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April 27, 2011
TOMAR77
Men's 55
200 posts
Hotels ?
SSUSA , are you going to provide reccomendations for Hotels at the Western Regionals? We the Git-R-Done 55 team plan on participating and would like to plan our accommadations.
Thank You , Tommy Mgr.
April 28, 2011
gott2play
Men's 55
146 posts
Tommy, if you're talking about the Western Nationals in Woodland, stay at the Best Western Shadow Inn. Great rates, clean remodeled rooms, pool, jacuzzi, and a gas station and restaurant right next door. It's right off I-5 and about 2 miles for the playing facility. Great hotel. We've stayed there the last two years but for some reason SSUSA didn't list them on their preferred hotel last year...go figure.

Tony Baltazar
#22 Barcelona Bandits - 50 major
#35 So Cal 55's _ 55 Major

Best Western Shadow Inn
584 North East Street
Woodland, CA 95776
(530) 666-1251
April 28, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
TOMAR, props to you!

The West is NOT a 'nation', it is a REGION!

Western "Nationals". LOL ROFL
April 28, 2011
gott2play
Men's 55
146 posts
Gary19,
Who cares what they call it..it is what it is, a friggin' senior tournament! They call Phoenix the Worlds, what about that? TOMAR was just asking about accommodations, why make it any more than that.
April 28, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Someone must care, or there would not be Spring Nationsls, Winter Nationals, Eastern Nationals, Western Nationals, I-am-going-to-keep-playing-in-multiple-nationals-until-I-win-one Nationals.

I could swear the NCAA only runs one Nationals per sport per year. I think there is only one Super Bowl played each year. Only one U.S. Open. And so on and so on and..................

TOMAR's post was fine, he realizes the West is a region, NOT a nation. I wasn't making anything out of his post.
April 28, 2011
TOMAR77
Men's 55
200 posts
Thank's to both Scott & Tony for your recommendations. I will check them out for our Team.
Tomar
April 28, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
445 posts
Associations put "nationals" in the name for marketing purposes. In NHRA Drag Racing there are the Winter Nationals, Spring Nationals, Summer Nationals, Gator Nationals and so on. As a matter of fact all 23 major events all over the USA are named Nationals. It's their way of telling the world that all participants can come from all over. Some even come from other countries. I suspect its the same with SSUSA. It's to say all are welcome. It really boils down to semantics how you choose to market your product in the end.
April 28, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3939 posts
marv that is to simple,he would rather argue......
April 28, 2011
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
Imagine that, another negative comment from Gary19 that has nothing to do with the intent of the post or the person responding! Someone really needs to get a life!
April 29, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
No sad pup, it has always been understood it is for marketing. To appeal to the insecure who want to be able to tell their grandkids they went to 'nationals'.

Clearly the associations are disciples of P.T. Barnum.

Pitcherman, at least in my life there is an understanding that the West is a REGION.
April 29, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1985 posts
In a perfect world we could all travel cross country to play a 3 day tournament every time we got the urge to, but in reality one or two major travel tournaments is all we can afford as teams. Why be a grinch? Let us have the fun of calling it Nationals!! Why is it such a big thing to you, Gary? (OCS?) Is it a compulsion for you to be negative on every issue? Is it just 'in your blood' to chop down the game most of us love to the point that we hit the field a step or two away from being in the hospital from some injury or malady? Why not just kick back and enjoy the ride that SSUSA gives us to be able to play at our ages? We are some of the most fortunate people on earth to be able to do this!! In 30 years who is going to care who won what anyway?? We will remember that we played and competed and had fun!!
April 29, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Negative? No Webbie.

Factually accurate? Is there something now wrong with that?

Why isn't "Regionals" sufficient? It is bad enough Seniors have to have special bats to feel good, now they have to call the West a nation to have fun.

Not to mention it cheapens what are true Nationals.

The game got chopped down by seniors before I started playing it. Special bats, whacky rules, misnamed tournaments. Let's play "the game", and enjoy it. Not some version made for the insecure.
April 29, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1985 posts
Ok, Gary-put your money where your mouth is and invest it in the "Traditional Softball Association of America" presented by Gary19. As owner, you can call tournaments anything you want to, and go back to playing regular(in your view) softball, with no 'wacky' rules, the way the game was meant to be played. Let me know when the first tournament is and where. It is easy to criticize, but more difficult to actually present an alternative.
April 29, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Webbie, sadly no one would come. The Senior game has been over-run by the insecure and prideless among us.

