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Discussion: February Tournament of Champions Polk County

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Nov. 30, 2010
leftybob
Men's 50
69 posts
February Tournament of Champions Polk County
Wondering if/when a list will be published listing all the teams eligible for participation in this event?
Nov. 30, 2010
Dbax
Men's 60
1299 posts
It's always been posted. Click on tournaments, and near the top of the page, it says "teams qualified so far"
for the TOC.
Nov. 30, 2010
leftybob
Men's 50
69 posts
Thank You
Nov. 30, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Who in the 55M's is going to the TOC
1)High Street Buc 55
Nov. 30, 2010
Easy E
Men's 55
44 posts
DoublePlay Classic from Southern California will be there.
Nov. 30, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Hey Ross, You better hope your guys make it this year. You are not old enough to join us at the TOC this year. Thanks Harry
Nov. 30, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Thanks Harry, Hope it is a little warmer there and less snow here
Dec. 1, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Easy E, Hope more then two 55M teams show up.
Dec. 4, 2010
Pieman
Men's 50
86 posts
Ross, Sweet 55 will have a team there.

I am sure Tri State will be there also.

Mike Santo
Dec. 4, 2010
leftybob
Men's 50
69 posts
How about AAA 50's. Who's going to the TOC
Dec. 4, 2010
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
232 posts
Mike valerio CPA / Pinnacle from Detroit Michigan will be be there for 50+ AAA.
Dec. 4, 2010
ChiPrimeMarty
Men's 55
71 posts
Chicago Prime 50AAA will be there.
Dec. 4, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
Spring-ford will be there in 60AA. it almost has to be nicer than last year.

check the flights from the east coast to MCO. guys--they are low. (philly & BWI)
ken
Dec. 4, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Mike, That's good that Sweet will be there. Hope both our teams make it this year (NO SNOW in the northeast). Are you planning on hitting I'm not getting in until Thu. AM. and will hitting in the afternoon.
Dec. 4, 2010
bucs15
19 posts
We High St 50AAA will be their, looking forward to seeing and playing against the best in the country.Happy holidays to all.Dan Barnes
Dec. 4, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
Desperados 55AAA will be there.
Dec. 4, 2010
Pieman
Men's 50
86 posts
Cryans 50AAA will be there.

