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Discussion: Strength Building Suggestions Wanted

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Dec. 23, 2010
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
Strength Building Suggestions Wanted
Last December I had surgery on my biceps tendon and had part of my bone shaves off around the rotator cuff socket. I did not rest long enough and did a lot of logging work here in Colorado. I need to strengthen this area and would appreciate any ideas, workout suggestions or advice as to what might be helpful for me. If you do not wish to divulge personal info here, please email me at ed@ewandrews.com and I thank you for anything you may share with me. Ed
Dec. 23, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Ed, seriously ask professionals who are intimately familiar with your particular situation. NO one on here can properly address your individual needs based on the work you had done and your current situation.

Good Luck!
Dec. 23, 2010
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
Makes sense Gary but I have a good idea of what is needed but wanted to hear what some of you guys are doing out there. I'm in the snow country and don't get to do a lot of interacting with teammates, etc.
Thanks
Dec. 23, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I understand, but what anyone else is doing has little if any bearing on your particular situation and needs. I just hate to see you follow what might be right for them but completely wrong for you. Could be more harm than good.

Why not just talk with the PT people I am assuming you worked with when this was done?
Dec. 24, 2010
Gloffer
22 posts
I like this one, but as stated you need to evaluate whether this is a good exercise for your personal situation. That being said the exercise below appears to fit.

http://www.baseballtrainingsecrets.com/articles/shoulder-exercise.php
Dec. 27, 2010
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
Gary, I do appreciate very much, your thoughts. That said, I am conscious enough to not practice the exercises that might be harmful to me and yes, I can discuss with my PT but I would also like to know what guys are doing out there because there may be some practices I'd like to know about. I'm in ski country and a long ways from ball country. Thanks,
and Happy New Year. Ed
Dec. 27, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
No problem Ed. I am just speaking from the experience of having rehabbed two surgically-repaired knees, a torn rotator cuff, and tendonitis caused by bone spurs in both elbows.

I have learned that rehab needs to be specific to the injury. Strengthening is one thing that can be a bit generic, but rehab is usually very targeted.
Dec. 30, 2010
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
No worries. Thanks and Happy New Year. Ed
Dec. 31, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
Surf88-I have watched this thread a bit, because I had almost the same surgery, I think. The tendon had become detached from the front of my shoulder and they had to drill a hole in the bone to reattach it about 8 years ago. I missed about 8 months, and really wondered if I would ever play again. Since then, I have found I cannot lift much weight with it(left arm) and it feels like it is pulling sometimes. Also, last year I tore the bicep and it turned my whole arm black for about 3 weeks. I have decided not to try to work it out, and I have to be careful of it. The only time it really affects me on the field, though, is if I have to stretch up for a high throw or ball hit over my head, but that is very minimal. Thankfully, I am a left handed batter and it doesn't affect swinging, but I cannot bat right handed any more without feeling it. Hope this helps and good luck. (Don't tell Dirty that you will be getting a CR because of this!!)
Dec. 31, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
A. A CR for a bicep injury? HUH? :)

B. Anyone can have one if they need it, I supposed, but not a handpicked rabbit. :(
Dec. 31, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Yes, anyone on the roster (lineuo) may run once an inning, at any time.
Dec. 31, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Gary19,
Are you saying you never have used a CR? Even when your knees are\were not so good?
Dec. 31, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I am sure I have, though never after an extra base hit. Just seemed to me like if I was able to get to second I was good enough to finish the trip.

To be honest, I did not like it and did not ask for one, but I respect the manager's right to run his own team.

Like I have been saying, I could live with the CR but not a handpicked rabbit. If the only idea of using the runner is to help the injured player than he is just as helped by anyone else running for him, his condition is not helped by that runner being the fastest guy on the team.
Dec. 31, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Are you throwing stones in that glass house as they say.
Like more that one rule out there, it is there and its playable with it.
Maybe like the guy up to bat with base runners on and a 3\0 count. Who swings away.
Stay safe out there tonight. Or shovel some snow....
Dec. 31, 2010
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
No, I don't think so. I will play by the rules because they are there, just as I use a special bat because I can but unlike others on here would play with wood if that is all there is.

And if the CR had to be the last out I would NEVER complain about that. That would be how the rule was originally intended.

