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Discussion: SSUSA are you there?

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Feb. 2, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
SSUSA are you there?
I realize you are getting ready to go to Fla. for TOC,however I have a situation involving a player that despite snail mail and email you haven't responded. I have a player who is trying to find another team and has sent you information on why he should be dropped from Major+ to Major so he can find a AAA team to join in SoCal. There are currently no Major or M+ teams in SoCal,my former players have no teams to play on for the next season. I've moved to Nevada and have disbanded Double Edge Major+ 60s. With no teams to move to,could you please evaluate the situation for my former players and give them the opportunity to play somewhere this year? We've sent you letters and emails,how about a response? Also, you have somehow separated my profile from my homepage.
John Sadler
former manager/Double Edge 60s
Feb. 2, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
680 posts
John , I hope you and the family are enjoying Nevada. I would hope that your former players are re rated back to majors seeing how they have never played a major plus game.We need all the senior players that we can get. I am sure your players are not trying to play down but simply trying to find a team to play for. Are you going to continue to play this year? Thanks Harry
Feb. 2, 2011
sjuhoops
123 posts
I know the feeling too well. I live in Las Vegas and play 65 maj+. My team is out of California. With the new rule in effect I can no longer play with them in SSUSA only. I too have asked to be grandfathered in but was turned down. Their answer was "I have many options". I immediately called the office and have emailed three times all before Christmas just asking what my options were so maybe I could find a team and have had one Email answered. This person "promised to talk to Terry and George" and get back to me. It has been 45 days and no response. Looks like I can never play in my own age group in SSUSA. We have no maj+ team here and 1 maj but they have 5 players rated maj+ who happened to win a tourney last year and got moved up. So they disbanded. Just doesn't seem right being 67 and having to play with a 55 team out of Utah in order to play in SSUSA. SSUSA we only have about 100 total players that play on travel teams out of Vegas. Shutting down California to us involves a total of only 2 people that we know about. Shouldn't all softball players be able to participate in their own age group. Good luck
Feb. 2, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
Harry,
Thanks,Pam and I love Mesquite,it's the small town we've always wanted to live in. No, I'm not with a team this year,although there are some fine teams in Vegas and St. George. We're still getting use to the area and will get back into tourney ball soon. After all I'm married to the best team mom/scorekeeper around. Hope you do well in Fla.,you have a place to stay if you ever come to the Spring Worlds in Mesquite. Good luck this year to NVF. John

Feb. 2, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
sjuhoops,
You couldn't have made a better case. Why should a player 67 have to play down to find a team? That's the situation my former players find them selves in. They can play 55 majors if they can find a team. They have no 60 option in SoCal. There should be a better way to keep players on the field and participating. Good luck,I'm sure we'll run into each other this season.
John Sadler
Feb. 3, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4344 posts
OTE24,
E-me @ tait_ebay@yahoo.com
i tried the one you had on cox.net it came back.
Feb. 3, 2011
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
OTE, wouldn't guys be able to play 60 Major? Several SoCal teams have been looking for players, Heat for one, they are looking for 4 or 5. Wouldn't they be able to play with teams like Gusto to make a good 60 Major team? Would the Muraders add some higher level players and move up to the Major level?
Feb. 4, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
taits,
Somehow when my address was updated it separated from screen name. You can reach me at pamsad@bajabb.com
SSUSA has my mailing address correct,but not the OTE24 address.
John
Feb. 4, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
Curveball,
You are correct, they could play 60 Major. However, there are no 60 major or M+ teams in SoCal. The fine teams you mention have been re-rated AAA. Not many options for my guys. Still waiting to hear from SSUSA,hence the question where are they? SSUSA should be trying to get guys on the field. The M+ rating for the indivdual is a death sentence depending on whats available in your area. M+ guys can play down an age group to majors, but not AAA at their own age. I'd like to see my guys get a chance to play somewhere this year. Have a great year.
John
Feb. 4, 2011
goforit
97 posts
OTE24, sorry to hear your guys are having a hard time getting squared away to play this year. They are a fine bunch of guys and very good players. They are the type of players the association needs to help and keep them playing. I hope everything works out for them --- soon.