Mike
Dec. 4, 2010
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2734 posts
Southern Elite/Reebok, 50 Major, will be there.
Dec. 6, 2010
outfielder
Men's 65
58 posts
Any 65 AAA
Dec. 6, 2010
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Rumor is ....IMS Dogs will be there.....50 major
Dec. 6, 2010
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Kansas City Barons (50 Major Plus) will be participating.
Dec. 6, 2010
leftybob
Men's 50
69 posts
Orlando Hawks (50 AAA) will be attending.
Dec. 7, 2010
Paco13
376 posts
If any 50 major or AAA needs a player, please let me know. I usually play SS or 2nd but can also play the OF. Hit for high average with ocassional solos (LMBO). I know of a AAA team out MD that I can be a perfect fit for and a team from NC that could use a right handed bat to go with all their 11 lefties...just having fun guys. Good luck to all. Call my agent...I am asking Werth can of deal.
Dec. 7, 2010
Secret
Men's 60
34 posts
Senior Moments 65 AAA from Orlando will be playing.
Dec. 7, 2010
Chief144
Men's 60
69 posts
Game On 65AAA from California will be playing.
Dec. 7, 2010
spoonplugger
Men's 60
60 posts
60 Majors ?
Dec. 7, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
As of now the NV Force 60 major team is planning on being there. We are losing players left and right but as of now we plan to go. Thanks Harry #20
Dec. 7, 2010
DoubleL10
Men's 65
837 posts
Harry, who are you guys losing? Our Texas 60s bunch plans on attending and getting our usual spanking!
Dec. 7, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
60's not sure if we play AA or AAA,we won our TOC bid in AA, but was moved up to AAA little while later.
Dec. 7, 2010
wagon487
Men's 50
538 posts
rumor is the Metro Stars is gettng the band back together for one more time, yes Pat and John are playing
Dec. 7, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
mad dog--after you were moved up to AAA and havent won another big tournament, then you should be playing in 60AA toc. what team do you play on?
ken
Dec. 7, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
mad dog--if you play with Dallas Spurs, you play 60AA. if you play with Tanel, you play 60AAA...ken
Dec. 7, 2010
Mr. Manassas
230 posts
Metro Stars....better than a soap opera!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec. 7, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
kbl i'll be with the spurs,those guys from tanel drink budlight,and i'm a silver bullet fan,LOL.........
Dec. 7, 2010
DCPete
242 posts
Joe B's 55AAA is in even if they show up fat & out-of-shape . . .
Dec. 8, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
mad dog--i hear you. i like to bring my favorite 2 things to a game. that be, my BAT and LaBatts!! see you on the field. ken
Dec. 8, 2010
Paco13
376 posts
Wagon487 this is Paco13 do you copy over. Pat I am glad to see that you guys are back together with the few additions I believe that you will have a monster team. You and John are two of a kind (good kind). Just do me a favor keep some of the subtle negative comments to a minimun...and you will see how easy becomes for everybody. The OF is tight now with Dana, you, Buzz and probably Tony. The IF not sure who is on 3rd or 2nd but Billy on SS and Geoff and Baer in 1st is a good start . I am pretty much done with senior ball, last year going up and down 95 took a toll on me. Next year I am playing C locally with the flat bellys on a 5 men IF I play the middle and some SS and 2nd. However, if at anytime you guys are short and need a player for a tourney keep me in mind. Good luck. Paco13 out.
Dec. 8, 2010
wagon487
Men's 50
538 posts
Paco, John and I are just playing in to TOC with Metro. I thing we have a good team for it. Next year we are playing with IMS DOgs.
Dec. 8, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
DCPete-I will match our 'fat boys' with yours when we get there. LOL
Hope to meet you then.
Mark Weber
Desperados 55AAA
Dec. 8, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
mad dog,
We were told that since we won Vegas last year in AA, but won the Texas State Championship this year in AAA, that we have to play the higher of the two, AAA..so my guess is that Dallas Spurs will have to play AAA....call and ask Terry or George.
Dec. 8, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Larry, I believe that we are losing Tudor, Vance( OUR SS), Turchan,Rice, and Tomlinson (I think). Cameron is not eligible to play. There maybe a couple more but these are the guys that I know of. Less people the more swings that I get. Thanks Harry
Dec. 8, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
#6 and mad dog--look on the qualified to-date list for the TOC. top of this page under tournaments...ken
Dec. 8, 2010
DoubleL10
Men's 65
837 posts
Harry, I know losing Vance and Tudor will hurt - they are an excellent double play combo! Are they going to another team? I also suspected Billy Rice could not play since I suspect he qualified on Turn 2's roster. I'm sure you guys will still be very strong. Good luck and hope to see you in sunny FL!
Dec. 8, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
kenny we didn't win anything in AAA to qual for TOC,so most likely we should play AA,if not oh well we'll still be there and drinking the good stuff(Coors light)..LOL......
Dec. 8, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
DoubleL10-sunny Florida is freezing right down to Miami again, and meteorological bloggers are saying they don't expect the pattern to change very quickly, which means we could face another cold TOC. A little background on how unusual this is, Orlando had not recorded a single freezing temperature since the 80's until 2009. (source-weather underground) For you weather watchers-this is a great site-lots of weather information.
Dec. 8, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
bob-- i will be looking for you guys. i will drink one (LaBatts) with you.c u in Lakeland....ken
Dec. 8, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
ken,what no good american beer......LOL.....


by the way my daughter lives in york ,how close is that for you....
Dec. 8, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Larry, Tudor is playing with the IMSDOGS in 50 Major. If the schedule will allow he will help us when he can. Vance's son plays Lacrosse for Princeton and they are playing that weekend. We should be alright but not our strongest team. Look for ward to seeing you again. Take it easy on us old guys. Thanks Harry
Dec. 8, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
mad dog--i am 50 mins from york. i used to play some good tournaments in york. they had a 10 field complex including a minor league stadium. back in the 70s they had york barbell. a major traveling team.

