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Nov. 21, 2010
Capt Kirk
408 posts
Las Vegas
Anyone have the results for the tournament in Las Vegas, I am interested in the 60's.
Nov. 21, 2010
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
65 Major results:
Rusty's----AZ
Bickerton---CA
Texas Legends

Nov. 21, 2010
LT
Men's 50
31 posts
If anybody has any results, please post them for the rest of us. Thanks!
Nov. 22, 2010
Chief144
Men's 60
67 posts
65AAA Results:
Game On - CA
Silver Sox - CA
Specialty Reality - NV
Nov. 22, 2010
gott2play
Men's 55
146 posts
50 Major results:
Barcelona Bandits---CA
Roll with 2---CA
Omega Construction---MD
Nov. 22, 2010
jc3ny
4 posts
50aa results:
Kamikaze---ca.
Top Gun---ca.
Romos Old school---tx.


Nov. 22, 2010
Norcalviejo
Men's 55
8 posts
55 Major
Norcal Reds - CA
Timberworks - CA
D & K - CA
Nov. 22, 2010
Kongs69
9 posts
anyone have results for the 40s?
Nov. 22, 2010
LT
Men's 50
31 posts
Thanks for all the results! This works much faster. If anybody has any 60 results (or 50 AAA) it would be appreciated!
Nov. 22, 2010
LP
293 posts
i got a call that said the supporters from calif. won the 60's AAA. they double dipped who ever they played
Nov. 22, 2010
local
128 posts
Any info on 55 AAA. Thanks !
Nov. 22, 2010
Whos Your Daddy
1 posts
50 AAA
Metro Construction- WA
Bad Seed-CA
Sports Line Bulls, TX

This is my first and possibly last tourney with Senior Softball USA. I have been playing softball tournaments for some time and had heard good things about playing in the seniors. So I was excited about playing and attending. What I experienced this past weekend at the supposedly "Winter Worlds" was very disappointing! The park we played at didn't have any concession's. The rest rooms were so far away from the playing fields and thrashed that they were unusable. Not once were the infields dragged during the day. Not even for the championship game. Are all senior tourneys "WINNER TAKE ALL"? We took second and received a hat. I don't think the third place team received anything. It cost a lot of money to play in this tourney. Flights and hotels and not to mention that this is the most expensive tourney I have ever entered. I have played and placed 2nd and 3rd at other tournaments, some in Vegas, and even those didn't cost near as much. They had better prize structuring and you could take a piss and get something to eat and drink. I could understand the lame awards if we only had 4 or so teams in our bracket but we had 14. I will say the umps and crew who worked the park and table as well as the all of the players were nice people and enjoyable to be around. I think next year they should call it the "Winter Winner take all lame Vegas Rip Off"
Nov. 22, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
You are right, the "awards" are terrible! Actually laughable!
Nov. 23, 2010
Capt Kirk
408 posts
Thanks for the update, does anyone have all of the 60's results. It looks like the CA teams dominated the tournament.
Nov. 23, 2010
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
It's always hard to get everyone to think alike or to even agree the same; but with that said, I personally don't go to tournaments for prizes. I've never been on a team that even mentioned prizes. Maybe it's my mentality, I'm an old NHRA racer, it was always pretty much winner take all. I'm just curious, what kind of prizes did you expect for 2nd or 3rd? I've received some neat awards when winning, LVSSA jacket last year comes to mind, but runner-up and 3rd place prizes have never been anything to write home about in any organization I've played in.
My team travels for the competition, prizes for anything other than winning aren't even considered nor expected.
Not sure where you played, but Desert Breeze Park was maintained to the nuts. Ground crew did a super job and games were on time. Rest rooms and concessions were what you'd expect at a city park, not a problem. I don't think anyone would complain about our facility.

Nov. 23, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
I admit to surprise on hearing the fields weren't maintained-we were at Lorenzi and the ground crew was out before every game and did a great job. Prizes are prizes, I have about 25 jackets, a couple bat bags, t-shirts, 2 huge boxes of trophies, and most of it is in storage. I play for the love of the game, the competition, and the comaraderie. Anything above that is gravy.
Nov. 23, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
262 posts
All i know is i know why they call it Winter Worlds, it was cold and windy up at Shadow Rock, crews did a great job with field maintance. Umpires were on most of the time. Lonestar(60AAA) was the last texas team playing when we left saturday. Joined the young guys (40's) at Big league Field of Dream, nice fields but way to short(300 ft) for those guys, there were ladies hitting over the 50FT high screens in center, Calif. ruled in 40AAA, but most had there 8 hrs by the 4th inning. Cold and wet, only thing i left Vegas is a real bad cold.
Nov. 23, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Supporters DD'ed The Hawaiian Masters in 60AAA ? That was quite a feat!
Nov. 23, 2010
JD32
7 posts
60AAA Results

Bay Supporters-Redwood City,Ca
Hawaii Masters
OC Mustangs-SoCal

Supporters beat Hawaii 34-32 and 24-22 after losing to them 23-22 in winners bracket final. Beat OC Mustangs in getting to finals.

