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Discussion: Ever Been Personally Polled

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Dec. 23, 2011
Tater50
336 posts
Ever Been Personally Polled
No elaboration necessary unless you want too.

Indicate the number of years you have played SSball:
Average number of Tourneys that you played per year:
How many times has an AD or TD ask for your personal opinion about rules?

I have played since 99
10+ Tourneys a year= 120+ Tournaments
Cost: have no clue
I have NEVER been personally polled about the rules, think that SPA had a Poll a couple of years back, but None other.

Here's a point: a poll may be taken & we may be at the same point that we are today, but at least we would know that it is a declaration of the majority!!!


Tater50
Dec. 24, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3930 posts
10+ years(ssusa,ncssa,spa),avg about 8-10 tourneys a year.cost no clue but i would say easily over 10k for the 10 years.

been asked maybe a couple of times about things going on for tourney's,not advice mind,just what i see going on.
Dec. 24, 2011
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
2nd season in ssusa. played 9 tourneys last year.
about 125 events over the years with the young guys.
i organized and ran 44 tourneys from '95 to 2010.
i listened to my managers and their players.i made a number of changes, by listening to what they wanted,every change was good. we played the way the majority wanted it. the tourneys kept getting bigger each year.
i am in total agreement,that a plyers poll,would be very helpful.
not every player could respond on line.it would have to go thru mail. dennis wiley "lights out" 55aaa #7.
Dec. 25, 2011
GSWP001
Men's 60
73 posts
Been playing senior softball since 1998 and do not remember ever being polled about anything. We seem to just get told this is it and if you don't like it then either accept it or leave. Not that I find the rules are all that bad. Actually like most of them. I think that most have had thought put into them and a good reason for implemation.
Dec. 26, 2011
Omar Khayyam
989 posts
Been playing 11 years, about 15 tourneys a year. Don't ever remember being asked by a TD or association about the rules. However, I have not been shy giving my opinion on the rules when the TD varied from the association's rules, or made rating/handicapping decisions that I didn't agree with! If I were a manager in our association, there would have been more opportunity for input for me about proposed and/or current rules.
Dec. 26, 2011
ShaneV
Men's 55
381 posts
I'm guessing SSUSA polls their tournament directors regularly, trying to stay with the trends in comments on and application of current rules. Polling all players would be a huge effort and could be valuable yet the results would span the spectrum. Some would prefer to play 70's ASA rules and some would want 40 pages of special rules including every wild idea you're ever heard, and then some! The majority would be somewhere near the middle, not that I'm an expert on the majority, it's just a scientific fact, for those familiar with "normal distribution". It's the only thing we know for sure about a large population of individuals, their individual opinions will be all over the map.

The bottom line for me is this:

For every odd rule that one individual might prefer (including me), that pulls one way or the other on the spectrum (above), there are many senior players against that particular rule change. I don't like bat restrictions, USSSA pitching, 70' bases, blow-out innings or games, middle-wars, 1-1 counts and many other things that are out there. I like just about everything about SSUSA. I try to keep the price down for tournaments I run, but if I had to run a national operation and offer first class tournaments I would have to charge $500-$600 for the 3-day tournaments, and I would still struggle to keep good people and lucrative relationships with Cities and businesses.

ShaneV
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