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| June 9, 2010 JLD930 Men's 55 67 posts | Message Board I find it unfortunate that this message board has become little more that a place for people to complain about nearly everything about our game (bats, balls, rules, awards, etc)or to conduct their personal feuds. We have page long threads that invariably are totally off subject at their conclusion as someone runs off on tangents. We just completed Rock n' Reno which was a great tournament as always (in my opinion). We won the 60 major bracket and received a bat bag (probably the 3rd of 4th we have been awarded over the years). Honestly I would be fine if there were no awards other than team trophies. Personal awards are not why I play the game. To criticize the awards without knowing the economics of the tournament (cost of fields, umpires, insurance, administration etc.) seems a bit naive asnd this is a "for profit" organization I believe. Nobody is forced to participate in these tournaments. If they are so objectionable stay home and play in local leagues. Overall I feel Terry, Fran, Dave et all do a good job. Ridge Hooks does as well. They sponsor a large number of tournaments throughout the country and for the most part they are well run. I have played softball for 45 years from the highest level of the game to seniors. Senior softball provides an opportunity to play a game (yes a game) that we share a passion for at an age that our fathers or mothers generation could not have imagined. I am totally in favor of constructive suggestions to improve the game and I think the associations hear what is said. However trying to please everyone from AA to Major Plus and age groups from 40 to 80 is a difficult task. I know that this is a long winded post and only an opinion. It would be really nice to read more positive things about our game. It is kind of like the news; dominated by the negative rather than all the good things that happen. I personally feel blessed to be able to do what we do at my age. Play safe and hope to see many of you in Lacey and tourneys beyond. |
| June 9, 2010 Slowest Pitch Men's 75 18 posts | JLD930 Right-On. I agree 100%. Bill Enos |
| June 9, 2010 DoubleL10 Men's 70 907 posts | Jack, Well stated. I remember playing against you and York Barbell back in the '70s. I played with Federal Wrecking in 1972 in the East Coast travelling league (before I got married)! |
| June 9, 2010 JLD930 Men's 55 67 posts | I remember those days well Larry. That was a fun league. Nice to hear from you. |
| June 9, 2010 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | Should have posted in this discussion. Agree with you, JLD930. Sometimes bold comments are needed to get some discussion going, however. |
| June 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | JLD930, my gosh, if you were with York Barbell when the nationals was in York (was it 1979?) then we played you-Albuquerque Diablos and you beat us something like 11-9.Then we got Howards in the losers bracket-with Don Arndt and they beat us 14-10. We went home. LOL |
| June 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Didn't mean to stray from discussion-I agree with you totally-see my post under Senior Softball is a joke. Lets play for fun and be thankful we can. |
| June 10, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Jack, Great post. It's the overall perspective calmness we need to see what's "really" going on in Senior ball so we avoid getting herded and stampeded toward ANY ends. Way to go. Lively bats and balls are integral to our game and MUST be a part of any solution. |
| June 10, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Suffice to say there are many different problems in senior ball all of which can be dealt with without counter productivity, one by one but it we wait for, suspect or push for a "one solution fits all" approach like killing the ball we can't help but be disserved and senior softball will fracture and decentralize. That may be the way we're going but those that love senior ball as we have known it will suffer the most and those that don't and have shown they don't will suffer the least. Let the buyer beware. |
| June 10, 2010 JLD930 Men's 55 67 posts | Mark, I believe it was 1976 when we (York Barbell) hosted the open nationals. I think we finished 8th that year. I honestly don't remember who we played. |
| June 10, 2010 JLD930 Men's 55 67 posts | PS: I too broke my own rule and changed topics. |
| June 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Jack-email me, if you would like-- weber5069@msn.com we can chat more that way. |
| June 10, 2010 Gary33 149 posts | Great post JDL930 How great it is to play & coach the game we love at our age. Terry, Fran, David & Ridge thanks for giving us a place to play. |