does your daughter like york?
Dec. 8, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
harry, youve been to the TOC a few times. we are staying near the Tigers staduim in lakeland. do you know any good places (local-spors resaurans) to eat?
Dec. 8, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
i guess she does,she's been there since 95 or so..
Dec. 8, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Ken, We stayed at the Ramada last year and most of the times we went to Hooters.I do not even remember the address. It was on the main street through town. I hope the weather is better this time. Last year was my first time at the TOC and I had a great time. We are looking forward to this year. Thanks Harry
Dec. 9, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Ken, I had some friends from the HMR 60 team that stayed at the Best Western on rt 92 and I believe that there was a sports bar across the street. Thanks Harry
Dec. 9, 2010
terrymac
46 posts
The Ohio Silverados will be there playing 55 AA. The team has moved to the 60 division so we will be the "Old Guys" If it stays cold could help us it is in the low 20s everyday here! lol Played in 2007, great tournament, but tough on the northeren teams.
Dec. 9, 2010
DougSoftball
Men's 55
1 posts
Timberworks Construction 55 Major will be there
Dec. 13, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
staff do ya have any field assignments yet,looking to make rooms reservations.

also anyone not caring about a short drive(12-15 miles),(sp)kissimee,fl has some great rates on www.priceline.com.


anyone that has been to this tourney,would there be a prol with that drive..
Dec. 13, 2010
SSUSA Staff
1322 posts
TOC Tentative Field Assignments will be announced sometime during the week of January 3rd ... The number of teams and respective ages/ratings divisions won't be known until sometime shortly after the entry deadline of December 27th. There will be only a minimal office staff presence during that week.
Dec. 13, 2010
slomo
47 posts
Mad Dog, TOC games are played at several venues across Polk County. There are 2-3 in Lakeland, one in Auburndale, and one in Winterdale, I believe. There are places to stay within 20 minutes of any complex but that's only if you know where you are going to play. You could also wind up driving up to an hour if for example you stay in Winterhaven area and wind up playing in Lakeland, or vice versa. Another consideration is whether or not you are participating in the pre-tourney activities which are fun (if it isn't 40 below like last year!). So bottom line, good luck with your lodging. I had no problem last year because I KNEW where I was playing. Worse case scenario, if you stay somewhere in Polk Cty you should have a drive between 20-60 minutes. Can't speak of the Kissimminee area.
Dec. 13, 2010
slomo
47 posts
Correction! in my post above, first sentence, I meant Winter Haven, not Winterdale. Sorry.
Dec. 13, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
slomo is kissimmee that far away from the fields,and why the long drives otherwise.just wish i could plan now instead of waiting till January as rates might hike up then...
Dec. 13, 2010
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
To the SSUSA staff: Why was the entry deadline moved up from January 10th to December 27th?
Dec. 13, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
mad dog, there are alot of nice hotels much closer to lakeland, auburndale and winter haven. our team is staying at Crestwood suites right off rt4(near the Tigers spring training) above lakeland. we will be about 15 mins from both lakeland fields and 20 mins from auburndale complex(also where the activities are for wed and thurs. Major and Major + usually play in winter haven.
Dec. 13, 2010
doker
Men's 60
168 posts
HEY GUYS!!! SORRY TO BE ALL IN CAPS BUT IT IS EASIER TYPING!!....I'M FROM FLORIDA AND HAVE PLAYED IN LAKELAND/WINTERHAVEN MANY TIMES....I'M NOW WITH TANEL 60AAA OUT OF AUSTIN TX....AND WE WILL BE THERE!!...ANY HOTEL IN POLK COUNTY IS FAIRLY CLOSE TO ANY OF THE COMPLEXES.....KISSIMME IS A LONG WAY OFF BUT THE HOTELS ARE MUCH CHEAPER IN KISSIMME...PROBABLY 30+ MILES AWAY WHEREAS ANY WHERE IN POLK IS ONLY 15+ AT THE MOST....THERE IS A HOOTERS IN SOUTH LAKELAND AND ANOTHER IN NORTH LAKELAND....SEVERAL NICE SPORTS BARS IN WINTERHAVEN....ALL OF THE RESTAURANT CHAINS ARE IN BOTH CITIES THERE'S A GREAT BAR IN THE SWAN HOTEL ON THE SOUTHSIDE KAREOKE ON WEEKENDS...AND ALSO AT THE HOLIDAY INN AT I-4 AND 98 GREAT KAREOKE BAR.....THE ROADHOUSE ON 98 ON THE NORTH SIDE JUST SOUTH OF I-4 HAD GREAT BEER PRICES WHEN WE WERE THERE 2 YEARS AGO..... THE BEEF O'BRADYS IN WINTERHAVEN IS GOOD AND THE BAR AT THE HOWARD JOHNSON IN WINTERHAVEN HAS A GOOD SPORTS BAR....THERE ARE ALSO HOTELS ON HWY27 EAST OF WINTERHAVEN IN DAVENPORT AND HAINES CITY THAT AREN'T THAT FAR AWAY...ALSO PLANT CITY HAS A FEW IF YOU'RE PLAYING IN LAKELAND.....THERE'S A MALL AND THEATER COMPLEX JUST NORTH OF I-4 ON 98 IN LAKELAND.....JUST SOME INFO....DOKER
Dec. 13, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
doker,thanks.i did a search on priceline and they said that kissimme was only like 15 miles away,guess i better check that again.
Dec. 13, 2010
Garocket
Men's 55
160 posts
Don't stay in Kissemmee, if you play in Lakeland you will be well over an hour from the fields

