ha! The dome we practice in never gets to 60. Most mornings you can see your breath but most of us still wear shorts. The TOC in Florida will still be a treat for many of us from the N.E. Good luck to all - arrive safely - play hard.
DH #4
Feb. 8, 2010
J R
179 posts
We are arriving Tuesday was hoping to get in some swings but looks bad. We are coming to Miami and then driving in.looks like the outdoor banquet friday will be frosty.We are driving back to Miami then going to Cuba with SSUSA
Feb. 8, 2010
Rip
20 posts
It was 9 here yesterday and 14 today so we are still bringing our shorts!
Feb. 9, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
Might want to bring along an umbrella too.
Doppler radar isn't encouraging.
Feb. 9, 2010
lemons
Men's 65
302 posts
The temperature range here in Indianapolis will be from below zero to about 25 degrees with more snow forecast. I'll try to tough it out at The TOC. :>)
Feb. 9, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
Cold balls (the ones you hit) = high possibility of many broken bats, and further hit balls.
Feb. 10, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
I was out there in Lakeland 2 weeks ago and it was the only nice week this year. Even 60's isn't too bad, though. Beats weather the country over. GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!! RIGHT!!!
Feb. 10, 2010
diehard
Men's 55
245 posts
Global warming is when the heat of the sun gets warm enough to melt the polar ice caps. Which in turn float glacial ice into the warm currents, such as the gulf stream here on the East coast, lowering the temperature of the currents. These currents are what dictates the climate in your area. If that current temp drops only 3 - 5 degrees it can result in dramatic climate changes. So the temperature actually goes down not up.
Feb. 10, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
Radar shows its clear now in the Ft. Area w\ only some light stuff in the Tampa area.
Just hope it stays that way.
Feb. 11, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
It has happened many times in the past.What makes people so sure that is is man-caused this time? There simply is not enough evidence one way or the other, if you really study it. I'm tired of the political agendas that say they 'know' either way. Having said that, of course we should get to work cleaning up our environment with incentives to do so (since we won't any other way).
Have fun at the TOC. My job is keeping me away!
Feb. 11, 2010
diehard
Men's 55
245 posts
Webbie, who said anything about being man-caused? Who mentioned politics? And you are right, it happened during the time of the American Revolution, in a period called the mini- ice age. What I wrote was not a political statement nor an agenda, just a fact. Nor was it an attempt to mock you for your statement. And there is tons of evidence to show what controls our climates. And none of it has to do with politics! You better stick to softball!
Feb. 11, 2010
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
And if we were in a global cooling period, the glaciers would remain frozen at the poles, the warm currents would not be iced, and we would have balmy, warmer than normal weather???
Feb. 11, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
I have read many articles on Global Warming and have never read your theory, Diehard.
Every scientist who has a theory on Global Warming, including NASA, say when the earth temps increase it does cause the Polar Ice caps to melt, the only negative to this is higher sea levels that could potentially flood coastal flooding.
If you think about it, the melting of the Ice is a gradual melting and the water would blend in with the much warmer ocean water as it disipates.
However, when this increase of temp occurs it does cause more water to evaporate and to eventually come back down as rain or in the case of cold weather areas, snow, so basically what is happening is warmer weather causes more evaporation and ultimately more precipitation.
Or so it is written.
All I really know is its been very wet here in So Cal and very white East of the Mississippi.
Think Green!!
Feb. 12, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
Lots of views-sorry, did not mean to make this a political debate.Die hard, it depends what 'spin' you read. Maybe we should all stick to softball. You guys are gonna be real cold this weekend. Wish I could have worked out the job bugs to get there. (12" in Dallas?????)
Feb. 12, 2010
diehard
Men's 55
245 posts
Hey Web,
We all have our own viewpoints on all matters, including softball, that we can agree or disagree on. That's what makes this such a great country. But I agree with you let's try to stick to softball, and making the one thing that we all love to do, playing softall, enjoyable to play! Here's to you and all of our Senior Softball friends, have a great season!
Feb. 12, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Good idea Diehard! Time to get to it and play some ball.
Did I mention its NOW clear and 70 here in So Cal? =)
Feb. 12, 2010
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
There's no reasonable doubt that
if there was ANY possible to probable
chance that the environment,
any environment could be damaged/threatened by anything
that its constituents are doing
then this would be something to suspend
if not abort for the sake of the world community and its survival.
Look at us producing Nuclear waste
without the notion of its disposal,
the pollution of the seas which is a threatening to horrible given
and the terrible air we all must breathe in most to all
of the cities of the world.
These color the context from which
all its phenomena draw true meaning
and can teach us profound and simple
lessons about ourselves
if in fact, it's not too late already.

There's an abuse of intellect that allows anything to be advanced
because you can't technically,
absolutely or officially prove
anything's happening or not happening.
That's a function of sophomore
philosophy, is dangerous in the hands of the ignorant and the morbidly
self interested.

