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Discussion: New Combat AMBUSH break in tips (and other senior bats)

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Aug. 7, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
New Combat AMBUSH break in tips (and other senior bats)
Hey guys,
Since bats are hitting the field and I have received a lot of communication I would like to go over suggested break in for the Ambush (or any senior bat)...

Use 44 cor 375 balls.

Round 1. Take 25 swings at app. 50% swing effort rotating the bat slightly in between each swing
Round 2. Take 25 swings at app. 75% swing effort rotating the bat slightly in between each swing.
Round 3. Take 25 swings starting around 75% swing effort gradually increasing in swing intensity until your last 15 swings are at game swing speed.

By doing this you will increase both the bats life and potential for higher performance down the road. It is not recommended for ANY senior bat to use balls other than this unless it is the new .52 ball. Doing so will dramatically DECREASE the life expectancy of the bat. Try and not to use wet balls during practice bp sessions and continually rotate your bat each time you swing it. Best of luck to all of you and feel free to contact me about any senior bat.
Alan tricoach18@att.net 561-718-7504
Team Ambush
Team 1 Sports
Aug. 7, 2012
zonk
56 posts
Great info Alan, thanks. Would like to add: distribute hits along the whole length of the hitting barrel. Constant pounding to a concentrated spot can cause weakness, especially in the break-in process.
Aug. 7, 2012
zonk
56 posts
Just saw your rotation suggestion, sorry.
Aug. 7, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
Wow, maybe the title of this thread should of read for those just starting out in softball or never used a composite bat.
Aug. 7, 2012
zonk
56 posts
5Tools: If this is shot at me, I have been playing SS since 1993. I have been using composite bats since 2001. I had a senior moment; and, skipped over Alan's suggestion of rotating the bat. If not meant for me, cool. Even if meant for me....cool.
Aug. 8, 2012
Avis
8 posts
Just received my 30 oz, abush..cant wait to giveit a test run.Also have batting gloves team 1 sports. they fell great.
Aug. 8, 2012
Avis
8 posts
WE just got done hitting with my 30 oz end loaded Ambush. Im left handed an all my power is to right/right center. I hit one out to left center..First time ever. The more we hit with it the more it opened up.The ball comes of this bat REAL Nice . Its like a nice new piece of #@!. the more u use it the more u get..Also used the batting gloves. I use nothing but Franklins..Well quess what these gloves are very nice an soft,Get a good grip..A+ all around I highly recommend these products. Great job Alan Tanner
Aug. 9, 2012
southernson
261 posts

Alan,
Are you bringing some bats to Jacksonville, FL this weekend, like a 28 balanced?

Thanks...
Aug. 9, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
I will have a truck load in Jacksonville arriving Friday pm so get with me. The only models I don't have are 28 balanced and the 30's. They should be here Wednesday so I can take an order. Call if you have questions.
Alan
561-718-7504
Team Ambush
Aug. 9, 2012
miken44
78 posts
alan got the bat today liked the feel as soon as i opened it went out got 25 swings on it ball really jumps will take it out again sunday and hit it harder as i put more swings on it thanks for the fast delivery i will pass your number out to my teammates
Aug. 9, 2012
cal50
Men's 50
284 posts
Alan, 2 of us put about 150 swings on the 28 oz. We were hitting on a baseball diamond using the classic M Reebok balls. Without a doubt it hits as far as the Reebok or Miken. Tomorrow we will be hitting and comparing the 3 bats.

We hit to the opposite field with and it didn't seem like you could miss hit a ball. The sweet spot is bigger.

Our 50 Caliber team will be hitting this weekend and I will have another review on distance and sweet spot after this weekend.
Aug. 10, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Thanks 50 cal,
It's going to jump start again around 200 swings and start AMBUSHING people in the stands behind the fence. I am getting calls,texts, and emails from all over as shipped bats are arriving and guys are getting out with bp...everyone loves the biggest sweet spot of any senior bat!
If you need information on the Ambush you can reach me at tricoach18@att.net or 561-718-7504. Don't show up to the field without one....and get Ambushed!
Alan
Team 1 Sports
Aug. 10, 2012
Paco13
373 posts
Quick Q? Those are lot of swings to open up especially for a senior bat. Wondering if it going to crack at 200 swings later, which in reality it is no differnce than the present senior bats already out there. I guess we have to wait and see. I need a new bat, but will wait to see how this one does, I like the whitE centenerian a lot, but lets see how long this one last after the initial 200 swings. Please keep posting.

