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Discussion: Why not San Antonio, TX?

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Feb. 25, 2011
Capt Kirk
410 posts
Why not San Antonio, TX?
I live in the San Antonio, TX area, we have teams from San Antonio that play in SSUSA & SPA hosted tournaments (Georgetown, Dallas, Corpus Christi, College Station, Baytown, Lubbock, El Paso)why not San Antonio? We have two (2) softball complexes, Kennedy & Alva Jo Fisher that would support a senior softball tournament. The Alva Jo Fisher softball complex would host the 65+ and 70+ teams since the fields are 275'. The Kennedy softball complex would host the 50's, 55's, & 60's since the fields are 300'. A spring or fall tournament would work the best since the weather would be outstanding.
I believe the mayor of San Antonio would support such a tournament. Mayor Castro is young and is supportive of seniors remaining active. We have twenty (20) plus teams who play senior softball in San Antonio, I would venture to guess that 10-12 teams would would play in a SSUSA or SPA hosted tournament here. Teams from other cities would come here, lots of stuff to do, a great city. Are you listening SSUSA or SPA?
Feb. 26, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
I think one question that would be asked is: How many fields are there locally? As for the 275 foot fields I know far too many guys that can easily co over those. More like homer domeier fields.
With only two as mentioned it would be a small T, that is not to say some others do not end up like that...
But it would be nice to move them around so as other place might be able to travel less and expend less in cost.
I feel the same should happen for the TOC, MOVE IT & MONTH UP.
Feb. 27, 2011
Capt Kirk
410 posts
Each softball complex has four (4) fields. One of the complex has 275' ft fences, the other complex has 300' fences.
Feb. 28, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1992 posts
Capt Kirk-we have the same problem in Albuquerque about not having tournaments, but we don't even have a good 4 field complex here. Los Altos is the closest and has 3 fields running 255 to 275 on 3 fields and one 300 converted baseball field, Bullhead has 4 275 foot fields (measured from the backstop rather than the plate when built, and one 3 field complex at 300 feet with no facilities. 275 is too short, for sure, with these bats. I'm trying to work with the city to come up with a venue to have tournaments here-we have great weather from May to October. Good luck to you!
Feb. 28, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
410 posts
hope this comment doesnt ruffle some feathers- i have heard some comments from some of the players that it seems that the north texas teams frequent a lot of tournaments in the south part of the state, BUT that the south texas teams do not reciprocate the attendance. some may show up for championship tournaments, ( ssusa kiest park, spa southwest championships) BUT not for qualifiers. there was a "one day charity tournament " in baytown this last weekend, i am not sure, but we had at least 2 or 3 teams from north texas that showed up to support the tournament. there are not that many tournaments held in north texas anymore, i wonder why.
think about it guys.
Feb. 28, 2011
JBTexas
Men's 65
264 posts
We just had a tournament this weekend in San Antonio and had 22 team in 4 division,only three from out of town but this may have hurt your turnout.One problem we have with making all the qualifers is our league play is on Saturdays in SASSL, so we have to pick and choose our dates.
Feb. 28, 2011
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
JB why have a saturday league,or be in one if your a tourney team.we know that the 60's start the tourney on friday,now.it would seem to me that you should be able to play during the week,just asking...also if not then the league should make arrangements to let you go play your tourney's and make up the league games.
Feb. 28, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
410 posts
jb- is saturday league play dictated by SASSL or agreed upon by the players/teams ? as far as i know in most areas league play happens at night during the week, or DAYBALL that is also during the week. may be something to look at unless everybody is happy with arrangement. just wondering .
Feb. 28, 2011
Capt Kirk
410 posts
Currently the 50's teams have a night league. We could make a motion at the next board meeting and vote if our 60's team want to play at night. Currently both the 60's & 65's have day leagues on Saturday and we have a 70's leagues that have a day league on Tuesday. We now have the option of playing nights since we have two (2)lighted fields (that are partially committed to senior softball). I am in favor of playing in a 60's night league. We do have league opt out dates for teams who play tournaments. Some of the 60's players do not like playing at night because they don't see the ball that well at night.
Feb. 28, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
410 posts
it is getting to the point that if we dont start supporting SSUSA AND SPA in texas, ( north and south ) they just might depart for greener pastures. the tournament sched for 2011 reads as follows : SSUSA- el paso, dallas kiest park state championships, and college station. SPA- HAS 2 - georgetown and baytown. FOR THE TOURNAMENT TEAMS FROM BOTH AREAS, it will get more expensive to travel out of state. you can verify my lists for accuracy. SO THERE IT IS, BOYS, YOU TAKE IT FROM HERE. " SUPPORT THE ASSOCIATIONS OR LOSE THEM ! " and no, i dont work for either association. just my .02 c. frank a. texas legends 65's.
Feb. 28, 2011
JBTexas
Men's 65
264 posts
We play both SPA tourneys and three of SSUSA that is we can afford other other Nationals.
Feb. 28, 2011
Capt Kirk
410 posts
We played six (6) SSUSA tournaments in 2010:
1) TOC
2) Four in TX- Georgetown, Dallas, College Station, & Boerne.
3) We also played in world championship in Phoenix.
We probably will play only two (2) SSUSA tournaments in TX IN 2011. Georegtown & Dallas (I don't believe that Boerne is scheduled in 2011).
We may go Las Vegas instead Phoenix.
This year is the money thing that prevents us from playing in more SSUSA tournament. We will play in some local tournaments to stay competitive.
Feb. 28, 2011
LP
297 posts
since ss-usa in tx starts on fridays this year it will keep our 60's team from making as many tournaments as we would like to. SPA is out altogether because they start on friday. it's either the directors dont think that 60's still work or they just dont care if that division makes. we have to save our vacation days to make the world tournaments. so its the sat. and sun. tournament we will look for. our team wants to suport senior softball assocs.
Feb. 28, 2011
TexasTransplant
Men's 70
421 posts
I believe that, for the most part, it takes someone locally who is willing to do the leg work to organize a tournament (procure facilities, get it sanctioned, line up umpires, do the scheduling, etc). Of course, you have to have the fields, but we've regularly attended some tournaments that have less than plush facilities. I've played local tournaments in SA a couple of times. Who organized those?

