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Discussion: 2012 Tournament Entry Fee Increase

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Nov. 10, 2011
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
2012 Tournament Entry Fee Increase
Based on the 2012 tournaments that have been posted so far, it appears entry fees are going up an average of 5-6%. This is even higher than the national inflation rate. The inflation rate in the United States was last reported at 3.9% in September of 2011.
Nov. 11, 2011
Senior Moments
Men's 60
57 posts
Brett: We can now factor in the cost of softballs at 2012 tournaments. Winter National teams received (6) new balls for the tournament and if they needed additional balls, the cost was $5.00 each ($60 a dozen).
Nov. 11, 2011
rightrj1
Men's 55
208 posts
I know this a business, but c-mon STAFF!...$5.00 per Ball, hell you can get a dozen for $39.95 all day long on any sales web site...Is that what teams will have to do now get their own BALLS?....Staff if we pruchase our OWN Trump 44core 375 balls with the Seniorsoftball logo, are we PERMITTED to use these in tournaments?
Nov. 11, 2011
Duke
Men's 60
720 posts
The best run tournaments are putting a higher price tag on us. Is this like the best basketball association(NBA), with their million dollar players and wealthy owners trying to mess with a great thing? LOL! Maybe not quite the same. These NBA players have quite a bit of money, and most of us do not. Like to NBA players are fighting for, I want my 50% off the top. LOL!

Andy Smith,
55 Major/60 Major Plus

Nov. 11, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
Not nearly the same, Duke. The players had 57%, if you can believe that. Have you ever heard of a business where the owners-read the ones with their money on the line--have to give 57% to their workers-read players that make more money in one year than most of us will make in 10 years or more?? Now they have been offered 51%. But they are ALL so rich and GREEDY I hope they have no season at all. Who is fighting for the fan and lower prices so we can take our family to games and not have to take out a mortgage??? It is so bad that last year one player making a couple million a year was complaining he had to feed his family on that. The NBA will never get one red cent from me.
Nov. 11, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
hey i'm with you guys,who the hell playing any game is worth over 10 mil a year,that is ridiculess....they should have a 4 tier pay system.A-D.A being the best and D being the back-ups and etc......yeah i know injuries can shorten a carrer,but like webbie says they make more in a year then i make in a lifetime.
Nov. 11, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Want some cheese with that whine, sad pup?

We all had the same opportunities to play pro sports as the guys who actually made it. So how can you cry about what they make? And do you really think if you pay them any less the ticet prics will drop? Or will the owners just get more?

Either way, it will cost you the same. And it is their fault you can't earn more than you do? C'mon, grow up!
Nov. 12, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
Gary Contrary-this has nothing to do with my feelings about having made it or not-period. I had my chances-blew them-and have reconciled myself to live with it. I'm doing fine.
What ticks me off is the arrogance of the NBA, the arrogance of the NFL to battle over their billions when our economy is in the tank. This is sports, for crying out loud. If we are going to tax something, tax these guys to death-not the corporations that at least provide the services and goods that keep our nation going. Besides, any tax will just be passed on to us in higher taxes. Just like taxes on these guys will be passed on in higher ticket prices. The difference is that sports is not a necessity. We would survive without sports. We won't survive without corporations. But, this is just another economic decision we, as a nation, are making. Wonder why we are declining?
Nov. 12, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Webbie,

I have no problem with your post. But the economy is irrelevant. If there was no money, then this debate would not be going on. There apparently is plenty of money in pro sports, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks about the economy, which by the way is down but is far from being "in the tank".

Little is a "necessity". Sure sports is not, but neither are TV, movies, popular music, and on and on. Yet who complains about what Tom Cruise makes, or Justin Bieber, or the Kardashians for Christ's sake? Who is wanting to tax them "to death"?