Of course there's Global Warming
coming from the greenhouse effect
that is threatening all of us
as we speak and we, as a group, like
the gang that couldn't shoot straight
can't get it together to do anything
directly to save ourselves.
That's the sad truth that makes people
want to kill the messenger
but it doesn't change a thing.
We are munching and crunching along
without reason like lemings
marching to the sea.
Bad news doesn't sell papers
and blows everyone's high
so we don't talk about the elephant
in the next room as it will only bring us down.
Better glad then sad?
Probably not.
Feb. 12, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
That you Dr Sigmund Freud, your psycho babble is noted.
Just the opposite Joe, Bad news does sell papers, sensationalize anything and it becomes news worthy.
You are right about Man, he will never save himself, because he is too self absorbed trying to eek out a living, to pay attention to his surroundings.
We need to start another thread to discuss global and environmental issues.
Sorry for getting off subject again.
Feb. 12, 2010
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Tabloid bad news isn't real bad news
E because it's always about someone else.
It's function is to distract us from the real bad news than no one wants to talk about or hear.
You're comment was right on time.
It's time for real character, E
and for truth telling regardless of how
cool or uncool we'll appear.
Real problems need real solutions
and common sense like
good bats and balls forever
and free defensive subbing rules.
Feb. 12, 2010
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
As einstein says: “Real problems need real solutions and common sense...”

Real problem: current composite bats are the hottest in the history of softball. They aren’t just “good bats” but “super bats” that make home run hitters out of declining doubles hitters, that make fence-reaching hitters out of singles hitters. The results of such offensive firepower that has far surpassed things like human reflexes, pitcher quality, infielder’s defense has been to make a mockery of the game I have loved for half a century.

It has reduced outfielders to observers as they watch normal hitters sail balls over their heads and over the fence.

It has changed infielders to statues as the ball whizzes by before they can complete their first step.

It has resulted in pitchers armoring up and backing up as statistics show that the ball speed is such that a blow to the wrong area on a pitcher could be fatal.

It has befuddled managers and players as the time-honored qualities of excellent defense, good base-running, and strategy have become so negated and unbalanced in the face of such offensive firepower. For example, there is no outfielder who can defend the 350’ popup that sails over the fence, a rare pitcher who can stop a 90 mph line drive up the middle, and few infielders who can snare a screaming shot through the hole, even standing 80 feet away.

It has demeaned older fields with “only” 300 foot fences as balls sail into parking lots and playgrounds, and some parks and cities try to ban such bats in the interest of safety for non-players in the area.

It has resulted in the expenditure of millions of dollars for overpriced bats as players struggle to achieve some equity in offense.

Common sense solution: ban the hot composite bats (my choice) or deaden the ball to return the game to one of balance between offense, defense, base running, and strategy, the game that grew more and more popular for 40 years before the current imbalance.

We don’t see the decline of softball as much in senior ball, because with better health, medicine, and diet, more and more seniors can extend their playing years. But parks directors will tell you of the decline in softball participation by younger males as the game attracts mostly the studly offensive players and less and less the skilled defensive players and smart players whose skills are no longer as valuable.
Feb. 12, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Really couldnt comment on that one Joe, I dont read the Tabloids.
We as a society, especially in this economy, just dont want to deal with issues that are deemed too heavy.
Most people would rather keep their heads in the sand and maintain their personal staus quo.

Lets not change our game any further, let maintain some simbalance of the sport we started playing all those years ago. No or limited Free Defensive Subbing!
Feb. 12, 2010
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Did someone say something against
lively bats and balls
I could sworn I heard someone
going on with some loser/lost argument
about why it's OK to bring our game
down to his level of his/her comfort and capability.
But, I must have been mistaken
because when I looked
to where the sounds were coming from
no one was there.
I'm starting to hear and see people
that aren't really there.
God, I'm getting old.
Feb. 12, 2010
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Did someone again try to defend super-charged bats and lively balls to the virtual exclusion of the skills of defense, base running, and strategy? Must be someone with a one-dimensional approach trying to bring down the game to his level of comfort and capability. Next he will be arguing for free defensive subbing rules to cover the inadequacies of big boppers who can’t play the balanced game of softball.
Feb. 13, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
I have just read an article that expounds the theory that global warming and an increase in greenhouse gases is what is behind the technology of the hot bats. The bats absorb the carbon dioxide (CO2)-and transforms it into carbon quintoxide (CO5). This process takes place only during contact with a softball, which explains why it takes 50-70 hits for the bats to reach their optimum liveliness. The more carbon dioxide there is in the air, the more carbon quintoxide that can be produced by the bats. Word is the next advance will be a bat that produces carbon tetraoxide, which after exactly 77 cuts will reach a BPA of 1.62 and effectively end defensive softball as we know it. Ain't technology grand!!!!!:-)
Feb. 13, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
By the way, the last time we saw Einstein, he was pacing off his latest 850 foot home run with the carbon tet bat and trying to figure out how to make them even hotter!! :-)
Feb. 13, 2010
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Mark,
That was fun.
I'm in the process of cutting a deal
with a company selling anti-gravity
or what we like to call'em,
"Moon balls" and smart,
NASA-like bats, with trajectory control.
capable of hitting ANY ball
1000 feet with pin point accuracy.
A great chance to 'get off'
and take out that pesky neighbor's barking chihuahua that's been keeping you up at night.

Feb. 13, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
Hey, Joe-great comeback! A ballplayer friend, Tom Ryanczak here in Albuquerque, says he met you in PHX and you are really a nice guy.I hope I do get to meet you in person sometime.
Feb. 13, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
how can we go from BRING YOUR LONGJOHNS TO THE TOC to global warming ?Can we try to stay on track !
Feb. 13, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
I don't think anyone on our team has touched a bat since last October in Phoenix. We would never consider going to this, not that anyone cares about that. Maybe moving it to at least the middle of March would help so teams can get a little practice in before playing?
Feb. 13, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
Sorry, #6, my fault. I threw in a crack about how cold it was in Fla. and got it sidetracked. But, I still think it was fun ribbing Einstein about a CO2 laden 'hot' bat.
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