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Discussion: Approved Bats under the 2010 SSUSA rulebook

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March 12, 2010
Big Sexy
Men's 60
18 posts
Approved Bats under the 2010 SSUSA rulebook
Does anyone know or can clarify under 3.4 (4) of the 2010 rules (pg 20)concerning approved bats states "All bats with 1.21 BPF or less, SSUSA approved or has an ASA Stamp are approved for use". So are we saying ANY bat that has a ASA Stamp (2000 or 2004)can be used?
March 12, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2586 posts
I would think the answer is yes....unless this is a trick question. Is there a bat that was previously approved by ASA that is now is now illegal?
Of course any altered or illegal bat with an ASA stamp would be disallowed.
What bat do you have in mind?
March 12, 2010
Big Sexy
Men's 60
18 posts
From January 2000 to July The original Miken Ultra maxload was approved and had the 2000 ASA stamp on it. In July ASA decided to ban it so Miken continued to make but without the ASA Stamp. I have one of these rare Ultras and from what the rules are saying this would be legal to use. That is why I wanted clarification...
March 12, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2586 posts
The original Ultra 1 and the Ultra 1 Maxload are not allowed in senior play.
The Powerhouse Team Players Model also isn't allowed. It has an ASA stamp but ASA here means American Sports Association.
March 12, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
I doubt they even know for sure the BPF rating of the bats that were banned that might well pass under the new standard.
That said, I also doubt and company would want to pay a fee for the approval of their use, since most are not in production any longer.
Might also be hard to find a bat with 1.21 BPF on the bat as well, unless they were given a heard up during production in time for re doing that.
What is needed is an up to date written list of banned bats from the various senior assns. and SSUSA would be the place, since they initiated the new standard.
On the original Grey Ultras, the balanced version might well pass the test, but the Maxload is very questionable.
March 12, 2010
Big Sexy
Men's 60
18 posts
Being new to the senior world and reading the rules it appears they would have to allow it unless like you said they come out with a banned bat list like ASA. There must be at least 20 or 30 bats with the ASA 2000 stamp that is now banned in ASA. All of which are still good in Seniors. The ASA is the official ASA Stamp not an imitation. Until last year I never knew about the rare ASA stamped Grey Ultras and I bet the majority of the organization does not know or they would have clarified the rule better. The way it reads this would be considered legal...
March 13, 2010
lemons
Men's 65
302 posts
Larry, Welcome to Senior Softball! You will find out that the associations can and will do anything they choose. Rather than find out at a tournament, write or call each association's office to get clarification............and ask for it in writing. Mel
April 18, 2010
B-DUB
Men's 50
29 posts
I heard from an ASA umpire who went to training this year that if a bat has a rattle it will be deamed illegal.
April 19, 2010
mad dog
Men's 60
3922 posts
big sexy,if i remember right the first ultra(grey) is on the ssusa ban list along with the titanium bats from the early 90's.i do think its posted in their playing rules also.

B-DUB they have been enforcing the rattle rule for 2 yrs now,sounds dumb but thats ASA.
April 25, 2010
B-DUB
Men's 50
29 posts
So I woner if Demarini will honor the one year warrenty when my two Juggernauts under warrenty both have rattles in them?
April 25, 2010
titanhd
Men's 50
314 posts
B-DUB ,Mad dog is correct. ASA has had the rule for a couple of years.
The rattle is covered under your warranty.Most mfg.including Demarini will repair but,it will be the only return allowed for that bat.The bat will be marked "no return" before they return to you.
May 2, 2010
B-DUB
Men's 50
29 posts
Thanks for your input. They must pull the bat apart and remove the rattle and or coat the inside so the layers stay together. I would hate to have the bat come back stiff with no bounce to it and not be able to go back.
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