You keep right on thinking the East and West are now their own nations, and that you earned your "Miken" home runs. And enjoy playing on fields that soon might look like miniature golf holes with pitchers that look more like Patrick Roy than Don Arndt.
April 29, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1985 posts
Well, you just insulted (again) every senior player out here with that statement, Unhappy Canine that you are. If they backed off the Mikens and the like for next year to bats the level that we had 10 yrs ago, I would be surprised if the amount of teams would decrease much at all. Most of us play for the love of the game, the competition and the comaraderie. That will never change. We would adjust, again, to the game and it would be fun. That's the fun of the game. It adjusts to age (little league works well with smaller dimensions and abilities, all the way up to the Major Leagues) and provides competition at every level despite every 'tweaking' that it has had. Don't worry, the 'pendulum' will eventually swing back to a more moderate game. It always has.
April 29, 2011
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Mark,
I think if that happened then the ball would be targeted. After all the 47\525 used to be the ball of choice back then. Worth Super Duper 52's were even better.
But the bats were upgraded and to compensate for that the balls were down graded to where they now are FAIRLY CLOSE to even.
Somehow I just don't see the changes happening and can't see the manufacturers retooling for more R & D on that.
But if they did, there are surely still many companies that are in the US that still have their extruders for making the barrels.
Interesting process if you get the chance to see it done, do it.
April 29, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Webbie, we can only hope. :)

And while being insulting was not intended, if there are guys out there who see themselves among the "insecure and prideless" who insist on the special bats and all the changes associated with them, and having the West and East now become nations instead of regions, perhaps they need to reflect on what they have become.

I use them because I would without insisting on all of the whacky rules they seem to have caused, but my kids laugh at using bats on one else can use. Lord knows what I would hear if I came home from the Eastern "Nationals". Thank God for 6th grade Geography class.
April 29, 2011
gott2play
Men's 55
146 posts
Unbelievable fellas... this started out as a request for hotel recommendations, and somehow (but not surprisingly) morphed into the bat / ball combination subject...again. What's the common denominator here, any guesses? C'mon man! Just play ball.
April 29, 2011
TOMAR77
Men's 55
200 posts
Jeez!? All I wanted was info. on Hotels. I have no problem orgaizations calling their "own" events what ever they wish. I agree with Marv it is all in the marketing. Although the Thread was hi-jacked it dosen't bother me, however the Bat/Ball issue has been beat'n to death. As, gott2play wrote, "Just Play Ball".
April 29, 2011
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
Duke 11, well said.
Marv, only 21 NHRA Nationals, 1 World Finals.
There are other more important events that are classified as Nationals though. In Ohio for example, there is the Ohio National Poultry Show, The Ohio National Youth Poultry Show sponsored by Meyer Hatchery, The Flowrestling Nationals, and the Gene Mills Nationals and Ohio Tournament of Champions! Isn't it silly Ohio thinks they are now a nation! Wonder if they'll come up with THE Jim Tressel Nationals!
April 30, 2011
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
I seem to remember this EXACT conversation last year with the same people voicing their opinion on it. They call these things "Qualifiers", Nationals" and "Worlds" to try to get more teams to attend. They are just senior tournaments until the big one in Phoenix. It is a little ridiculous they call them all these things. We played in a "recreational" tournament a couple of weeks ago and it was a one of the most enjoyable events we have played in a long time with rules we (the players) wanted to play with...and there was even T-Shirts for All-Stars intead of generic patches that don't say what it's for!

As for hotels in Woodland, don't they have to decide where the different age groups are going to play? It's my understanding that these complexes are quite a distance apart.
May 1, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1985 posts
Sorry about the hijacking-not intended-I'm out!
May 10, 2011
boston
306 posts
So Gary in reality The World Series is not a World Series. It is the champioship for MLB. It falls in line with the NBA championhip, Super Bowl (NFL championship) and Stanley Cup (NHL championship). the only true World titles and should be labeled as such are the World Cup, Olympics, Little League World Series etc..
Everything else is a fraud.
May 10, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Obviously the World Series does not cover the world and all who play baseball on it, as it once did. But the West was never a nation.

Just wondering, you really think Western Nationals makes any sense? Well, except as a weak marketing ploy.
May 10, 2011
stick8
1306 posts
Do the "World Poker Championships" count as a real world tournament?
May 10, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I have no idea. Perhaps.

But I do know the West, as well as the East, are not their own nations.
May 11, 2011
stick8
1306 posts
No they aren't nations. Perhaps they could rename them the Eastern Championships or the Western Championships.
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