Mark Kaufmann, Bay Supporters 60's
Nov. 23, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Same with Shadow Rock, fields were well maintained for the most part.
We have discussed the issues of playing for prizes several times, many if not most dont play for prizes, the win in itself is the prize. The chance to play the best in the country, if not the world, who choose to attend is also a gift. We have a gift given to us everytime we step on the field, the ability to play.

Nov. 23, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Congrats Mark, you guys are a great bunch and hit the snot out of the ball, still not sure how we hung with you as long as we did.

John Miller/SS
OC Mustangs
Nov. 23, 2010
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
399 posts
Shadow Rock fields well maintained? Perhaps the bottom two with the artificial turf but the top two were in very bad shape. The OF looked like cows had been grazing on them (big ones).
Nov. 23, 2010
Omar Khayyam
999 posts
I heard that a player died during the tournament, but don't know any other details. Was it an injury? Heart gave out? During play or on the bench? Defibrillator present and used (if appropriate)? Anything that could have been done to prevent such a tragedy in the future?
Nov. 23, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
How about a winner of a tournament gets their entry fee back? That would be a nice 1st place prize.

The brass will look at this and say "yea right, we are going to give money BACK."
Nov. 23, 2010
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
we throw tourney's like that here for fund raising for the kids team i play on.we usually can only get 1 field and allow up to 8 teams max,and give back the entry fee to first place team.

ssusa has always been slack on any tourney prize packages.i play here with the kids,and we pay at least less than half of what a senior tourney goes for,and the kids pay out down to 4th a lot of times.i have got just a hat for winning a tourney from ssusa,after giving out $350-550 in a tourney fee..
Nov. 23, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
EV, they did a great job of hiding those cow pies with the deep grass dont you think? And those nice cow lips where the infield meets the grass.
Thats typical of Shadow Rock though. And why I used the disclaimer "for the most part"

Fire Department was called to Shadow Rock for a player experiencing numbness in his arm and chest pain, went to the hospital was last we heard. Maybe at another field??
Nov. 23, 2010
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
E4/E6,don't know why jimmy(EV) was crying,up where he comes from thats all it is,DOH,LOL... sorry jimmy had to do it....


oh hate lips where the INF/OF meet,reason i don't go back into the grass(from the INF) unless its like 20' or so back.seen to many injuries from the bad bounce the lip can give.
Nov. 23, 2010
Omar Khayyam
999 posts
Jawood, great idea about returning tournament fee to winner. Would have to put a minimum number of entries, however. But returning a fee would solve problem in smaller tournaments of matching shirt sizes and in larger tournaments hearing moaning such as "I already have three new bat bags", etc.

Sorry, E4/E6, don't know what field the player was at. He may have died at the hospital.
Nov. 23, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
That's a good point, Omar. Maybe a percentage in the 3-4 teams tournaments that we see way too often because of lack of teams.
Nov. 23, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
California Energy, Coasters, Thunder in 55AAA. Cal-we knew you were going to win one soon!!Congrats!
Nov. 23, 2010
local
128 posts
Great to hear Cal Energy won it all. Played you in Reno missed you guys in PHX. Great group of guys,

ARO
Nov. 23, 2010
ShaneV
Men's 55
382 posts
Way to go, Metro! Congratulations!
Nov. 26, 2010
JJ
Men's 65
14 posts
We did lose one of our fellow competitors during the tournament.
70 year old gentleman playing with
Triple Play at Desert Breeze on
Wednesday-was walking out to his position (2nd)-went down and it took
approx. 30 minutes to get medics to
the field and help for him. Don't know
if the defib was put to use. He died
three times on the way to the hospital
but they were able to bring him back each time. Passed away after 3+ hours
of surgery. Had previous heart problems and they couldn't stem the
internal bleeding.
To John Bass and fellow players with
Triple Play and to Bill's family-our
condolences and prayers go out to you.
Nov. 26, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
Tough loss for Triple Play and all their family members. I do believe that if Bill had his way to go, It would playing the game. I do believe that is what keeps us going along with family and friends. Thanks Harry
Nov. 26, 2010
Omar Khayyam
999 posts
Yes, that was the player I had heard about. He was 74-year-old Bill Eagleton. He normally plays with the Physiomotion 70 team and the Redwood City Chiefs 75 team, both AAA level in California. He won a gold medal at the Hunstman Games this year with both of these teams, playing 3rd base! Quite an accomplishment.

Don't know any more tournament details except what JJ posted. Funeral details should be on the NCSSA website.

My condolences to all three teams who have lost a hearty comrade, known (according to his obituary) as having a devilish sense of humor and a love for athletics and sports.
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