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Discussion: So few 55AA

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May 1, 2012
boston
296 posts
So few 55AA
Just curious why there are so few 55AA teams that go to these TOC tourneys?
May 1, 2012
ShaneV
Men's 55
380 posts
It seems 55 teams are rare. Most 55-59 players play with 50's teams. I've
seen it in our area, only 1 55AAA and 1 55M. It's all a matter of our ability
to assemble the players. The larger metro areas have the population to do it
but it still seems rare.

ShaneV
May 2, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Yet another reason for age group and division consolidtion.
May 2, 2012
Corky
Men's 55
444 posts
If your speaking of the actual TOC tournament? The Feb. date is crazy....we've turned down several bids because we put our gloves away at the end of Oct...........TOC should be held in the year you qualify...early Nov. in Fla. would be great. As far as TOC qualifiers, we seem to have good turn outs here in the midwest.
May 2, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
Gary19 is correct, too many age groups, too many divisions.

Corky, we have been through your TOC comments many times before and even though you are spot on, it doesn't seem to register to the brass.
May 2, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
I hear the World Series is being moved to February. The Super Bowl to July. The Final Four to August. The Stanley Cup to September.

How many would think those moves would be absurd?
May 2, 2012
Tate22
Men's 55
259 posts
@ Corky - agree that the TOC is the wrong time of year. It is in the NEW season, not the one you qualified in, It's basically an exhibition tournament. But there must be some money in it, so it continues. We usually earn 2-3 berths per year, but have never gone. I hear it is a nice event, but not really a championship. It's a long way to go in February from California for a social event when we can play 4-6 55 M+ and 55M teams at the same time of year an hour from where we live.

Jawood, I usually agree with you, but I disagree that there too many age groups. For the vast majority of players, the five year groupings are just right. There are always exceptions, and those players can play down if they wish. For the most of us, though, five years works just fine.

Are there too many divisions, absolutely, IMHO. I've come to the conclusion, however, that SSUSA is just responding to their market and the wants of the majority of their customers. Over the 10 years I've been in senior ball, I've encountered a number of teams and managers who prefer to be the biggest fish in a smaller pond. Their choice, and I'll refrain from commenting other than to say, to each, their own. If 4 divisions gets more participation, there could be worse things. Hey, they'll even give you a few free runs to show up and compete. Such a deal!

Don Newhard
Nighthawks 55 M+

May 2, 2012
bullet
Men's 55
130 posts
Corky, I also believe in what you are saying. BUT who are we to questions the SSUSA.We are only the ones who pay out of our pockets to travel long distances to put up with some bad tourney directors.An pay with our money the people aho makes these decisions. OK enough of this,Corky i'll see you this weekend in Indy.
May 3, 2012
Corky
Men's 55
444 posts
bullet I checked the schedule looks like we drew you guys in the second game of the RR 3pm...Be good to see ya.....poor Ralphs got a 7:30am game
May 3, 2012
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
588 posts
Corky, I want to be there when you tell your wife you have a tournament in November. Thanksgiving and Veteran's Day pretty much take precedence to softball that month. Weren't you the same person that worried about playing softball on Mother's Day? Now I like February for spring training; it was always my favorite softball time of year. A national tournament though puts us in the snow belt at a little disadvantage. We get stuck at 2nd base saying, "Oil can".

See you tomorrow, kid.
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