John Giesler
Master Collision

sjuhoops,

Hey big guy, i can't believe the association can not grandfather you into where you need to be. You have meant so much to this game and its a shame that you need to be treated this way. Hope everything works out, but i know whatever happens i will still see you on the field this year tearing it up for someone.

John

He

Feb. 4, 2011
sjuhoops
123 posts
Hey John. Thanks. Hard to believe playing Senior ball since 1994 in SSUSA
and now not able to play because we have no teams in Vegas I can play with. My California team I have played one full year with all those guys and two years with some of the others. What gets me is they won't even respond to some of us who are having a hard time finding teams since they changed the rules. For a rule to affect only a handful of players seems there could be exceptions made for the players who can not find a team because of that change. I am under the impression that this is only SENIOR SOFTBALL where all seniors should be afforded the opportunity to participate. Anyhow Big John I hope you are healthy and I look forward to seeing you hopefully on the playing field and not watching from behind the screen Take care

Hank
Feb. 4, 2011
DoubleL10
Men's 65
811 posts
Hank, Your concerns are some of the reasons why I thought long and hard about NOT moving up to 65 M+ this year. The stigma of being M+ greatly limits your options if something happens to your team. When our Boaz 60 M+ team folded in 2009, there were no other M+ teams around to play for AND no Major teams in Texas that were looking to add players. Luckily, we formed a Major team of AAA and M+ players. THAT team folded last year and we're still kicking around at Major. Now that I'm 65 this year, I'm joining the Texas Legends as a M+ team. We'll see how that goes. We will probably wind up playing down to 60 Major locally to get some games.

Good luck to you, buddy, and hope that SSUSA will address you guys concerns.
Feb. 4, 2011
J R
180 posts
Larry last year was bad. My 65 Major would go to a tournament and play The Legends 4 or 5 times.Looks like the nearest 65 Major or Major + team to Texas is in Florida.I lost interest so looks like no tournaments for me for the 1st time in about 10 years.Sam is playing with your team, and some joined Bill Wilson. He is putting Christian Bros. back together. Probably 65 aaa
Feb. 4, 2011
sjuhoops
123 posts
Hey Larry. Thanks. I hope they address our concerns. There are a few of us that can use some help just to be able to play.
I don't understand why there should be one player in the entire country unable to play SENIOR SOFTBALL. I'm sure our paths will cross in other organizations tourneys. Take care.

Hank
Feb. 4, 2011
Barry13
1 posts
I have the same problem. Win Spa tourn. Team becomes m+. Team drops all but 5 players so they can play major. I'm stuck , no major+ teams that touch Utah. Terry said well play 60's. To old for that Terry. Can't play this year. Thanks Terry.

Feb. 6, 2011
Duke
Men's 60
702 posts
Hi OTE24,

I sent you an email on my situation. Simply put, I am forced to retire from senior softball this year and find something else to do. There are no teams at the 60 Major level in Southern California. I am a sub only on a 55 Major team, so that does not look promising just playing once in a while. Guess it will be the beach and checkers this year. LOL! Glad you are doing well. Hi Pam!

Andy
Feb. 7, 2011
sliplayer
Men's 60
70 posts
I really don't understand why Hank is being denied the opportunity to play with the team he basically has played with for the last 3 years. If someone can give a Hank an alternative place to play why haven't they done so? At least respond back to him and give him the courtesy of an answer.
SLi
Feb. 8, 2011
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
If a major team can add 4 M+ players and still stay major, why can't a AAA team add 1 or 2? Does anyone think finding teams for these guys is better than the M+ death sentence? If a team adds a player from a higher level and wins, move them up. More players on the field,more money SSUSA! Bottom line is get these guys on the field.
John
Feb. 8, 2011
Duke
Men's 60
702 posts
John,

One small correction to your last post. A Major team can add 5 Major Plus players and continue to play Major. George just recently called up to SSUSA to verify that is still correct.

Andy

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