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Discussion: Grand Slam but didn't touch 1B

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Sept. 10, 2011
JoeB
7 posts
Grand Slam but didn't touch 1B
Batter hit a Grand Slam with one out but never touched 1B. I called the batter out but let the other 3 runs score.
Note: In our Senior league, if a batter hits a HR all players on base only need touch the next base. (I don't think our modify rule effects the above question.)
Sept. 10, 2011
neck10
498 posts
there's so many different rules about this most of the time you dont have to touch any base thats to speed game up & the runners dont have to touch any base either which makes more since but I have played where everyone must touch one basde(which makees no since at all,but even if this is the rule if both teams agree the ump will go along with you)just like anything else just get the rules before the game then your good to go.
Sept. 10, 2011
17Black
Men's 50
220 posts
I could never figure this out---seems like if we want to speed the game up and the ball is a homer, why bother touching any base, it's a homer let all the runs score?

From a purist standpoint---everybody probably should touch one base? I believe the last few tournaments I was in we all had to touch the next base.

Guys in our "league" have option of touching a base or running all the way around the bases. One of our guys hits a lot of HR's in tournaments and the other teams often get PO'd at him for running it out------he's not showing anybody up, just what we do in our league and he's usually over half way to 2nd before the ball clears the fence anyway.

We have so many modified rules as it is anyway-----I know why we "should" touch at least one base but if I were an ump---which I'm not---I'd probably let it slide, and let it count???

It's over the fence---not like somebody would have thrown him out?

I agree with above, set the rule before the game (or tournament) and it is what it is.

I'd rather see players get dinged for not wearing matching uniforms or "something" :)
Sept. 10, 2011
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
afa defense has to appeal.. usually I holler out everybody touch one base and sometimes you'll still get people walk off...coaches should be made aware at plate meeting what the rule is..then there's no problem.. cover your ass..
Sept. 11, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
We had that happen in State Baseball tournament in Iowa too many years ago. With 2 outs our guy hit a grand slam. They appealed at first that he missed the base and the ump called him out. After a 2 hour argument-until after midnight and having to go to a nearby town for a rule book, they ruled 3rd out and ZERO runs, since the out was called at first base. Correct call-just as if he had grounded out to the pitcher.
Sept. 11, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
We had a call like that this weekend here at the Senior Olympics in New Mexico. A guy hit a home run that was only a single because of the 1-up then single rule, with a guy on third. The runner from third proceeded home and TOUCHED THE REGULAR PLATE instead of the safety plate. The umpires put him back on third and the hitter on first, which I contend is wrong. With the rule of having to touch one base after a home run and all runners advancing one base on a HR/Single, it is NOT a dead ball until the runners touch the next base, and the act of touching home plate makes the runner out without appeal. Any comments?? Stick8-are you out there?
Sept. 11, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
334 posts
Webbie with the one-up/ single rule I beleive that the umpire is correct in the situation as you described.Base runners need to be forced to move up one base.Same thing if the runner was on second and no runner on first.Runner would remain at second-HR hitter on first base.
Sept. 11, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
titan-I was unclear with you-they decided in the managers meeting that all runners, forced or not, advance one base on a HR/single.
Sept. 11, 2011
Freddie
Men's 55
108 posts
as a coach I'm always watching the bases touched on a HR. (1)what happens if the batter/runner touched the outside base(this base is used only when there's a play @ 1st) is he out? (2) if the base runner is forced to touch a base & walks out of the baseline & then goes back to touch the next base after a lot of yelling, is he out?

Agave
Sept. 11, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
These kinds of discussions are what happens when silly rules are used.

17Black (Gary), you call them "modified", as you can see I just call them silly. :)

Play the game the way it was intended!
Sept. 11, 2011
stick8
1295 posts
JoeB I believe that's an appeal play.
Sept. 12, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
webbie,was he force to run,if so he is out for touching wrong plate,if he had to stay and went home and wasn't allowed to,then he goes back to third,as that is where he should be.prolly save an out if he wasn't forced to move one base.
Sept. 12, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
mad dog-all runners move up one base, forced or not on a HR/single. When informed he proceeded to touch the actual home plate rather than the safety home.
Sept. 12, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
then he should of been out.........
Sept. 12, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
That's my contention-thanks!
Sept. 14, 2011
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
Freddie, #1) he's not out #2) not out unless he left field of play..

What's up with 60's for next year ?????? LMK
Sept. 14, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
You are correct Vinny-the baseline thing is if you leave the baseline to avoid a tag.
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