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Discussion: Team Ratings

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May 27, 2012
speedy247
2 posts
Team Ratings
I just played in the Loudoun VA tournament in the 60 AAA classification and the team Stals Post #30 were in the same classification however in the SPA association they are rated as a major team which they should be.
How can the same team be rated differently?
The associations should get together and rate the teams the same. This needs to be reviewed as this is not fare play, of course the caliber of players on a major team is higher than a AAA team.
May 27, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Could this be a thought for ratings? If you have two arms, two legs, equal opportunity to hard work, and put your pants on one leg at a time you can all be in the same classification. Then your win will actually mean something.
May 27, 2012
Omar Khayyam
994 posts
Gary19, you forgot to add your belief that even if you are in your 70s you ought to be willing to play teams in their 40s or 50sójust "takes hard work" along with your two arms and two legs. Nothing more satisfying that beating a team 20 years younger than you.
May 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Omar, I specifically said "ratings", NOT age groups. Teams are rated WITHIN their age group.
May 28, 2012
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
age does play into rating,that is why they have 50+,55+..etc........otherwise it would be just AA,AAA,M,M+......
May 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
As an example, if you are 55+ and have two arms, two legs, and an equal opportunity to work hard with your fellow 55+ then just show up and play the flesh and blood guys across from you. And if they are better than you, that is life. No one guaranteed everyone can win, just the opportunity to work hard and try.
May 29, 2012
Jose #12
Men's 60
86 posts
speedy247 To answer your question, the Stahl Post #30 plays SSUSA, SPA and ISSA. SPA has them rated as Majors but the other two Asociations have them as AAA. They are not the only team in that position. I'm assuming that each association has their own ranking system.

Jose
May 29, 2012
Slowest Pitch
Men's 75
14 posts
Gary 19, that's how it was in the late 80's and early 90's. If you were a 50 yr old team you played all the 50 yr old teams that showed up for the tourn., and you didn't play in a national tourn unless you Qualified for it.
In 1994, the changes started. That was when Major and AAA started. A few years after that AA came into existence, and in 2000 or 2001 major+ started.
No need to tell you why because you know.
That's when teams started complaining about who they were playing, and therefore not going to tournaments unless they could play against teams that were equal or less.
That brings us to where we are now.

Bill
May 29, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Thanks Bill for the history lesson I always suspected.
May 29, 2012
Beasley
Men's 50
169 posts
Slowest Pitch - it wasn't just senior softball that was that way.

I can remember many tournaments in the 80's that were just tournaments. Teams paid their entry fee and you played whoever showed up in your bracket. One game you may be playing a team that was terrible and the next game you could be playing one of the big boys. The thing was, back then you didn't have to determine your classification until mid June there weren't any "A", "B", or "C" tournaments until after the classification deadline.

But I think if you tried to do this today you'd lose quite a few of the lower teams. And to be honest with you I don't think too many of the upper teams would enjoy beating up on a lower team.

Do we need classifications - yes I think we do. But where do you create the dividing line. That's the tough question.
May 29, 2012
Slowest Pitch
Men's 75
14 posts
Beasley, I'm sure you are right. I did'nt play softball before I was 50. I played baseball into my late 30's.
I started playing senior slowpitch when I was 50.
All I know is Senior rules, and I have enjoyed the game for the past 23 years.
Bill
May 30, 2012
Slowest Pitch
Men's 75
14 posts
Gary 19, that's how it was in the late 80's and early 90's. If you were a 50 yr old team you played all the 50 yr old teams that showed up for the tourn., and you didn't play in a national tourn unless you Qualified for it.
In 1994, the changes started. That was when Major and AAA started. A few years after that AA came into existence, and in 2000 or 2001 major+ started.
No need to tell you why because you know.
That's when teams started complaining about who they were playing, and therefore not going to tournaments unless they could play against teams that were equal or less.
That brings us to where we are now.

Bill
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