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Discussion: new ASA rules

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Oct. 29, 2011
Faulkner45
20 posts
new ASA rules
I have heard that asa is going to start useing senior bats next year does anybody have any info on that?
Oct. 29, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
324 posts
I thought it was only for the Senior National Tournament.They would still use the ASA current ball.The thought is that it would draw more teams.
Oct. 30, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
"draw more teams"? Sad, if true. So much for so many who claim guys will play no matter the bats. According to this, I guess not.
Oct. 30, 2011
ballman555
2 posts
Not to Hijack your discussion but have heard that NSA will be using senior bats but a 52-275 ball and saw it being used in Boaz at a national tournament and they were hitting it well.
Oct. 31, 2011
neck10
488 posts
what about u-trip they have always had better bats than asa cant believe they will let asa move ahead of them???????? neither one of them get the numbers at their tourneys I bet this will help.
Oct. 31, 2011
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
neck, it's also about play dates and location, not just bats. There are a lot of cities that are harder to get to by air, and, more expensive. If you look at air costs to Vegas for example, they are more attractive than to lots of other venues. Where would a team and wives rather travel to, Burlington or Vegas? It's more than just bats. Have to look at the entire picture.
Oct. 31, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
324 posts
It's not play dates. ASA Tourney is always Labor day. Burlington is not that bad if you're just going to play softball.AND ASA has only ONE National.Not 4 or 5 like some of the other associations. WIVES???? When I look at my tourney schedule and where we're playing I don't see WIVES any where in the picture. Until wives start playing second base,hitting .700 or runnng down a fly ball they can stay at home.

Yep. And I'll tell the next one I get the same thing!lol!
Nov. 1, 2011
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
They would have had TWO if they had not cancelled all the WEST Nationals in Colorado. Perhaps the proposed rules will allow them to have TWO.
Nov. 1, 2011
bernie
Men's 55
64 posts
Senior bats for the Senior(50+)divisions have not yet been approved for ASA. There is a code change that has to be voted on and approved at the ASA National Convention next week and needs to be approved by a majority of voting members before that happens. One of the biggest supporters now of the proposal is RB Thomas from the ISF/ISSA, an allied partner with ASA. In the ASA family, many opinions surrounding senior bats have changed significantly over the past three years, including his, when players stopped supporting the tournaments with ASA bats. It will be a battle between those who think ASA sets the standard for the game as a whole and those who want to promote the senior game...The outcome of the vote is up in the air for sure since the senior program is but a tiny part of ASA as a whole. Hope this clears it up.
Nov. 1, 2011
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
They are also voting on two proposals on moving the bases to 70'. 1 is to move the bases to 70' and the other is to move the bases to 70' except for the Senior div.

Also voting on widening the batters box to 4'. Reason with the Astro Turf fields the batters box doesn't get wiped out and more and more batters are being called out for being out of the batters box.
Nov. 2, 2011
neck10
488 posts
cureball getting into detroit for the usssa tourney is not a problem all kind of flights.I just like to go play softball have all winter & three other weekends of the month in the summer to go to vegas & places like that.the bats are the biggest issue for us we swing seior bats all year then have to leave them at home for asa & usssa nationals.we use asa bats in our senior leauge but would change if asa changes.
Dec. 2, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Faulkner: Our ASA Vector-0 is a great bat. After many hits, it is almost as hot as our Melee Sr bat. It also comes with a 1 yr warranty, can hit in cold weather and is approved by ASA, USSSA, ISA, and NSA. Give me a call. Ed 970.729-3145
Dec. 3, 2011
Faulkner45
20 posts
thanks surf the misses got me one for Christmas
Dec. 4, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
surf88, I know that you are a Reebok rep. but... An ASA bat being almost as hot as the senior melee? Really? LOL
Dec. 4, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
324 posts
Hombre I agree. Also, why would you buy the Vector for ASA when with the new rule change you can use the Melee Senior ?
Dec. 20, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
hombre; We had a batting tent at Papago Park in Phoenix in October. We got our Vector's in on Tuesday and let everyone hit with them. 40's, 50's, 55's and 60's hit with them and I was blown away at the outcome. I brought my 28 to the location and it got well over 1,000 hits from a lot of big and small players. Lots of players told me the Vectors had nearly as much pop as our senior bats. My Vector had more performance at the end of the 12 days than when I arrived.

If anyone out there happened to visit our hitting tent and hit with the Reebok Vector, chime in here. I'm ok with your feedback. Ed
Dec. 20, 2011
neck10
488 posts
curveball you can get to detroit pretty easy from anywhere in the country for the USSSA.there was one 55+ major plus team there last year & it was a michigan team the two major teams in 55+ were from michigan also.You should pull teams from ohio,pa.west virginia ky.,illinois,wisconson & michigan
Dec. 20, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
surf88; I have not hit with this bat so I'm not disputing your comments, but I respectfully question that any bat approved by ASA could perform like the senior melee. I consider the senior melee one of the, if not the, hottest senior bats.

Was the batting tent open so that you could actually see how far the ball traveled? Or were you hitting into a screen. If it's as good as advertised, you won't be able to keep them in supply. Will anyone have them at classic spring training in Jacksonville? Good luck
Dec. 20, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
We didn't have room in the tent to determine distance but we did hit one day on an open field. My Vector was a bit dull in the beginning but with more and more hits, it became really lively. We'll try to get one/some there.
Dec. 20, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
with curt hollis running the CST and being a reebok rep himself,there should be all of the reebok bats there.if i remember right they had their bats there last year to demo.
Dec. 21, 2011
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
Neck10-LATE RESPONCE(didn't see your reply) been to Detroit many times, relatives in Dearborn Heights. I don't see that many teams that would have to take a softball trip would prefer Detroit to Vegas.............
Dec. 22, 2011
neck10
488 posts
I guess not but a lot more pleasant than vegas in july.(have a few casino's )
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