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Discussion: Is this yelling out OK.

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May 17, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
442 posts
Is this yelling out OK.
I have already learned from this message board that Utrip allows more gamesmanship than ASA. I play under ASA rules so if you can comment on those Rules.
Situation: Runner on first. Next batter drops one in the outfield. Relay to SS. The batter, who is now between 2nd and third, yells "Play at 3rd." Runner was already there. SS throws to 3rd and batter takes 2nd on throw. Knowledgeable guy on my team appeals citing "Verbal (interference of obstruction I forget which)." He says batter should be out or at least get a warning. Umps did nothing. Who is right?
May 17, 2012
JamesLG
303 posts

HJ:

I would have to say that is about as chicken shit as it gets on the part of the baserunner. He might just get drilled in the back by a thrown ball next time he is on base.

Thank You:

James
May 17, 2012
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
I agree James, CS for sure.
May 17, 2012
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
612 posts
HJ, while most of my games have been NSA, I have also done many ASA and USSSA games. While I know that there are different perceptions of softball associations depending on where you live and play, from an ump that knows a lot about Indiana and surrounding states, I would not agree that Utrip is more about gamesmanship. It is more aggressive, and deception is part of game. It is very different than the way most people play softball. I could not play it, but I find it fascinating.

For your question, I would have to see/hear the situation for a real answer, but from your description, it sounds bush league. This is going to be based on ump judgment if the act made the fielders react based on the words that you stated. It does sound like a possible verbal interference, and this is not an appeal situation. I reserve my opinion because I was not there, but if I was, and I thought that he changed the fielders' play, I have an out. If I did not believe that it changed the play, I might pull the coaches out and have a discussion. If I believed that it was nothing but some moaning, I would do nothing.

Does your league always have as much controversy as you detail in your posts?
May 18, 2012
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
Nice call, Nancy-while it may not be specified in the rules-I will check-that is a great assessment. You won't see a class player do that.
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