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| Dec. 8, 2010 Just -a-base Hitter Men's 60 12 posts | New Rules for 2011 ??? Wondering if there are any new rules for 2011 |
| Dec. 8, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | For now at least, just what's listed above. |
| Dec. 8, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | JT. Nothing too major. Heard you were killin' it in Las Vegas. |
| Dec. 8, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Main thing is bats/balls will be the same for next year and SSUSA will speak to it in their next newspaper. |
| Dec. 9, 2010 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | Don't forget the new rules that we can now wear sleevless jerseys and wearing a hat is now optional! Who cares about a progressive HR rule, 70' bases and 1 and 1 counts, it's great that they got the important stuff taken care of. |
| Dec. 9, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Just-a-base-hitter-see 'rules of the game for complete list of changes. Jawood-1-1 was voted down because they implemented the extra 5 minutes to get the games in, and felt that it would make a big enough change to get more games in. Progressive HR rules are not well liked by the committee, but I plan on keeping the issue alive,along with the 70' bases, which I happen to think are great. They were extremely worried about the 'altered uniform' affecting the game (just like altered bats!)(ok, just kidding again)-but meaning sleeves torn off. There are uniforms now manufactured without sleeves that would have been illegal under the old wording. That and the hat issue took 3 minutes just to change the wording to make these items and options that are being exercised already legal. |
| Dec. 9, 2010 Just -a-base Hitter Men's 60 12 posts | Thanks for the info. What the progressive HR rule? |
| Dec. 9, 2010 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Mark. That's too bad about 1-1 count. That would greatly benefit our game dynamically I do believe. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Progressive is 1-up rule, or 2-up or the like. The thing you have to watch is that in the open inning the home team cannot go up, they can only even the homeruns, or they would have an unfair advantage. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | As far as the "altered uniform" rule-well, I think you can see the problem here. The torn off shirt sleeves were revealing all these massive 50 and 60 plus year old guns on these homerun hitters and it was driving wives of other players crazy, causing them to mentally engage in 'immoral thoughts', and, of course, we can't have that. They cannot afford to hire 'thought police' to control the situation, so we needed the rule. :-) |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Besides looking bush league, what is the point to sleeveless jerseys? The Rangers manage to play in Texas in August, and the Marlins play in Miami in July, with short sleeves and don't die of dehydration. What will 70' bases do for the game? Allow the infielders to play deeper so they would then have an even longer throw that many of them struggle to effectively make even now? So the only purpose for the 1-1 rule is to save time? A TERRIBLE reason! |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Imo the reality is the home team may not be given their fair share of HR's they could earn, if that is the case you state. Their turn at bat, they should be able to get it, all of it. Some rules reflected reasonable change, others reflect the desires of the few in control and not those who pay to play. Bet they see and will need to face the medical consequences the extra 5 feet of each base running will have for those who will suffer unexpectedly because of it. It will happen. It happened a couple of times this year already. Something a player cannot foretell, but they should. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | They seem to have added about the same amount of time a 1-1 count may have saved. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Dirty-70 foot bases make a very discernable change for the better. The infielder can knock one down and have a chance to throw someone out, double plays are much more prevalent, the 'gimmee' double is much more difficult which keeps the double play in order more often, and I didn't see infielders playing deeper-they are already deep enough. They just had a bit more time to make the play. I enjoyed it and so did EVERYBODY I talked to. There was not one dissenting opinion of the many people I talked to. I hope they adopt it. And the sleeveless-it's a fashion trend and when they start manufacturing them that way, I guess enough people like it to make it worth while to do so. I would have to wear a shirt under them with my pop-gun arms. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | I agree on the more double plays. But also with the longer throws needed. Shirts perhaps cooler or for some more comfort with the shoulder areas making plays. good decision though, imo. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Medical consequences?? Are you kidding?? This time I very much disagree with you, taits. If a player is that close to having medical problems that 5 feet per base pushes him off the edge, he doesn't need to be playing, and if he plays anyway, the SSUSA should not, in any way, be responsible. About the 1-1, that's the exact reason they did not change both rules. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Some do not know. Time will tell on that portion. Gee, go figure on the other. But I'm sure there will still be complaints. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Webbie, it is quite possible they manufacture them that way for guys to wear t-shirts under them, much like the Reds and many MLB teams do. Clothing companies manufacture pants that are to be sagged and worn below the butt. That is NOT much of a fashion statement just because some company looking to make a buck might tell you it is. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | None of us 'know' for certain when our time will come. If mine comes on the field, so be it, I will go happy. I will not spend any time worrying about it. Plus, we all know you can't please everybody. I could probably open a thread that the sky is blue on a clear day and I would get 20 different opinions. After playing 70' bases in Vegas-6 games-this may be the first time I could not find one person that didn't like it. I'm sure there were some, but not that I talked to. We will see. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Webbie25, Ok is it raining? only kidding. What I was referring to is the additional stress. But not so much for the singles hitter unless he gets 'lucky" and goes for extra bases. No no knows when the ticker will defib on ya, and drop ya like a rock. The extra run could do it thats all. 70's fine especially for the possible double one can get, other side is that some singles will be now outs... A few arms will need to adjust too. Sure beats the 90's baseline BB thrown from 3rd. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Taits-defib training was part of the convention-talk about getting your moneys worth for the $100 for those who questioned it. That and the 2 dinners makes it well worth while. If you haven't had a CPR update lately or training on the AED, at our age on the fields it is a great idea-they have changed CPR from when I was in the Marine Corps. |
| Dec. 10, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Yea, no mouth to mouth...lol They had a good video on here way back. But they should be at each park. |
| Dec. 11, 2010 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Taits-they have the AED at every park now-mandatory by SSUSA. In Tucson we were shown limited mouth to mouth and they said it was about to be changed to no mouth to mouth. My wife says in NM it is already no mouth to mouth-just tilt the head back to make a straight shot down the esophagus. |
| Dec. 11, 2010 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Webbie, Glad to read about the AED being in all the parks. An ounce or prevention is worth a pound of salt. Which could apply to other things with in the game now. |
