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| Feb. 7, 2010 CRUSADERVB Men's 70 275 posts | BRING YOUR LONGJOHNS TO THE TOC HOLY CRAP....IS IT COLD IN FLORIDA!! THE WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN AND N.E. TEAMS WILL FEEL RIGHT AT HOME DOWN HERE!! SORRY I LEFT ARIZONA....BRING YOUR WARM UNIFORMS!! |
| Feb. 7, 2010 J R 251 posts | I just went back and put in some long pants. I am arriving Tuesday from warm Texas |
| Feb. 7, 2010 Hacker Men's 75 52 posts | Showers are in the forecast for both Friday & Saturday with the highs at 65 and the low at 48! I don't think I'll need to pack my summer shorts! |
| Feb. 8, 2010 4Four4 Men's 60 87 posts | Ha! The dome we practice in never gets to 60. Most mornings you can see your breath but most of us still wear shorts. The TOC in Florida will still be a treat for many of us from the N.E. Good luck to all - arrive safely - play hard. DH #4 |
| Feb. 8, 2010 J R 251 posts | We are arriving Tuesday was hoping to get in some swings but looks bad. We are coming to Miami and then driving in.looks like the outdoor banquet friday will be frosty.We are driving back to Miami then going to Cuba with SSUSA |
| Feb. 8, 2010 Rip 20 posts | It was 9 here yesterday and 14 today so we are still bringing our shorts! |
| Feb. 9, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Might want to bring along an umbrella too. Doppler radar isn't encouraging. |
| Feb. 9, 2010 lemons Men's 65 323 posts | The temperature range here in Indianapolis will be from below zero to about 25 degrees with more snow forecast. I'll try to tough it out at The TOC. :>) |
| Feb. 9, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Cold balls (the ones you hit) = high possibility of many broken bats, and further hit balls. |
| Feb. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | I was out there in Lakeland 2 weeks ago and it was the only nice week this year. Even 60's isn't too bad, though. Beats weather the country over. GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!! RIGHT!!! |
| Feb. 10, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | Global warming is when the heat of the sun gets warm enough to melt the polar ice caps. Which in turn float glacial ice into the warm currents, such as the gulf stream here on the East coast, lowering the temperature of the currents. These currents are what dictates the climate in your area. If that current temp drops only 3 - 5 degrees it can result in dramatic climate changes. So the temperature actually goes down not up. |
| Feb. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Radar shows its clear now in the Ft. Area w\ only some light stuff in the Tampa area. Just hope it stays that way. |
| Feb. 11, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | It has happened many times in the past.What makes people so sure that is is man-caused this time? There simply is not enough evidence one way or the other, if you really study it. I'm tired of the political agendas that say they 'know' either way. Having said that, of course we should get to work cleaning up our environment with incentives to do so (since we won't any other way). Have fun at the TOC. My job is keeping me away! |
| Feb. 11, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | Webbie, who said anything about being man-caused? Who mentioned politics? And you are right, it happened during the time of the American Revolution, in a period called the mini- ice age. What I wrote was not a political statement nor an agenda, just a fact. Nor was it an attempt to mock you for your statement. And there is tons of evidence to show what controls our climates. And none of it has to do with politics! You better stick to softball! |
| Feb. 11, 2010 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | And if we were in a global cooling period, the glaciers would remain frozen at the poles, the warm currents would not be iced, and we would have balmy, warmer than normal weather??? |
| Feb. 11, 2010 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | I have read many articles on Global Warming and have never read your theory, Diehard. Every scientist who has a theory on Global Warming, including NASA, say when the earth temps increase it does cause the Polar Ice caps to melt, the only negative to this is higher sea levels that could potentially flood coastal flooding. If you think about it, the melting of the Ice is a gradual melting and the water would blend in with the much warmer ocean water as it disipates. However, when this increase of temp occurs it does cause more water to evaporate and to eventually come back down as rain or in the case of cold weather areas, snow, so basically what is happening is warmer weather causes more evaporation and ultimately more precipitation. Or so it is written. All I really know is its been very wet here in So Cal and very white East of the Mississippi. Think Green!! |
