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Aug. 31, 2010
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
229 posts
Question about Ratings
How can a team that won a Regional and the TOC in the same year not be moved up to the next level? And a team that did not win any tournament be moved up a lavel? The SSUSA rating system does not make sense!
Aug. 31, 2010
angus73
Men's 50
97 posts
Did the rosters for both teams stay the same ?
Aug. 31, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
They do whatever they feel like doing, making rules up along the way.
Aug. 31, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Jawood,
That's not true at all. I have went to Terry, George and Dave for information and they all have been helpful to our team, moving us down when we deserved to be down and moving us up the same way. With as many teams as thay have , it's hard to please everybody.....all the time. I am sure I heard that somewhere before.
Aug. 31, 2010
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
My guess is that angus is correct, major roster change. As far as getting moved up without winning, look at your scores before moving up, bet you were outscoring your opposition by a wide margin. Perhaps played fairly evenly with the teams you got moved up with. Maybe both.
By the way, the TOC had some made up rosters this year due to last minute weather problems. They were fortunate to get to play it at all. So, some teams may have won without their real rosters................
Aug. 31, 2010
JGogo
Men's 65
16 posts
I have been playing in the SSUSA for four years and for the most part the ratings have been fair. However, this weekend in Michigan I faced a 55AA team in the 60AAA bracket that was totally underrated. There is no way that multiple 55AA players should be hitting balls over the 325 foot fences. The team must have hit a half a dozen or more balls off the the top of the 325 foot fences in addition to the two that went at least 350 feet. The team was at least a major or possibly a super major team. How they were rated AA is beyond me. There was not a weak out in the lineup and all balls were hit like rockets by all who batted. Oue team has played 55AAA for the past three years before moving up to the 60AAA and we have never encountered a team in 55 AAA that pounded the ball the way this team did. I am sure that there is a good reason for this team being misclassified. The team was made up of true gentlemen. They laid down for several innings to keep from running the score up. I am sure that the game was not fun for them.
Sept. 1, 2010
titanhd
Men's 50
324 posts
Michigan Vet.Are you talking about a 50AAA team?
Sept. 1, 2010
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
Curveball-Angus. I know which team Michigan Vet is refering to.No,our roster did not change from the Regional to the TOC. Exactly the same with no pick-ups.We don't have a big budget and only play a couple tournaments a year but, when we do play-we play to win and we play by the rules.
And one last thing to Michigan Vet. if we deserve to be moved up.How about your team? You beat us!
Sept. 1, 2010
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Jawood I totally agree with you. They do what they want. HOW DO YOU RATE A TEAM M+ for 6 years, when they have not won a Major+ Tourney or Qualifier? And no Major roster change. This Rating process is SO WRONG. Just to fill the Major+ Group?
Sept. 1, 2010
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
canljack, I agree with Jawood as well.
After last season -we were totally expecting to be re-classified, but we were not.Why is anyone's guess.
Sept. 1, 2010
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
229 posts
Yes I am!
Sept. 1, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
Yes, they find any reason or "rule" (some even made up) to justify a Major-plus division. Teams should not be moved up during the season for the most part. Let them win something big on the field, like the world tournament. Don't move teams up because you need someone for the Mavericks to play or you won a little 3-4 team tournament that is called a national.
Sept. 2, 2010
Gary33
143 posts
My team Zeppelin is the one refered to in his comment and I would like to respond. The game with his team Bath Tub Billy's is one of the best games we have ever played. Our team has been around for over thirty years. Only two of us from the original team are left. It just so happened that each player had a great game. But in this tournament we won two games by one run and one of those was in extra innings. One game we played against a major team we only won by one run if you take away the five we were given. Two other games we won by 7 runs. We watched Bath Tub Billy's earlier and thought they were the team to beat. We have a lot of respect for them and appreciate their comment on our team. I want to say we are a good AA team and have played well this year but are not a major or major plus team. Just a final note the average age of our team is over 60. Just glad we can still play softball with our friends.
Sept. 2, 2010
Gary33
143 posts
My post was in answer to Jgogo.
Sept. 3, 2010
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
229 posts
Sloball1, we did our Major stint last year and took a year full of ass kicking in 3 tournaments, we were moved back down this year. I did not mention your team because I was trying to make a point about how terrible the rating system is, not trying to signal you out. We were moved up last year without winning a tournament - go figure! I thought for sure we would be playing you guys in the Finals, but shit happens. Good Luck rest of year!!
Sept. 3, 2010
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
Michigan Vet.Congradulations on your win.I agree that the rating system needs some attention.Given the current criteria for team ratings and our success last season, I do agree that we should have been moved up.

Is your team planning on attending the TOC?
Sept. 6, 2010
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
229 posts
We are looking at it very hard! Need a couple of guys to make a commitment. I heard it is a very good time and run very well.
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