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Discussion: Miken U2-More Durable???

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Jan. 21, 2011
garyheifner
370 posts
Miken U2-More Durable???
I saw someone said back a week or so that Miken was going to put more Wraps of material around the U2 to make it stronger/more durable. Is this true or rumor???? If it is correct, are they going to mark the new bat in someway so that you know you are buying the new stronger edition?????
Jan. 21, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Will more wraps mean less pop?

If so, how will the guys who need to most special bat out there respond?
Jan. 21, 2011
JamesLG
305 posts

I believe that was me who mentioned this and nobody has answered the question. I don't care if it has a little less pop as long as it will last.
If anybody knows if this is going to happen please let us know.

Thank You:

James
Jan. 21, 2011
outfielder
Men's 65
58 posts
just curious Gary19, what bat do you use
Jan. 22, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Fair question. An Ultra 2. It is the only one I own, well besides the 18-year-old Steeles XLT that I use in the cage. I don't buy every new bat that comes out chasing an extra 5' of distance.

Jan. 22, 2011
db14
91 posts
WOW ....our little Senior Softball resident critic Gary19 is using someone else's latest technology and indirectly contributing to their R&D...my my my! Can anyone say HYPOCRITE. Now here comes his bile filled unqualified response.....
Jan. 22, 2011
Omar Khayyam
1004 posts
i think the correct question is whether Gary19 NEEDS an Ultra 2 to feel good about playing softball, or whether he uses one to level the playing field. I play in a single wall league and a double wall, so I have a cheapo bat for each league. And for tournaments, I also have an Ultra 2, but I'm one who argues for a return to softball without any composite bats. I'd put my Miken in deep storage in a heartbeat if the desire for the balanced game and safety concerns resulted in lowering the ridiculous level of hot bats.

But db14 is right that every purchase of a Miken (or Reebok, Combat, etc.) just encourages bat manufacturers to develop hotter and more fragile bats. The change will come from players (or maybe lawsuit-fearing associations), not from the bat manufacturers. Or maybe senior softball will just continue to decline as players reject the unbalanced playing conditions and the high risk bats and stop playing.
Jan. 22, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Omar, you are correct as usual.

My point always has been that I, unlike what others on here have said, would continue to play if the bats were dumbed down all the way to wood. And I don't ask for crazy rules to accommodate the special bats, also unlike others.

I own one game bat, not a golf bag's worth trying to find one that will hit 5' further than what I use now.
Jan. 22, 2011
MaverickAH
59 posts
WOW..... Calling a bat originally designed & produced in 2002, "latest technology" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Personally, I don't get why seniors are using no warranty senior bats anyway! A good U-Trip bat w/warranty makes much more sense.

Now, as far as anyone using a U2? Well, as the saying goes, "You don't bring a knife to a gun fight!" That's plenty reason enough right there to use one even if you think that it shouldn't be part of the game.

Hypocritical? Maybe, but I'm not one to make a moral stand on this issue if it allows my opponent a competitive advantage especially when it's legal!
Jan. 22, 2011
FOFO
Men's 50
174 posts
I thought Miken had already done this when the created the Ultra II Legacy. Takes awhile to break in but seem to have plenty of pop and a 1 year replacement warranty.
Has it been discontinued?
Jan. 22, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
FOFO, it probably isn't lively enough for a lot of guys on here. Just think of how many seem to run out and buy a new model bat, sight unseen, in the hope it gets them that 'valuable' 5' of extra distance.
Jan. 22, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4403 posts
When you alter to get either more pop or durability out of a bat you give up the other. You can't have it both ways, one or the other will suffer.
Its just how much of which ever will.
Jan. 22, 2011
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
403 posts
FOFO I had Legacy that I probably put about 3,000 hits on before it broke so yeah, pretty durable compared to a U2. Felt a lot like a Freak Plus.
Jan. 22, 2011
Omar Khayyam
1004 posts
taits, don't think I have ever seen a sentence like yours above "It's just how much of which ever will" I'll spend the rest of the night translating :=)
Jan. 22, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4403 posts
Omar,
To-shay.
Meaning if you go for more pop you give up durability, or visa versa.
By adding more wraps of composite material you will give up some pop.
Finding the happy medium is the hard part.
Jan. 22, 2011
Omar Khayyam
1004 posts
taits, thanks for the translation (although I still don't see it). I agree with the analysis. Now I'll be able to get a good night's sleep not worrying about "which ever will".:=)
Jan. 25, 2011
JamesLG
305 posts

Guys:

I hears again last night that Miken was going to make a change in the near future to increase the durability of the U2. It sure would be nice if one of the reps would chime in and say if this is fact or not.

Thank You:

James
Jan. 26, 2011
Bob17
4 posts
guys buy the latest cars boats guns,bow's(cross bow's now)snowmobiles,etc if they want the best good for them,myself I buy the old early 2003 ,2004 ultra 11 with asa stamps on them really seem to last longer than the new ones as far as pop(.25 swing &$300.00 dollar bat you do the math) if you dont have the swing it doesnt matter what you swing.
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