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Aug. 18, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
tater50
will be going out this weekend and have enough of the 52 balls to hit now.i have a few usssa type,and some asa.i'm gonna hit all of a tee and use a metal and composite bats.tell me what else you want to know....
Aug. 19, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Robert.
4x4 pointed out that off a tee means
little with respect to testing a restricted flight ball.
You need live pitching and the more live
the better to tell if a ball will work
well enough to sustain interest, joy
and investment in playing.

Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
really who gives a crap what you think.if that is so why do all these labs test using mechanical devices,instead of live pitching and such.in testing you take out as many of the variables as possible when looking for one thing of a product,you don't go adding to them.please learn a bit about product testing.


secondly this is between tater and me and you don't count,get it..........
Aug. 19, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Robert, what vitriol!
And unprompted, again.
You can't handle the heat, son
get out of the kitchen.
"Who cares what you think"?
Now what kind of man would say
such an ignorant thing?

You got a major plus mouth
and a AAA behind
and you just make it more obvious
with every syllable.
You're doing all to yourself, Bob.
Aug. 19, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
616 posts
Actually, hitting live pitching versus the tee is a preference for testing purposes. There is absolutely no proof to suggest there would be a difference in determining the results. Hitting with the tee might actually be more of an advantage for consistency purposes. So the only difference would be in the swing.
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
pricer that is what i'm going for,consistency.i want as many of the variables taken out of the equation,as possible.this not a how to hit this ball,but how does the ball react when hit test.to do this i want as static a setup as possible,with very few variables to have to contend with.





now whiney i may be a AAA but you are afraid of my challenge of 10 of me against 10 of you.....so keep talking,you make me look so good with your slanderous self and non commitment to the challenge.
Aug. 21, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
ok tater50,did a little test today.i'm 5'10",set the tee at belly button height first round,then raised about 8" for second round.used my reebok melee 34-27 el,combat lady virus 33-26,syn-2 34-26,combat anti-virus 34-26 el,demarini 375 34-26(double wall metal bat).used
asa 52-275/300 balls(i had both comps)and worth 52 275 hot dot.for the 44's,i used senior balls both trump stotes and baden fires.

i hit 2 52's over a 300' fence and 2 senior balls over for 20 balls hit,10 each.all others were close to the fence or good hard line drives thru the in field
obagain was with me and did the same using his reebok melee 34-28(2 and 2 over the fence).over all we both thought they were just about as equal to the 44's ,off the tee.hope this helps ya some tater......
Aug. 21, 2011
crusher
Men's 70
380 posts
mad dog - good way to set up a test, this is a way to test your very best swing.
It is so difficult to actually time and swing with your max speed at a ball that is moving and really not in a perfect spot to strike based on your position in the box and the ball will strike some part of the plate.
I would think in an actual game the ball will remain in the park 99.9% of the time. If so with a slower ball, run production should go way down for 65+ and older teams.
Aug. 21, 2011
obagain
Men's 50
56 posts
In a test like this you have to use a tee, too many things to factor in with pitching.
If you did this test with live pitching and got the results we did today the first thing some would say is the pitching could make a huge difference.
If you hit line drives you wont hardly notice a difference in the ball, the difference is when you mishit it, the 52 does not reward a bad swing, I like that.
If you are a HR hitter you will still hit HR's.
I have seen a pitcher take a pretty good shot with these balls and come away with nothing more than a small bruise, that is a good thing.
If they would find a little more balance, give us a bit more performance and keep the injury factor low I wouldnt mind hitting these.
My big thing is will they make a ball with several association stamps so we can use 1 ball all the time instead of buying 3 different balls that are all the same but dont have all the stamps.
Aug. 21, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3919 posts
crusher tater wanted a static test done and that is what we did.to really test a ball,you don't want to be chasing it like you said,you want it to be in one spot so you can put a good swing on it...i test my bats all the time this way and break them in this way,since i don't have a regular BP partner that lives close to me.

like OB says,you need to hit this ball with a good smooth swing and not just a swinging from the heels type swing.good mechanics is a must with this ball.

we also hit 1 ball of each during the test,1- 52,then 1- 44,just so we would not tire out just hitting all of one and then go hit the other ball.it was interesting i must say.
Aug. 22, 2011
Tater50
333 posts
MadDog/Obagain: appreciate the test.

Tater50
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