Athletes always seem, for some reason, to be the easy targets. Yes, they are arrogant. But you don't think Usher is? Or Chris Brown? Or Maroon Five?
Nov. 13, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
:-) I was just instigating!! Bottom line is, though, that we have our priorities in the wrong place. We have an educational system that is failing miserably, especially in NM with an over 50% drop out rate, we have a congress that is too busy trying to get re-elected and lining their pockets to take care of business (Both sides). Congress is where my anger really lies.
But, I have hijacked the thread-very sorry, Brett.
Nov. 13, 2011
stick8
1298 posts
Webbie I tend to think the NBA players will eventually settle because being locked out the players aren't getting those big paydays!! As far as senior tournament entry fees going up one reason might be tournaments that are ring tournaments. Buying rings for all the teams who win costs a lot of money, unless they buy a Cracker Jack box type ring!! lol
Nov. 14, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
It reminds me of the goose that laid the golden egg-kinda. The football players settled and when they did they even admitted that because of the high percentage the players got, that a lot of players will be paid more than they're worth. Say what???
Also, note my statement about Congress in the previous post. Did anyone see 60 minutes last night?? It seems Congress has exempted itself from insider trading laws and both Republicans and Democrats, who make huge decisions that can affect how companies are doing, are making millions by trading in the market knowing what those decisions will be. I've been saying this for years-we need to get Congress back to working for us and not their own pocketbooks. Vote them all out!!
Nov. 14, 2011
stick8
1298 posts
Correct me if I'm mistaken Webbie but as I understand it if no one attended any NFL games the teams would still make money because of the TV contract? Seems a bit odd.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to choose a career in politics. If you gain some measure of popularity the opposition will dig out and expose any dirt or skeletons you have in your closet!! What a business
Nov. 14, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
Stick8-they would for one year-then the tv contract would not be renewed. The point you make is one I have made this way for years.
Q-What do you need most to run for office?
A-$$$$$$
Q-Where would you get that amount of $$$$?
A-The Democrats or the Republicans and the companies that support each party.
Q-What else do you need a lot of?
A-EGO, to put up with all of the stuff they will pull up-real or not real, lies or not lies about you and your family.
Q-So who would put up with that?
A-Only an idiot would-which is why we only have idiots in office.
Q-How do you get the money from the parties?
A-Support their position 100% in every way.
Q-How do you keep the job?
A-Don't buck the system-go along with the party leadership with everything or they will make sure you never get any legislation through. Don't rock the boat.
Q-So there is nothing we can do?
A-I have no answer that I believe might break up this system---do you??
Nov. 14, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
A current season is certainly less likely now.
Nov. 14, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1981 posts
The goose that laid the golden egg. I understand the players are going to file an antitrust lawsuit. With the players already receiving 57% doesn't that make them the defendant??? Just saying......
Nov. 14, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
No doubt the entire things is stupid. But it is their lost revenue, and earnings, not mine. =)
Nov. 15, 2011
stick8
1298 posts
Webbie I'll add my $0.02 to your q & a which btw are very fair questions.
Q-What do you need most to run for office?
A-$$$$$$--Yes and a lot of time and energy to devote especially a national office
Q-Where would you get that amount of $$$$?
A-The Democrats or the Republicans and the companies that support each party.--yes and I have no issue with that. People and companies should be free to spend their money as they see fit.
Q-What else do you need a lot of?
A-EGO, to put up with all of the stuff they will pull up-real or not real, lies or not lies about you and your family.--Yes and the ability to properly deal with that so it doesn't hurt your campaign.
Q-So who would put up with that?
A-Only an idiot would-which is why we only have idiots in office.--lol
Q-How do you get the money from the parties?
A-Support their position 100% in every way.--follow along like blind sheep?
Q-How do you keep the job?
A-Don't buck the system-go along with the party leadership with everything or they will make sure you never get any legislation through. Don't rock the boat.--True but I'd also say being able to sell yourself to the voters--most all elected politicians are great salespersons
Q-So there is nothing we can do?
A-I have no answer that I believe might break up this system---do you??--Nothing really, you have to look our for #1 and not depend on "big brother" for anything. Have a plan B

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