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Discussion: Combining Major and Major Plus

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July 27, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
Combining Major and Major Plus
In the Dalton thread Bruce mentioned that Turn Two won the 60 Major Plus in a convincing fashion. We are a major team and went 1 and 4. The ISSA is asking us to play Turn Two even up in it's tourneys. They sort of breezed through the Major Plus division in Dalton against a pretty strong field. I do not think that combining the Major and Major Plus in the 60 division will work.There is a big difference in that age group. I do think that it is working in the 50s and 55s. Is it possible to have different rules for different age groups. Just a thought. Thanks Harry #20 NV FORCE
July 27, 2012
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2663 posts
Harry, this is a situation where there is one outstanding team in a division. One thing that is in your favor is that they won't be able to pick up their two "at large" players.
Maybe the answer is wait until next year when they move up to 65.
I'd recommend that you play them, paying close attention how they hit. Most of them do not try to do things with the bat that have a low percentage outcome. They peck away at the holes and in front of the outfielders. If your outfielders were to pull in they hit it over their heads.

Good luck!
July 27, 2012
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
But Harry, Turn 2 is an OLD 60 team! Next year they move to 65 and beat up on us older guys! I suspect you'll be seeing them in some of the qualifiers in SSUSA and SPA next year and wind up playing them even up in those due to the 5-year age difference supposedly negating the skill level difference (Major Plus vs Major).
July 27, 2012
DoubleL10
Men's 65
833 posts
Bruce, I've played with and against almost all the Turn 2 players over the years. Even though I know very well how they hit and where they hit, they still get the job done almost every time. And adding Pete Smith and John Davide to an already great team just makes them that much more formidable. I'm sure Omen will have our hands full when we see them in Vegas in October.
July 27, 2012
jrhunch
96 posts
birdie it cant work in the 60s because turn 2 is too good.they beat 50s and 55s.they work hard at their game and deserve what they get.they play anyone and everyone without a complaint.congrats to them.it isnt working out in 55s like you think either.we pace played 55 major plus for a year and won only one game.that isnt very competitive to me,this year triangle masters already got reclassified to major where they just came in second in the spa nationals,also highstreet bucs are struggling and do not enjoy playing plus not to mention bass dissolved and nj hitman are rated major plus even though half their team is with the sportsplex team.if they are going to combine major with major plus there should be a 5homerun 1up rule with 5 runs an inning this way the game is closer going in to the all you can inning thus giving the lower teams a better chance.why should teams like docs pace and highstreet bucs who recruits their players locally have to get rid of players and recruit outside their area to compete in major plus?that is my biggest concern about joining with major plus.i dont need to win i just need to feel that i can compete and sometime win.typed enough stay safe and keep hitting
July 28, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
683 posts
I think that the bottom line is we love to compete. All we need is a fair and honest chance to win.I am sure that the higher ups will keep looking at this and come up with some solution to our problem.I know that our team very rarely goes out side of our home grown league.We have a couple of players who where not born and raised in the Northern Va. area but that was by coincidence. Thanks Harry

July 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Why not combine? If 5 runs is truly an "egualizer" as it is often called, then the difference between the two divisions cannot be very much.
July 28, 2012
turn2
486 posts
Larry is right we are old. In Dalton, we had 10 of our 15 huge that were 65. In Manassas we will have 9 there that are 65.
In Raleigh we will have 11 65 guys and we will be playing 55 major. Omega just won Dalton in this division and we will be playing them, Triangle, Pace and New Jersey. This is hard to do bit we will go out and give it a try. 10 tears age difference is hard to make up.
We will give it our best but it will make is better for when we do get to play teams our on age.
Later,
Donnie
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