PR Ninja out

JESUS TE AMA.
Aug. 10, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Not really...they perform great right out of the wrapper but they get crazy hot around 150. They will meet or exceed other senior bats right away. But At 150 , the bat isn't even into the first quarter of it's performance life. And after the 150, watch out....you will see batted ball speeds and distance exceeding what you have done with any other senior bat. Plus, the largest sweet spot of any senior bat...the reviews are coming in hour by hour, people are amazed right out of the wrapper. Best of luck,
Alan tricoach18@att.net
Team Ambush
Aug. 11, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
222 posts
Just got my 28 ounce on front porch---THANKS

Question (I am putting this on the board instead of calling direct)

I ordered the end load. Bat seems really light (you talked me in 28 from 30) but it doesn't say end load anywhere on the bat???

How can you tell? Raining today so won't get any swings on it today.
Aug. 11, 2012
leftyfalcon
Men's 65
158 posts
All my combats have a fl at the end of the knub when endi loaded.
Aug. 11, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Hey guys! Just to clear some confusion and forgive me for not posting for the masses...

The Ambush is marked on the barrel either:
FL. For full load which is the end loaded model or...
BL for the balanced version.
Because of the barrel, design, and construction it may not immediately feel as end loaded as some bats but it does have a maximum end load in it. You may notice a slight increase in bat speed because of this which is advantageous.

17 swing it on the front porch with the wrapper on! Lol
If it still seems too light send it back to me and I'll ship you a 30 immediately.
Thanks,
Alan
Team 1 Sports
Aug. 12, 2012
miken44
78 posts
took the ambush out thursday 1st 20 swings nice line drives next 3 out of 5 320 plus feet 44 core 375 took bat out sunday the ball was just jumping hit another 10 out with it the bat is hot out of the wrapper again alan thanks 28 oz end load
Aug. 12, 2012
Qnine
Men's 50
17 posts
Tri18 is this new Combat Ambush coming true weight .Cause some of those Centenerian was not . I swung two 28 oz fl but one was lighter then the other
Aug. 12, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Yes, they are generally very close to posted weight. The bat is complex inside but very precisely made. Both the end weight and balanced models consistently weigh out within .01-.02 of the advertised weight.
Call me with any questions. 561-718-7504
Alan
Aug. 12, 2012
garyheifner
361 posts
Not to dispell any of the above but:

A guy on my team is a bat junkie. His pole barn wall has a line up of bats covered in dust that were suppose to be the next best thing.

Is the above true or just salesmen hype to sell several thousand bats before the real word gets out????
Aug. 12, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Garyheifner,
I just sent off a review to Allan on a 26 oz BA, and no he didn't ask for it. I however would definitely recommend the bat. I have done these for 3 companies and 4 bats some years ago. Did not do measurements or comparisons to other bats like back then.
Test of time will tell the complete story. All I know is that for the balls I hit at the end, the bat is great. Everyone hits differently and with different power.
Balls used were all used 44\375 balls.
Aug. 12, 2012
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Alan, any idea as to the amount of endload in the Ambush?
Aug. 12, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Bruce,
Call him on that one. I do know the max is 1oz. Not sure if there are increments as well.
Aug. 12, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
One ounce is the maximum that can be used which is what's in the FL (end load) model. App. 1/2 in the balanced version. The bats interior is quite complex and weight is distributed a little different than other bat models. Result, ,, tremendous performance!
Alan
Team 1 Sports
Aug. 13, 2012
JamesLG
303 posts