The nicest place to stay is in Lakeland at the Hyatt Place beside the lakeland Center
Only about 10 minutes from the fields in Lakeland and no more than 25 minutes away from the remainder of he Fields

I would say a little pricee but well worth the extra cash

5 minutes from a huge shopping center and about 2 minutes from Polk Parkway
hit it and be in Winterhaven or Auburdale in 15 Minutes
Dec. 13, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
every thing sounds good,but really looking at the expense of my stay there.i'll prolly be there 6-7 days.is kissimee that far away,what is it miles from there to the ball parks.hell i drive min of 30 miles here just to play league,and all tourney's here are usually at least 50 miles away.
Dec. 13, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
mad dog,
Why don't you stay in those 'big red shorts" you always wear.........that's funny right there....see ya !
Dec. 14, 2010
doker
Men's 60
168 posts
HEY MADDOG!...THE HOTELS IN HAINES CITY AND DAVENPORT PLUS BARTOW AND LAKE WALES ARE CLOSER THAN KISSIMMEE...AND AFFORDABLE....WE STAYED AT THE HOJO IN DAVENPORT 2 YEARS AGO..CLEAN BUT NOTHING FANCY....I-4 AND HWY 27 IS ALSO ALOT CLOSER...TRY THE HOTELS AT EXIT 33 IN NORTH LAKELAND..OFF I-4..DOKER
Dec. 14, 2010
Capt Kirk
410 posts
We stayed at the Jameson Inn in Lakeland, nice hotel, price is right. Terry W. like the happy hour prices at Applebees. There are several resturant in walking distance, Applebees, Cracker Barrel, Burger Joints and etc. We played in Lakeland and we were 15 minutes away from the fields.we played at the Southwest Softball Complex in Lakeland. Here is the website for the Jameson Inn:
http://www.discoverourtown.com/hotel/37087.html
Note: It was colder than a well digger ass in the yukon, in Feb. Hope you have better weather and you Texas Teams do us proud.
Dec. 14, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
capt,i don't consider $64.99 a deal,i have found a couple of places at $42 with priceline in the area and $25 in kissimee and i haven't even done a bid my price yet.