| Feb. 12, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Lots of views-sorry, did not mean to make this a political debate.Die hard, it depends what 'spin' you read. Maybe we should all stick to softball. You guys are gonna be real cold this weekend. Wish I could have worked out the job bugs to get there. (12" in Dallas?????) |
| Feb. 12, 2010 diehard Men's 55 246 posts | Hey Web, We all have our own viewpoints on all matters, including softball, that we can agree or disagree on. That's what makes this such a great country. But I agree with you let's try to stick to softball, and making the one thing that we all love to do, playing softall, enjoyable to play! Here's to you and all of our Senior Softball friends, have a great season! |
| Feb. 12, 2010 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Good idea Diehard! Time to get to it and play some ball. Did I mention its NOW clear and 70 here in So Cal? =) |
| Feb. 12, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | There's no reasonable doubt that if there was ANY possible to probable chance that the environment, any environment could be damaged/threatened by anything that its constituents are doing then this would be something to suspend if not abort for the sake of the world community and its survival. Look at us producing Nuclear waste without the notion of its disposal, the pollution of the seas which is a threatening to horrible given and the terrible air we all must breathe in most to all of the cities of the world. These color the context from which all its phenomena draw true meaning and can teach us profound and simple lessons about ourselves if in fact, it's not too late already. There's an abuse of intellect that allows anything to be advanced because you can't technically, absolutely or officially prove anything's happening or not happening. That's a function of sophomore philosophy, is dangerous in the hands of the ignorant and the morbidly self interested. Of course there's Global Warming coming from the greenhouse effect that is threatening all of us as we speak and we, as a group, like the gang that couldn't shoot straight can't get it together to do anything directly to save ourselves. That's the sad truth that makes people want to kill the messenger but it doesn't change a thing. We are munching and crunching along without reason like lemings marching to the sea. Bad news doesn't sell papers and blows everyone's high so we don't talk about the elephant in the next room as it will only bring us down. Better glad then sad? Probably not. |
| Feb. 12, 2010 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | That you Dr Sigmund Freud, your psycho babble is noted. Just the opposite Joe, Bad news does sell papers, sensationalize anything and it becomes news worthy. You are right about Man, he will never save himself, because he is too self absorbed trying to eek out a living, to pay attention to his surroundings. We need to start another thread to discuss global and environmental issues. Sorry for getting off subject again. |
| Feb. 12, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Tabloid bad news isn't real bad news E because it's always about someone else. It's function is to distract us from the real bad news than no one wants to talk about or hear. You're comment was right on time. It's time for real character, E and for truth telling regardless of how cool or uncool we'll appear. Real problems need real solutions and common sense like good bats and balls forever and free defensive subbing rules. |
| Feb. 12, 2010 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | As einstein says: “Real problems need real solutions and common sense...” Real problem: current composite bats are the hottest in the history of softball. They aren’t just “good bats” but “super bats” that make home run hitters out of declining doubles hitters, that make fence-reaching hitters out of singles hitters. The results of such offensive firepower that has far surpassed things like human reflexes, pitcher quality, infielder’s defense has been to make a mockery of the game I have loved for half a century. It has reduced outfielders to observers as they watch normal hitters sail balls over their heads and over the fence. It has changed infielders to statues as the ball whizzes by before they can complete their first step. It has resulted in pitchers armoring up and backing up as statistics show that the ball speed is such that a blow to the wrong area on a pitcher could be fatal. It has befuddled managers and players as the time-honored qualities of excellent defense, good base-running, and strategy have become so negated and unbalanced in the face of such offensive firepower. For example, there is no outfielder who can defend the 350’ popup that sails over the fence, a rare pitcher who can stop a 90 mph line drive up the middle, and few infielders who can snare a screaming shot through the