I just received my new Ambush yesterday. It is great timing because both of my game ready U2's are cracked. Must have broke both at the Western Nationals.
I now have one new and nearly bloke in Reebok balanced Melee, One old U2 in great shape and I know it has pop and the new Ambush. I will add my $.02 cents on performance comparisons after the Ambush is broke in. This comparison will come from a 180lb guy with what I have been told is pretty good bat speed.
The Ambush does have a great feel and balance. Can't wait to take some cuts and see hot it hits.
Thank You:

James
Aug. 13, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Glad I bailed you out James! Appreciate the order.
Alan tricoach18@att.net
Aug. 15, 2012
miken44
78 posts
could very well be the hottest bat right out of the wrapper you will ever swing it has a very large sweet spot
Aug. 15, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I get the whole durability thing, but how much hotter do you guys need the bats to get? How many more rules do you want that bastardize the game just to massage your egos, and alleviate your apparent insecurites?
Aug. 15, 2012
Gary33
143 posts
Venom being spewed on this page too!
Aug. 15, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Clearly you struggle with exactly what 'venom' is.
Aug. 15, 2012
tater9
62 posts
Gary19, you mentioned that you choose a restaurant, clothing store,hardware store,plumber and so on to only patronize those who provide what you are looking for. With such disdain for the senior game why do you keep coming to this forum? You are looking for something that isn't here.

You also mentioned that you hoped to improve the game and product enough so it becomes attractive to spend that kind of money to play tournaments again. 2082 posts later....how is that working out for you?

Other than engaging in your First Amendment right of free speech your attempts are nothing more than an excercise in futility.

Keep posting:)
Aug. 15, 2012
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
It was so quiet for several days with good conversation. Only thing that change was Gary19 came back. Phooey!
Aug. 15, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
tater,

(a) This is free. All of those others aren't.

(b) Perhaps some change might come from it that will improve the product and make it more enticing. Expensive, very small brackets with courtesy runners for outfielders who can cover 1/4 of an outfield but can't run 65' and teams actually accepting gift runs just needs some improvement.

And no, that has not worked well yet, but I just keep hoping my generation will find the pride to make the changes and improve the game.
Aug. 15, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1003 posts
Webbie, listening to a AAA player at best, knock the Senior game to the extent G19 has been a pathetic experience for many! Back to the Ambush, I will try one when somebody let's me try.... I'm a Demarini company man for this year! LOL
Aug. 15, 2012
miken44
78 posts
swing if you try it you wil put your demarini down i also have a demarini one the blue one it does not compare to the ambush guys on my team are ordering them now
Aug. 15, 2012
Beasley
Men's 50
169 posts
@Swing - definately try it when you can, I think you'll really enjoy the bat. I think we all understand using a bat because you've made an agreement is the right thing to do.
Aug. 22, 2012
Joey525i
Men's 55
10 posts
The Ambush showed up at my door this morning. I just went through the break in tips, I have around 80 hits on it. Double header tomorrow..... Thank you Alan
Aug. 23, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
You are welcome. I hope you go 8 for 8! Let me know how you
Are doing with the Ambush...
Thanks again,
Alan
Tricoach18@att.net
Team Ambush
Aug. 23, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
I think if he goes 8 for 8 you should send him a sample of that Wintercrest stuff
Aug. 23, 2012
Joey525i
Men's 55
10 posts
Good day, 7 for 9, couple of pop-ups for outs, won both games. BTW the Wintercrest works well!
Aug. 24, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
876 posts
tri: Alan, just some feedback from my friend whom tested his new Ambush you sent to him. He told me he hit 200 times with the Ambush and it did not come close to the Reebok Melee in distance. Thought you might want to know.
Aug. 24, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
Ed, thanks for the feedback. As you know swing speeds and technique vary quite a bit from player to player. He may need some more swings on the bat or it may be that his swing is dialed into a bat he has used for awhile. Have him hit another 50 or so and call me,.
Thanks,
Alan
Sept. 5, 2012
Tri18
625 posts
BTW,
I am combining the good of Wintercrest and the great of Ambush together right now. Each of the next 200 Ambushes going out receive a jar of WINtercrest with it!
Alan Team 1 Sports
Tricoach18@att.net
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