#6 i'm gonna get you a pair as i see your very jealous of my natty attire.
Dec. 14, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
mad dog,
Check your email.
Dec. 14, 2010
The real deal
Men's 60
63 posts
Doker: enlighten me, why is it easier typing in all caps?
Dec. 14, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
real deal,makes it easier to read for us older ones...LOL...
Dec. 15, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
731 posts
For any 60 Major teams information, I do not believe that Double Edge will be attending the TOC. We only have 6 players committed. Our team decided to go to a more local tournament in February. Good luck to those that attend and have a great time.

Andy Smith,
Double Edge,
60 Major Plus
Dec. 15, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Andy, The NV Force is having the same problem. We are really struggling getting enough people to go. I understand that there are expenses and things but you start the year by looking at what tourneys you need to play to qualify for the TOC and then you can not get enough players. I have trouble understanding this. Thanks Harry
Dec. 16, 2010
The real deal
Men's 60
63 posts
I know this has been talked about before, but shouldn't the TOC should be the last tournament of the calender year instead of the first? A lot of teams have moved up / re-tooled / disbanded / etc. by February...
Dec. 16, 2010
E
Men's 60
21 posts
I agree with real deal. NO way should the TOC be held in Feb.
Dec. 16, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
E, I agree. This topic has been discuss the past couple of years. It seems like there is a long term contract with the people in Florida for The TOC to be held in February. We are having trouble getting enough people for this years 2011 and we won the the 60 Majors and qualified for the 2012 TOC. Good luck getting those guys together. Thanks Harry
Dec. 17, 2010
The real deal
Men's 60
63 posts
Sorry I missed the previous discussion about this. Why not have an end of the year TOC in late Oct. / early Nov. in a warm weather state, and continue the "long term contract with the people in Florida" by calling it the season's "Opening Weekend" tournament? Might actually draw more tournament champions for the year's finale. I know - too much change...
Dec. 17, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
Real Deal- Late Oct and Early Nov. would be way too close to the Phoenix Tourney which is the biggest tourney they hold (329 teams). The Winter Worlds in Vegas and Ft. Meyers have also been extremely successful in drawing teams. With the TOC being a selective tourney, meaning only 220 or so teams are even eligible, that means there will only be a limited number of teams that actually make it. Putting it in Florida in February is the only place it really fits to keep a successful program going. Spring Worlds starts in late March and early April and is also successful. Would you really want Winter Worlds and Winter Nationals, and the Spring Worlds one month apart?
Planning is already done-as it has to be done several years ahead to secure the venues-into 2014 and 2015. If you have ideas to change it after that, I'm absolutely sure that Dave Dowell and the whole committee would be glad to discuss it with you. In Tucson, I really got the message that they want the best for Senior Softball. If you come up with a good idea, put it on paper and discuss it.
Dec. 17, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
To all 60 Major teams, The NV FORCE team will not be attending the 2011 TOC. Anybody in need of a fat bald first basemen get a hold of me. Thanks Harry #20 NV Force
Dec. 17, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
Birdie-I am sorry you won't make it. It looks like we will actually have some time to meet people and I was hoping to meet you. I am planning on attending some of the early activities.
Dec. 17, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
birdie sorry to hear that,the following weekend there is a spring training thingy run by curt hollis in jacksonville,fl that is pretty good to go to,a few guys from up your way come down for the weekend.we get a lot of bp in and some good instruction from some major type players,reebok will be there this year as the major sponsor.we play some pick up games also.

as for the TOC,seems much better to have it maybe the last week in nov,or first week in dec,personally i think they should swap with the winters with the TOC,maybe have the winters last week of jan-first week of feb,than the springs could be in late march.
Dec. 17, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Hey Duke, Maybe the NV Force and Double Edge can combine. I believe that we both have big bodies of water that connect our states in some way or another. Hey staff what do you think? Thanks Harry
Dec. 17, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
birdie,mmm what chu trying to do there...LOL.but with that said,i have heard things going on down there with teams that come up short of players,ya might look into it further if you have 8 or more that want to come down,ya might be able to fill out your team .
Dec. 17, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
mad dog, I think that I know a guy that does go to spring training in Fla. The only problem that I have with that is you come back and still can not play for about 4 weeks. I would like to see something done about the TOC.being played in the same year you qualify for it. I am a little upset right now with my team because I was really looking forward to going to the TOC this year. I am sure that I will get over it. hell I retire every winter. Thanks Harry
Dec. 17, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
the guy who pitches(over 60) for turn2/rekco/fergies (or used to be their name)comes and gives pitching tips each spring along with johnny dykes of suncoast reebok.hey if ya use it right it'll take ya 4 weeks to recover..LOL......
Dec. 17, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
mad dog, If I use it right I may never recover. Harry
Dec. 17, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
been there done that,2 years back i prolly got in over 200 swings easily(in 3 days) and was down for a few weeks..LOL...

