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July 13, 2006
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
597 posts
Same Bat, Different Subject
Is anyone using Ultra IIs in leagues? If so, where and what association is the league played under? Thanks.
July 13, 2006
GT
Men's 60
162 posts
Nancy, Harris County Senior Softball League, Houston, Texas. We use the Ultra 2 and use ASA rules or our league rules. Curious, why the inquiry? We have about 260 members in the league. Probably (guess here) 70 % use the Ultra 2.Might be higher. Hasn't been a problem.
July 14, 2006
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
597 posts
GT, we have one league here that allows U IIs. It is ASA with some park senior rules. I know when I am in Florida that the teams use them under ISA rules. It is always best to use the same bats in leagues that you use in tournaments, and what do you do or use in a league that does not allow them? I was also wondering if anyone was actually playing in a league sanctioned by a senior softball association as opposed to one of the major associations that has seniors as a specialty class.
July 14, 2006
GT
Men's 60
162 posts
Nancy, as for our team and most of the players in our league, we play SPA or SSWC where u2's are legal. We do have a few players that play other associations tournaments, but for the most part u2 is legal where we play. We also have BayAreaSeniorSoftballAssociation that plays in Pasadena, Tx. They follow ASA and league rules. They also allow the U2. We are pretty much u2 people although some guys don't use it. Long as its legal, we are going to use it. We'll change with the times when we have to. Someone remind us when to change, we are old.
PS Miken has made a ton of money from our leagues. Can't believe how many U2's we have broken. Thats the only 2 senior softball leagues in Houston, although the city of Houston is trying to start a senior softball league from what I hear. Hope I have helped.
July 14, 2006
Angie
Men's 75
2 posts
Nancy; Our association SSUSA uses the ultra II in all their tournaments, qualifiers, and Regional, National Championships. Based in CA, but covering all of the U.S.A. it is the largest associantion of Senior Softball.

Angie
July 14, 2006
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
597 posts
Angie, thanks, but I was more interested in senior softball association involvement in leagues or even local round robins. Our team is real familiar with SSWC in tournament play.

Also Steve Boone is looking for players to put one more team together in Avon, Indiana (west of Indy). It is 40+ using senior rules and the U II. If you are interested, please call his cell phone, 317-902-8243.
July 14, 2006
GT
Men's 60
162 posts
Nancy, I forgot to add that for the past few years, we have run local tournaments,anywhere from 3 to 5, and U2 is legal. And there are a bunch of local tournaments around and they also allow the U2. Hope that helps.
July 18, 2006
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
We are playing in the 40+ plus league in Avon and they are using the Ultra's. Booney is trying his best to accomodate the senior teams and would like to get more of them involved in Avon. The diamonds are nice and the facility is like paradise compared to Metro. COME ON OUT.
Aug. 9, 2006
4x4
Men's 65
592 posts
The Vintage league in San Jose Ca. allows the Ultra 2 and the original Ultra. The league plays 6 games per week and no injury problems with either bat. The large majority of players (80%+) are tournament players.
Aug. 9, 2006
Duke
Men's 60
698 posts
Nancy,

One of the leagues that I play in allows Ultra II in half of their games. Everyone wants to use them, but they are not allowed in all of the park districts. Depending on which town we are playing, we use Ultra II in some and half the time not. Go figure. The only reason that I want to use Ultra II in leagues, is because I want to use the same bat that I use in tournaments.

Andy :-)
Aug. 9, 2006
arizonaken
Men's 65
22 posts
Nancy, interesting topic you have going. We are out here in Arizona and belong to the Sun Cities Senior Softball League. During the big season, October thru April we will have 26 teams in two divisions. 13 teams in each division. The "A" division are the younger, better players. The "B" division is for the older players. The fields we play on belong to our senior communities. So we are the only one who play on them.
The fences are 250 and 265 respectivley. We allow only ASA approved bats. No U2s are allowed. Our ages run from 55 to the 80's. We don't have enough players in the age groups to have 55+ or 65+ teams. So on a team you could have 55 and 75 yr olds. Out of the 152 players in the "A" division approximately 40 are tournament caliber players. So the U2 could present a problem so that is why we stick the ASA approved bats only.

Ken Skinner
Aug. 9, 2006
tcadmw1
Men's 55
62 posts
I play and live in Florida and there seems to be a little confusion regarding what is league play and what is Florida Half Century (FHC) Softball Play. FHC play is not really a league but more like a registered association playing senior softball monthly tournaments. They are incorporated and the title accutally has ASA in the formal title but they are not bound by ASA or even registering teams through ASA anymore. We are indepentant regarding associations.

We use ISA umpires, register teams through ISA, and adopted ISA rules when our own rules don't cover the situation. But we aren't ISA, we are FHC. The U2 is allowed in FHC monthly tournaments but not because ISA allowed it.

There are many Senior leagues in Florida and some of them allow the U2 and some don't. It just depends on where you live and who is running the league. Sorry for the lecture but I wanted to make sure FHC play wasn't being confused as the official senior softball league for all florida leagues.

Mike Walker
Aug. 11, 2006
Southpaw55
Men's 55
50 posts
Hi Nancy....we use the Ultra II's here in San Diego in the 55+ senior leagues that play almost every week day morning. Most of us who play in these leagues are on tournament teams as well and enjoy being able to get some at bats between tournaments with our U2's.
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