hole, even standing 80 feet away. It has demeaned older fields with “only” 300 foot fences as balls sail into parking lots and playgrounds, and some parks and cities try to ban such bats in the interest of safety for non-players in the area. It has resulted in the expenditure of millions of dollars for overpriced bats as players struggle to achieve some equity in offense. Common sense solution: ban the hot composite bats (my choice) or deaden the ball to return the game to one of balance between offense, defense, base running, and strategy, the game that grew more and more popular for 40 years before the current imbalance. We don’t see the decline of softball as much in senior ball, because with better health, medicine, and diet, more and more seniors can extend their playing years. But parks directors will tell you of the decline in softball participation by younger males as the game attracts mostly the studly offensive players and less and less the skilled defensive players and smart players whose skills are no longer as valuable. |
| Feb. 12, 2010 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Really couldnt comment on that one Joe, I dont read the Tabloids. We as a society, especially in this economy, just dont want to deal with issues that are deemed too heavy. Most people would rather keep their heads in the sand and maintain their personal staus quo. Lets not change our game any further, let maintain some simbalance of the sport we started playing all those years ago. No or limited Free Defensive Subbing! |
| Feb. 12, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Did someone say something against lively bats and balls I could sworn I heard someone going on with some loser/lost argument about why it's OK to bring our game down to his level of his/her comfort and capability. But, I must have been mistaken because when I looked to where the sounds were coming from no one was there. I'm starting to hear and see people that aren't really there. God, I'm getting old. |
| Feb. 12, 2010 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Did someone again try to defend super-charged bats and lively balls to the virtual exclusion of the skills of defense, base running, and strategy? Must be someone with a one-dimensional approach trying to bring down the game to his level of comfort and capability. Next he will be arguing for free defensive subbing rules to cover the inadequacies of big boppers who can’t play the balanced game of softball. |
| Feb. 13, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | I have just read an article that expounds the theory that global warming and an increase in greenhouse gases is what is behind the technology of the hot bats. The bats absorb the carbon dioxide (CO2)-and transforms it into carbon quintoxide (CO5). This process takes place only during contact with a softball, which explains why it takes 50-70 hits for the bats to reach their optimum liveliness. The more carbon dioxide there is in the air, the more carbon quintoxide that can be produced by the bats. Word is the next advance will be a bat that produces carbon tetraoxide, which after exactly 77 cuts will reach a BPA of 1.62 and effectively end defensive softball as we know it. Ain't technology grand!!!!!:-) |
| Feb. 13, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | By the way, the last time we saw Einstein, he was pacing off his latest 850 foot home run with the carbon tet bat and trying to figure out how to make them even hotter!! :-) |
| Feb. 13, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Mark, That was fun. I'm in the process of cutting a deal with a company selling anti-gravity or what we like to call'em, "Moon balls" and smart, NASA-like bats, with trajectory control. capable of hitting ANY ball 1000 feet with pin point accuracy. A great chance to 'get off' and take out that pesky neighbor's barking chihuahua that's been keeping you up at night. |
| Feb. 13, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Hey, Joe-great comeback! A ballplayer friend, Tom Ryanczak here in Albuquerque, says he met you in PHX and you are really a nice guy.I hope I do get to meet you in person sometime. |
| Feb. 13, 2010 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | how can we go from BRING YOUR LONGJOHNS TO THE TOC to global warming ?Can we try to stay on track ! |
| Feb. 13, 2010 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | I don't think anyone on our team has touched a bat since last October in Phoenix. We would never consider going to this, not that anyone cares about that. Maybe moving it to at least the middle of March would help so teams can get a little practice in before playing? |
| Feb. 13, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Sorry, #6, my fault. I threw in a crack about how cold it was in Fla. and got it sidetracked. But, I still think it was fun ribbing Einstein about a CO2 laden 'hot' bat. |