There was a tourney (SPA I believe) there a few years ago. It was held on one of the military facilities (maybe Brooke). It was just a one year thing, as far as I know. Not a great turnout, but it takes a while for word to get around about a new event.

On the subject of Texas tourneys, the coach of our team (which is mainly Arkansas based) has heard that there might be an SPA event in Plano that is not yet on the schedule. Anyone know anything about that?
March 1, 2011
JBTexas
Men's 65
264 posts
TT, that tournament was at Ft. Sam, due to expand at BAMC fields aren't there any more, we have local tournaments but SPA or SSUSA can organize one of their tournaments, won't use local help. Now NSA is getting involved in locally in Austin, to many Assocations to get involved with, we played in 10 tournaments last year, counting local ones, that is costly for a self funded team. Add National Sr. Games($750) in Houston that we are doing this year, it a full plate.
March 1, 2011
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
LP you have hit the nail on the head,60's still work now a days,but it seems the assoc don't care.also it has happen that we(60's) have to stay thur thru sundays sometimes and it costs us another hotel day(3 vs 2),i don't see any of the other age groups having to do 3 nites.i don't work now and am on a fixed income,and it will stop me from attending all tourneys by starting on friday instead of saturday,unless i know for sure we won't have to play on sunday.
March 1, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
I think they care, but the bigger ones like PHX, Reno, Cal Cup and some others would make it tough to get all the teams in in two days and you know it.

Now some smaller ones it shouldn't be a problem if the field numbers were there.
As it is, some T's were running late games and others only played two days anyway. It is finding the happy medium that is the problem.

March 1, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
I see where it gets very frustrating waiting to see who is entered and when you do, its usually too late to get out given a full refund us well before announcement time. Something like 90 days.
Then only to find out only 2-3 tams are in your bracket.
Just hope its someone different.

But they need to plan and schedule bracket and arrange teams too.
Over all I think many could go to Sat\Sun and work. Others, No Way.
March 7, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
410 posts
TEXAS TRANSPLANT- JIM- you asked and it has been scheduled by SPA IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, LONE STAR NATLS AT HERITAGE POINT IN PLANO,TX. on may 19 thru 5/22. I HOPE TEXAS TEAMS WILL SUPPORT IT. check the sched for the age group dates. JIM- this park is 2 blocks from your house,right ?? why dont we sched a team BBQ at your back yard , we can bring the beer. just an idea! hope you can convince your wife ! frank a
March 7, 2011
JBTexas
Men's 65
264 posts
This may not happen due to conflict with THC tournament in georgetown that weekend, words is they are looking to change dates for the SPA tournament??
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