all this after not doing anything for the few weeks before going there,oops,LOL....
Dec. 17, 2010
DoubleL10
Men's 65
837 posts
mad dog, it still is Turn 2 but they have other co-sponsors now. The guy who currently pitches for them is James McLamb from Fayetteville, NC - is that who you are referring to? He throws a mean knuckle ball.
Dec. 17, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
can't remember larry what his name is,just know he was an old guy,LOL you know,kind of like you,LOL.....
Dec. 17, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
I was just wondering, I do not think the Calif. thing is going to work. I have another angle. I have family in Pittsburgh maybe I can play with a team from PGH. I also bought a house in Fla. maybe I can hook up with a Fla. team. Thanks Harry
Dec. 17, 2010
wazoo
Men's 65
95 posts
Wild Bunch 60's major will be at the TOC,sent our team roster in for approval today.After reading the different post of several good teams having
Dec. 17, 2010
wazoo
Men's 65
95 posts
problems finding enough players worries me.This is our first TOC & looking to play great competition.
Tom Wasmer
Wild Bunch Coach
Dec. 18, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Tom, Do not worry about it. You and your team will have a great time. I really enjoyed myself last year. I am sure that you will to. It is a well run tourney. Thanks Harry
Dec. 19, 2010
#45inMd
Men's 60
108 posts
Harry, Sorry to hear that you and NV Force are not going to the TOC. I'm hoping we don't get snow in hear in the northeast like last year so my team makes it there.

TOC needs to be move to Nov.

Winter T's need to be move to the winter (Feb.)
Dec. 19, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Ross, I wish you guys luck and great weather. Thanks Harry
Dec. 19, 2010
LP
302 posts
does anyoe know where the 60's AA teams are playing at the TOC. or maybe they havent been posted yet, if not it makes it hard to get a motel close to the ball field?
Dec. 19, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
LP--the fields wont be posted till after Christmas. we are playing in the 60AAs also. we have our hotel.its in north lakeland. if you click onto lakeland hotels.com, you can find hotels that are close to most complexes. click on "tournaments" at the top of this page and go to TOC tournament and you will find the map of all the complexes they use. who do you play with? we r the spring-ford team. good luck, ken
Dec. 19, 2010
LP
302 posts
we are coming as tanel AA from texas ---- we won the winter world in vegas in 2009 there will be a tanel AAA from texas also. we have 6 guys from the 2009 team that didnt play with tanel this year so we will represent tanel AA in the TOC.
Dec. 20, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
LP--i really dont care, but i am curious to how many new players you are bringing along that were not on ur qualifying team???? how did you make out looking for hotels? ken
Dec. 20, 2010
goforit
97 posts
Birdie/Andy,
Sad to see that your teams will not be going to the TOC. We Master Collision were looking forward to playing both of you again. I agree with everyone else that this tournament should be in November at the latest; qualifing teams are still together and playing at a high level. I thought that was what this tournament was all about. It should not consist of partial teams getting to pick up other players just to have enough to play, it is supposed to be only players that were on the qualified roster at the time they won a tournament. When i saw the teams that were coming i was really excited, now i'm not sure if the teams that show up will be the same guys we played against during the summer. This would all go away if the tournament was in November. Anyway, i'm looking forward to getting out of this cold weather (hope Florida is warmer)in acouple of months and playing softball again against whoever decides to show up and have some fun.