Fortunately no shoveling tonight, supposed to be 57 degrees today in NE Ohio.
Dec. 31, 2010
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
Gary/Taits: I appreciate your input but please take the CR input over to the CR thread. This is a strength building thread and I appreciate it. Thanks Webbie, Ed
Jan. 1, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
Good Grief, Gary, it didn't dawn on you I was kidding about the CR for a bicep injury?
Surf88-good luck!
Jan. 1, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Webbie, I probably should have known better with you, but with some of these guys you can never be sure.
Jan. 4, 2011
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
surf88,after 12 weeks of physical therapy on a shoulder surgery,i didn't get it all back.i wrapped a bungie cord around a post on my deck and did reps of 20,5 different ways.i got it all back and still do this daily with both arms.my strength and muscle tone is better than ever.
Jan. 5, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
pitcher, Tell me more about the system and the different reps you do. Also what color or strength bungie cord (s) are you using? I'd like to try this system myself. Thanks
Jan. 5, 2011
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
surf88,i wrapped a medium strength bungie cord around a post on my deck and used it about 3 weeks,then went to a sronger one wich i still use daily.been doing this about 6 months now.it has really built up my strength and muscle tone in my grip,wrist,forearm,bicept,backarm,shoulder and chest.colors may vary by manufacter.i bought an assortment in a plastic container from home depo.wrap it around a post about waist high.stand back till it is snug.face the post,elbow at side or a little out front,pull it toward your ear,20times.turn you arm down across your body,elbow pointing to post,palm facing ground,pull to your chin.next,arm strait down at your side,pull back behind you.next,turn around,your back to the post,arm strait down,pull in front of you.finaly,stand sideways to the post,arm bent 90 degrees at elbow,pull across your chest just pass other shoulder.this one builds your chest and shoulder.i do all this with each arm.i do all this at 20 to 30 reps,each arm and repeat it 2 or 3 times.start slow so you don't hurt yourself.if you do,stop and just work the other arm till tomorrow.it doesn't take long to feel and see results.good luck in your recovery.
Jan. 5, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
pitcher55, this sounds pretty much like the Jobe series for rotator cuffs.
Jan. 5, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
874 posts
Pitcher: Thanks, I'll try some of these exercises.
Jan. 5, 2011
outfielder
Men's 65
58 posts
Gary 19, I work hard year round to be able to play this game to the very best of my ability for the team I play for, and part of that is being able to run with speed which I, by the grace of God, have been blessed with. part of the sacrifice I make to my team is being able to run when asked by the coach to do so. Now what tees me off is being called a derogatory name such as a rabbit by you or anybody else who has something against a rule they don't like in senior softball. Have some respect for us who do this, after all we don't call you a know it all although some of might think it. I probably could call some of you other things but out of respect, I don't.
Jan. 5, 2011
outfielder
Men's 65
58 posts
surf 88 sorry about the deviation from your worthwile thread, just had enough
Jan. 6, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Sorry outfielder, I didn't know 'rabbit' has become a four-letter word.

Despite all that, to use a rabbit just because he is faster than a perfectly healthy guy is a violation of the spirit of the rule. Is it allowed, unfortunately yes, but violates the spirit nonetheless.

Let's start using courtesy throwers for speedy outfielders who can't throw quite as well as some other guy. Or courtesy fielders for some statue at 3B who still has an excellent arm.
Jan. 9, 2011
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
HOW MANY ON AVERAGE PER INNING? I'VE PLAYED WELL OVER 100 TOURNEYS,BUT ONLY 2 SENIOR TOURNEYS.YEAH,I'M THE NEW GUY,SO I HAVN'T BEEN COUNTIN'.IF THE MAJORITY DON'T LIKE IT,THEN LET'S CHANGE IT .A GOOD ASOCIATION,SHOULD HONOR THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE BILLS.THE KIDS TOURNEYS ALLOW 1 PER INNING,WE NEED AT LEAST 2,MAYBE 3.I WILL ALWAYS GO ALONG WITH THE MAJORITY,EVEN IF I DON'T LIKE IT.EVERY ONE PUT IN THEIR SUGGESTIONS,WE DISCUS IT,VOTE ON IT,AND THEN,CONTACT SSUSA.
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