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Discussion: SSUSA and NCSSA

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April 5, 2010
udaplaya
91 posts
SSUSA and NCSSA
First off, let me say that SSUSA and NCSSA have a cooperative relationship where people in NCSSA's organization play in SSUSA tournaments and vice versa. Both are putting on tournaments this upcoming weekend in the same proximity (SSUSA's backyard, no less). SSUSA has a total of fourteen (14) teams in three draws, while NCSSA has drawn forty one(41) teams in seven draws.

Although i do not agree with every decision they make, i am happy they both exist and i consider them both to be top flight organizations run by people trying to do their best. In talking to my peers, we view NCSSA as a player friendly regional organization, with tournaments probably 3 out of 4 weekends a month, whereas SSUSA is viewed as a more corporate type, national organization focused on "bigger" tournaments.

To the statement made in another post that the Major+ win all the time when combined with lower divisions - i know of one Major+ team that won four (4) rings last year, that has already lost five (5)games in its first two NCSSA tournaments this year to finish in the middle of the pack and has enjoyed every minute of the competition.
April 5, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
You are correct, with a reasonable equalizer rule, Major-plus and Major can be joined together very easily. The goal would be Major teams winning 50% of the time against Major-plus teams. I'm sure the Major-plus team you speak of is enjoying playing tournaments where there are more than 3 or 4 teams!
April 5, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4394 posts
U-Da,
Consider what I feel are the three biggest differences, the differences in cost, how one is allowed to put a team together, and lastly a yearly meeting where they (Managers*) actually vote on changes, you would be on the money.
* One is supposed to be allowed to bring in a proxy, but that is\was not always done.
That said, each does very good for what each puts on and like each, they both have their problems and
we still move on.
Are you playing in Turlock? I'll be in Ripon.
April 6, 2010
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
the diff is most teams in ncssa don't play ssusa and you can put their stuff on here but not on ncssa board! the tournament in yuba city is being put on by the timberworks team for a fund rasier

PS both are great to play in.
April 6, 2010
udaplaya
91 posts
Yes, we will be in Turlock. Good luck in Ripon.

Hopefully, the weather will let us get in both days.
April 6, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4394 posts
U-da, Well we just got our 3rd schedule, we are back to Pittman... LMK who your with I'll try to meet ya.
April 6, 2010
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Contrary to some of the other comments there are quite a few teams/players in the NCSSA that also play SSUSA. The W&L's can be skewed for the NCSSA as many of the tourney teams play in younger age brackets (i.e. 60-65's playing 50's teams) to "ready" their squad for the rigors of the "big" tournies. This offers top flight competition and rivalies against teams they would not normally face. It is also a great way to grade talent among the players ready to go into the next age group for "next season/year planning.

Both organizations serve their people well and provide great platforms for competition.
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