John Giesler
Master Collision
Dec. 20, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
john you don't know how many times the dates for TOC have been kicked around,it does seem like it should be in nov/dec at the latest.
well hope to see some of ya's there.
Dec. 21, 2010
LP
302 posts
kbl we have 6 of the original group and picking up 6 new players, that is why the teams that win in say 2009 like we did should play the following feb. instead of waiting over a year to play, then you would have the team that qualified be there instead of a replacement team.
Dec. 21, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
731 posts
A perfect example of how dollars and cents rules the roost. If you have to add more than 1-2 players from your original qualifying team, then you should not be allowed to participate as a TOC team. No exceptions, period!!!!

Andy Smith
Dec. 21, 2010
Jose #12
Men's 60
86 posts
It does get confusing, we won 60AAA in Ft. Myers in Nov of 2010. However we don't get to go to TOC until Feb. 2012. Who knows how many from the original roster will still be with the team.

What if you don't play with the team the next year. Are you still on the roster and eligible for the 2012 TOC? How many players can you pick up? Who can you pick up?
Dec. 22, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Duke,
I agree with you, if you didn't play and "help your team qualify" to go to the TOC, then you should not be able to go.If this is the case, teams could qualify, let some players go and pick up a better team. Dance with who brought you !
Dec. 22, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
can the same sponsor bring 2 teams in the same age division - 1 in AA and 1 AAA?
Dec. 22, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
Ken, I would think that he could. If both teams qualified then they should both be able to go.

We thought about picking some players up to get us to 12 but I am pretty sure the coach decided that it was not the right thing to do. It could have been to much trouble finding the right people. Jose, We won in Nov and qualified for 2012. We cannot make 2011 how are we going to make 2012? Thanks Harry #20 NV Force
Dec. 22, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
kbl,
That's my thougts exactly...... it is all on the up and up, but just doesn't look good on paper !
One of the teams is not even an "approved sponsor team" to go play any tournaments, much less the TOC without written approval from the President of the company.
Dec. 22, 2010
goforit
97 posts
I know its all about the money to the powers that be but they really need to look at the rosters of teams in the TOC. If a team is coming with players they did not use when they qualified then maybe they should bump them up a division. Is it really fair to teams that do bring the correct roster to play against teams that may all of a sudden be an ALL STAR team. I will play against whomever shows up but it looks like others feel as i do based on the comments on this thread.
Dec. 22, 2010
kbl
Men's 60
532 posts
harry and kenny, i can sorta agree "on the up and up", but now there could be 6 new guys coming that we didnt play against last year. i really am not complaining. just my 2c. 6 new guys coming and didnt qualify. (IMO) we are going no matter if it "SNOWS" again. i have 2 guys i hooked up with to drive, if necessary. thanks, ken
Dec. 22, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
687 posts
John, I agree with you about the adding players. I have not looked it up in the rules but I would hope that you could only add players from the same division AA,AAA etc.Allowing a AAA player to play AA does not seem fair.
Ken, That is what most of our guys did last year. I got the last southwest flight out of Dulles on Tuesday. I am pretty sure that the rest of our guys drove down. All flights were cancelled Wed. and Thurs.and that was the only way we got to play. Good luck to your teams. Thanks Harry
Dec. 22, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
To all of the post right above...I completely agree.


LP, I have talked to Tim and he wants to talk to you about going under the Tanel name. I told him you were a class act, but he wants to talk to you.I sent you an email, let me know if you received it and let me know how iy went after you two talk.

Kenny
Dec. 22, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
731 posts
goforit,

I like the idea of playing up one division, but if you are adding 6 players, then that is way off the mark as the team that got you there, and the added players could be too good, even if moved up a division. It's not a big deal to not go, but go with your team or not at all. Also, if you qualified with 13 of your regularly rostered players,and your roster all year had 15-16 players, but all could not go to every tournament, then I have no problem with bringing anyone from your regularly rostered team that played all season.

Just My Opinions!

