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Discussion: 52 Core 275 Comp Which Bat?

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July 18, 2012
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
52 Core 275 Comp Which Bat?
The time is upon us. Next week we will come face to face with the dreaded 52 core 275 comp. softball for the first time. From those of you who have actually hit this ball, is there any bat or type of bat that hits this ball further? Or should we just resign ourselves to playing small ball?

July 18, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
"Small ball" is not a bad thing. It will be nice to bring pitching, defense, baserunning, and some strategy back to the game.
July 18, 2012
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
hombre,we use the ASA version(52-300) in our senior league.we use senior bats and we have had plenty leave the park.....also the youngens in the mens open leagues use utrip and asa bats and are hitting them out..its your swing that is gonna make the ball travel,nice and smooth.
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
52 275 LOL.... would be nice to go back to the 80s with metal bats and the 50core 500-575 that we use to hit... Composites have screwed this game so much and the cheaters have made the leagues dumb down the ball so much that kids are shaving their bats for leagues. Sad!
Bat company's are running the show!
July 18, 2012
Marv19
Men's 60
446 posts
If you plan on going to San Clemente make room for 3 cases of softballs. We put 200 or more in play there. And that is just the number we put on the field. I know teams were loosing used ones from their batting practice buckets as well. We could have used whiffle balls there and they would have hit them out and we were just above sea level :O)
July 18, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
Swing, I don't think the Composites started it, ASA did with the bat bans on the better metal bats. Then the lessor balls entered the scene & effected the bats & once again just evolved from there along with the lessor balls.
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
well it started with the double walls and titanium bats, but composites took it to a new level... The game we played in the 80s was with Skyhawk blue stiched balls and single walls.. I knew if I nut one they went 360 plus and some of the biggest hitters in the country would get them at 400 plus.. Blue dots in the cold weather felt like you hit something... now it's what bat ball combo you have... it's sucks.. I appreciate the fact that SPA SSUSA are at least keeping the 44, 375 combo in. we played in 102 degrees in the Cal cup and if you hit them they went and if you didn't they wouldn't go... no accidents! FYI
July 18, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
I agree on most of that. I preferred the Worth Super Dupers... Still have a few too.
I was in Reno and agree about the balls. Looking forward to the Manteca BLD event next month.
July 18, 2012
Fabe
Men's 50
225 posts
We are using the TPS Z1000 ASA models...we call it the "Glass Bat". It sounds like glass breaking, but very good results with the softer balls..Aloha,Fabe
July 18, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
222 posts
One of my "Leagues" is using the 52/275 and honestly, I don't have a good repeatable adjective for it. I prefer the balls we use in tournament play.

It does seem to fly pretty good in cooler weather or low humidity in the spring here in Ohio.

Last night, one homer in a game, in the first inning, and then ball turned to mush rest of the game. 94 degrees and high humidity though at game time. Several home run hitters on both teams, ball just doesn't travel well with Miken's, Reeboks and Combats in my opinion. Homers in our league overall, probably down over 60% or more since we used to use tournament balls two years ago. I'm using stats from my own team as a gauge.--------Last summer was no comparison to this though, as the weather here is much different (warmer and humid) than last year too.

A guy on the team we were playing did use the TPS mentioned above, and it came off pretty decent, but they were hard singles. Honestly the ball does go through the infield pretty well with any bat, solid singles on line drives, just no distance.

I was kidding a guy on my team earlier today, but it almost seems like there is a GPS in the ball that triggers something at about 275/285 feet, and an invisible parachute pops open and the ball comes straight down???

It also seems like some line drives to the outfield tend to knuckle once in a while, or hook or fade like a bad golf shot.
July 18, 2012
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
fabe,yes the z1000 seems to be a bat of choice for the 52 ball with the kids....

swing,the shaving of bats is what started the move toward the 52 ball by assoc's,not the other way around,if these cheaters could of played the game clean,then it most likely would not of happen....blame the cheaters not the ball....

17black,i have only seen 1 mfg'ers 52 ball die in the heat and from use,the demarini ball.the other makers dudley,trump,worth,ad starr tattoo all perform the same hot or cold,with the ad starr the best that i have used....it is the way the ball was design to do....oh my reebok hits this ball fine,in 10 games i have 4 or 5 out... also have a couple out in our regular mens league,ASA-UTRIP bats......
July 30, 2012
tg69
310 posts
We played in the NSA world this weekend and used those balls.They will still leave the park with a good swing but no cheap shots.There was 8 games played on the field we were on and they used the same 4 balls all day, all 8 games.The worst problem that I saw with the balls was the untrue hop.They acted like the old super balls with spin on the second hop.Didnt care much for them but also the u-trip bats seemed to work better.JMO
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