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Discussion: New rule for the pitcher

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Nov. 22, 2005
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
New rule for the pitcher
Just read on another board that the WSA had a new rule that if a hit ball hit the pitcher it become dead. what do our senior players think? will it help or hurt softball? I picth some and do have some balls that comes hard and hit me sometimes but it is hard to hit a running target.
Don Ward
Miken/Old South/STW
Nov. 22, 2005
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
the rule is,if you hit the pitcher on a line drive only without him getting the glove on the ball,the batter is out and dead ball.if the ball hits the ground first then its play on,also if in the mind of the umpire the ball should have been fielded its play on(this to stop pitchers from letting soft liners hit them for the out).the rule is basically to stop some of the head hunting that can go on.by the way i know b/c i've ump for WSA.chris runs very good tourney's.we seniors might look into his ASSOC.
Nov. 22, 2005
Pieman
Men's 50
86 posts
I am a pitcher until this year have pretty much avoided injury. However this year at Glen Bernie I was hit by a batted ball that broke my leg putting me on the disabled list for almost two months.
I say hitting the middle is part of the game and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

I needed to be in an athletic position and field my position.

Just my opinion.

Mike Santo Friedlander Softball
Nov. 22, 2005
Mitch
Men's 50
68 posts
Everyone who thinks we need more rules in softball needs to read the reply from "Pieman".
Hit by a batted ball and broke his leg and still thinks that hitting the middle is part of the game. I agree with his statement.
The more rules we have, the more it takes away from the game. I don't think there is a rule that says a pitcher "can't" wear shin garuds or some knid of a face shield so the option is there for the pitcher to take protective measures.
They need to leave the rules alone and figure out what can be done "within" the rules.
Nov. 22, 2005
Duke
Men's 60
729 posts
I pitch and have been hit a few times in 40 years. Rules to protect the pitcher have been made already, but stupid rules like making it an out just ruins the game. A pitcher can wear a face guard and shin guards. They have let the pitcher pitch from a farther distance. The only change that I would entertain is an unlimited pitching height. That gives the pitcher a chance to be ready defensively, as well as move back several feet. It makes it a little more difficult to hit so many home runs and hard shots. I play unlimited arc in 2 of my leagues now, and it is fun and a challenge.
Nov. 22, 2005
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Duke,

Spoken like a true pitcher, lol. Unlimited arc is not the answer. We will end up playing 4 inning games while the pitchers play Jarts with the mat. You pitch but you also hit. Do you want to try and hit an unhittable pitch or take it and watch it hit the back of the mat? The next step will be to get rid of the batterís box so that hitters can have a chance. Iíd rather have ëem take the bats away and hit with a piano leg. Just my humble opinion.
Nov. 23, 2005
Duke
Men's 60
729 posts
Ken,

That was very humble of you. LOL! You make one good point and probably true point, our innings played would be less. As far as hitting, I have no problem hitting whatever pitch. Just have to hit more pitches to the opposite field.
Nov. 23, 2005
mort
Men's 70
31 posts
I have pitched since 50+ which is approximately 20 years. I think we have done enough for the pitchers to "protect" them. The problem is with the pithers that should not be pitching because they dont have the ability and quickness to field the position. All they do is try to get the ball over and stand there as a target.

I also am a hitter that likes to use the middle when I can since I am not a power hitter. We are changing the game that we all love so much that a lot of good players are leaving. This holds true for the proposed changes against homeruns(which I have never hit).

I beleive that the game should be left as it is to insure its integrity. There have been some needed changes to take the contact out of the game which improves Senior ball. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Mort- Millers 65
Nov. 23, 2005
TaterinGa
Men's 50
179 posts
I have not posted in a while, but the true logical thing here to do is to make ANY HOME RUN A SINGLE after the HR allotment is passed; because almost every power hitter that I have talked with changes their swing when the HR's are gone. A special thanks to the AD's that have changed the ruling. It takes 4 HR's in most assoc. to equal one run & there are FEW teams that will hit 4 HR's back to back, whereas a double & a single could net a run.

Tater
Nov. 23, 2005
Airbosn
Men's 65
322 posts
I never give "Hitting the Pitcher" much though...I pitch in open leagues, over 30 league, over 55 and 60 when not playing the outfield. To me hitting middle has always been a part of the game. I sometimes throw a pitch hoping the batter will come middle for the double play. BTW...The pitching -box behind the rubber gives a good fielding pitcher time to pitch and break down for the batted ball.
One more point. I believe that homers should be allowed and never be an out. A single maybe but never an out.
Nov. 23, 2005
Proudtex40
57 posts
In my opinion the best rule to come along in a long time is allowing the pitcher to stand up to 6 ' behind the rubber. I hate to see more changes 'cause it's taking away a big part of the game. I do some pitching and I definitely hit the middle as well (when I have to). I've been hit by batters and unfortunately (and unintentionally) I've hit pitchers, but that's just a part of the game. I agree that balls hit over the fence should be singles (after hitting the HR limit) which most pitchers love because it keeps the batter from hitting the middle (in most cases). Just my opinion though. Happy Turkey Day to all.
Steve Shannon
Nov. 23, 2005
dillon
9 posts
Any good hitter will tell you that If any pitcher pitches the ball down the middle of the plate it's going to be hit up the middle. If he pitches it inside to a righthanded hitter it's going to be pulled. If he pitches outside to a right handed hitter it going to be hit to the opposite field.
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