Andy Smith
Dec. 23, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
andy,that is one thing i don't like about the roster rule,sometimes it is real hard to get all at the same tourney so they can qual.i like your idea of "if your playing most of the year they get to play at worlds and etc".when i moved from San Diego to lemoore i had to run down to menifee to play a tourney so i could qual with stone age,and we had to make sure all our other guys showed b/c it was the only one i could get to before worlds.

maybe make it if ya play at least 3 tourney's you auto qual with your team.
Dec. 23, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
also play the TOC in november to stop all the roster prols and when the northern guys are still playing.don't make the TOC the first tourney of the year for these guys.
Dec. 23, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
731 posts
Bob,

SSUSA is very good about letting teams play with guys that have been playing with your team the entire year, as long as they signed in at some other qualifying tournaments. The amount of tournaments depends on how many you played that season and up to SSUSA's discretion. I had to do that for one player on my previous team, where everyone attended a particular qualifier except one player, and he played all the other qualifiers, so it was approved. For example: For The Phoenix Worlds, just pick your qualifying roster that had the highest amount of your regulars. If one or 2 guys could not make that tournament, then just call up to George to get approval and a confirmation through an email for the other 1-2 players. This is not a big deal.

Andy Smith
Dec. 23, 2010
Capt Kirk
410 posts
Someway and Somehow how the TOC sb the last scheduled tournament in the same calendar year. It would require some changes to our current tournament scheduling routine.
DEC-TOC
Nov- World Championship
Oct- Winter Nationals?
Oct- Winter World?
Also, I was reviewing the 2011 tournament schedule, and the Baytown and Boerne SSUSA Qualifiers were not called out.
Anyone knwos why these two (2) Texas SSUSA Qualifiers are not listed.
Dec. 23, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Boerne sucked sooooooooo bad last year that Keith was going to move it. It was the worst ran tournament of the season !!!That's saying something, sad because it was a fun place to go too.
Dec. 23, 2010
FreeAgent10
43 posts
Merry Christmas Capt. Kirk. Check the Texashalfcentury.com website. Bourne is now in Georgetown on Aug. 25 to 28. No one was going back to Boerne again that I know of. Enjoy the holidays.
GT
Dec. 23, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
266 posts
Capt.K. Baytown is a SPA tourney, THC doesn't go there.
Dec. 23, 2010
Capt Kirk
410 posts
JB, I must a Klutz, I was thinking Klute (Clute). Are you still running five miles a day, if so I would like to join up with on the last 100yds.
Capt
Dec. 23, 2010
Capt Kirk
410 posts
I just pulled down the THC website for all of their scheduled tournaments for 2011
http://www.texashalfcentury.com/2011tournamentschedule.html
Dec. 23, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
266 posts
Capt glad to see you finally got pass the 40 yard mark, keep up the good work, I heard you may CR this year. Clute-baytown both in texas.
Dec. 24, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
JBTexas,
Any thoughts on next year ? Would love to have you.
Dec. 24, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
266 posts
Made a statement durung the SPA national in Dalton that if we could get it together and win that title that I would coach the team(Robert had desided to coach a 65 team in 2011) the following year if we had a team. One Tittle and it looks like we have 12 returners who want to stay together and a couple new folks, so a committ is a committ. Had fun playing with you guys and hope there will be other opportunites to do it again. Have a great holiday.
Dec. 24, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
JB you guys got lucky,we don't play good in the rain..LOL....

keep going this year and good luck....
Dec. 24, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
266 posts
Mad Dog, all I can tell you is Santa came early with my present this year and I'll take it. See you in Georgetown in March.
Dec. 24, 2010
JBTexas
Men's 65
266 posts
Capt K. and #6, did you guys notice that the Chute tourney isn't listed as a Qualifer??? Long trip for a non-qualifer.
Dec. 25, 2010
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
JBTexas,
May have to find something else closer.
Dec. 25, 2010
Capt Kirk
410 posts
JB & #6, Clute and Lubbock are not called out the SSUSA Tournament Website but are called on the THC Website, maybe the SSUSA Tournament Website will update their website.
Dec. 26, 2010
wazoo
Men's 65
95 posts
The Wild Bunch 60 major Roster has been approved for the TOC,here's hoping for a great turn out.Merry Christmas & Happy New year to all.
Tom Wasmer
Coach
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