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April 11, 2011
Jetboy
63 posts
Local leagues testing bats
Anyone else doing this? Our league will not only require the proper ASA logo but will conduct their own testing and put a unique hologram on each bat before it can be used in league play this year.
April 11, 2011
angus73
Men's 50
97 posts
Some of the leagues I play in have long requird an ASA stamp but thats as far as it went. I have read some info concerning some possible testing of composite bats. Questions come up about who is doing the testing and if they are qualifyed. If it is a compression test how much damage is being done to the bat and after your bat passes what prevents the cheater from shaving his bat then. Unless you find a way to put the hologram on the end cap where it makes contact with the barrel.

Also; just played a tournament where the bats were furnished; two bats, 26 and 28 oz. handed out and collected for each game.
April 11, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
What City is it? There is a bat just around the corner that will solve all the problems with cheating. Its a one piece carbon fiber solid core bat. (no end cap) I cant see the use of a hologram as it only verifies what is on the bat and tells the umpire its not on the ASA black list. Useless if the bat was shaved already. Still I'd like to know what city is doing this.
April 12, 2011
Jetboy
63 posts
This would be in Midland Michigan. I haven't seen what kind of device they are using to test with but I assume it does some kind of compression test. It would detect bats that had been shaved but not bats that are shaved after getting the hologram.
April 12, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
671 posts
This was done at the ASA Nationals in Burlington N.C. this year. There was a machine that tested the compression or something like that. It held up one game for about 20 minutes or more. They tested all the bats in both dugouts. Thanks Harry
April 12, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
Harry and Jetboy: Thanks for the info. With bats equipped with the iCap this wouldn't have happen. Just a sweep of a device like a smart phone the light goes green or red. Green your good to go. Its the future IMO. It will take some time but it will happen. The new technology in carbon fiber bats is mind blowing. Look for more info as I get it.
April 12, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
671 posts
Marv19, I did order the Spirit bat and decided to wait for the new model. Have you hit it as of yet. I am on the IR for awhile but I hope that I will not be disappointed. Thanks Harry
April 12, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
Harry: Not Yet. I'm not going to be a good test as I have never broken anything. I once had a guy give me a bat that was cracked and said "its Ok its on the last leg". I used it 3 times and it didn't break :O) BTW smart move on the new Spirit. But I still love mine end cap and all :O)
April 13, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
marv here we go again,promoting a bat that you are assoc with,the guy only asked if any leagues were using bat testing,and not looking for an ad for another bat,also demarini had a chip(so i hope that ASU hasn't infringe on that) in one of their bats and that didn't last very long.mfg'ers don't care if a bat gets shaved/rollled,just means they won't have to replace it if sent in b/c of a so called defect in it.also once a person has sent in a dirty bat the mfg'er will never replace any bat that person sends in regardless if it has been altered or not,they will be blacklisted.
April 13, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
Mad Dog: I'm sorry but either you're confused or I'm confused. If the US Patent Office issues a Patent to ASU how does it infringe on another patent? Isn't that the reason you spend the big bucks researching a patent in the first place? Please explain? IMO I think a bat manufacturer should care if a bat is altered. Not from a warranty standpoint but I would think they wouldn't want to be involved in any litigation where their bat was perceived as the cause of a death or a serious incident. Not only the guy holding the bat will get sued but the stick manufacturer, The park, the promoter if there is one and the the guy that shaved it. Who will loose? The guy that has the most to loose and the most money usually. I know of one bat manufacturer that would care.... There I go again :O)
Last night during rec after I left the field a young stud with a Miken Freak (the most popular shaved bat) hit the pitcher with a bullet. I asked Val the Park director on staff what are you going to do with the obvious bat problem here. Her response was this. If somebody gets seriously injured we will confiscate the bat and call the police. The bat will be sent for testing and then the results given to the police department. She said thats all we can do right now. Agree or disagree but until we give the cities more ammunition this is all they can do.
April 13, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
just saying marv that demarini had one in their bats when the juice came out,was just wondering how ASU's is different then theirs.

like i said mfg'ers will make no money on bats that won't break as there will be no buying of extra bats.in order to get performance out of a bat they need to be able to flex,flexing promotes break down inside a bat,and that ends up breaking the bat...just saying.... so where is the money made...

April 13, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
Mad Dog: I'm really not following you. Who has a bat that wont break? The subject line is about Local Leagues Testing bats. I just added my knowledge of a way to lessen the juiced bat problem. All C.F. bats will breakdown eventually. What most on this list want is a COM-U2 or an MIK-BAT if you get my drift. I think there will be such a bat soon. AND made in the USA I might add. oops I did it again :O)

As for the chip I have no idea what DeMarini had but obviously it wasn't the same as the iCap which will give you a lot of information about the bat it is installed in. Not necessarily just shaving.
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