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Aug. 22, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Lake Alliance
Any one know what this park is like? What it has, etc etc.
Aug. 22, 2012
SSUSA Staff
1163 posts
Lake Alliance is a four field complex with 315' symmetrical fencing on all fields. Has a very good snack bar and easy parking/access to the complex. Has been a fixture in the Northern Championships and prior to that, the Eastern National Championships, every year we have been in the Lansing area.
Aug. 22, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Thanks
Aug. 23, 2012
wagon487
Men's 50
518 posts
google and goole earth are your friends!!!!! use them......
Aug. 23, 2012
biggflyy1953
11 posts
Actually, the fields are 315 down the lines and 322 in center. Alot of room to cover in the OF.
Over the past several years field maintenance has been lacking. Grass is vey high and thick, causing balls to be hit through the infield to die quickly in the grass and causing the OFers to continuously run excessively to retrieve the ball. Routine singles become very easy doubles.
Last year in a May tournament, thousands upon thousands of 1 foot dandelions literally covered the OF. The OF was a farce. It was cut the next day on Sunday.
Alot of players complained. Hopefully that will not be an issue this year. I am a little pessimistic because of past field conditions over the years.
Make sure to be some cover for shading purposes, Complex has no cover from the sun.
Aug. 27, 2012
bullet
Men's 55
130 posts
A response to biggflyy,NOTHING changed. Tha grass was too high.It was cut ALITTLE Sat night after MANY complains.
NO foul lines in the outfields.There response was it would use 4 bags of lime.
They NEVER did nay work to the infields in between games.
The water in coolers smelled like sewer water.
Then the dust 2" of dust just to walk into the park,come on there is stuff called cement and asphalt.Spend some money and upgrade this place.
After how many years of the Northern championship being played there,and ALL of these complaints,why is it still being played there.
Now another point of view,why aren't the Major and Major plus not playing here also.They ALWAYS play at the nicer park in East Lanshing.SSUSA why is this,I know your answer already,based on teams, the number of fields,wrong answer we all pay,ROTATE age groups and divisions in the future if you must use the fields in Pottersville.
Aug. 27, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Must agree 100%, no reason to have a big tournament at such a low quality complex like liberty park! No way I would want to go back to this tournament if this complex is used again! Only positive things was the concession stand workers were friendly and the Bar called Charlies by the complex!
Aug. 27, 2012
miken44
78 posts
the complex had a very nice concession stand with great people the rest of the place was horrible no chalk lines no batter box was outlined which normally gets wiped out but not even down on sunday morning grass was high and thick should of been mowed we were given 6 balls if you need more you bought them wasnt even a good ball 44/375 there are better balls to be used you pay 525 dollars to play a tournament and it cant even be on fields that are taking care of teams were saying that they would not go back next year if the park was not taken care of and if same ball was used and if they had to buy balls we pay alot of money to enter stay in hotels visit local restaraunts and bars so why put with low budget fields and ssusa providing and telling us if you need more you have to buy spa tournys at least fields have been good and balls are better next year will look at syracuse instead what are those fields like anyone knows
Aug. 27, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
If you ever read any of my posts, you know I don't ever complain much.

HOWEVER

The one thing missing at Potterville (whatever the complex is called) -------------was CACTUS.

I have never seen so much dust, except maybe out in the western desert. This is central MICHIGAN. Had to go through our car wash twice to get all the gunk off the car------long dirt road to the park, and dirt parking lot, was the same stuff used in the infields too.

Bad hops in infield. I saw a couple shortstops trip (and get hurt bad enough to be taken out of games) going back for pop-ups and tripping on the ridge of the outfield grass that was a few inches higher than the moonscape infield.

I'm glad somebody posted about the balls. They didn't seem like the typical balls used at SSUSA tournaments, at least coming off the bat? Maybe they were the same but something seemed "suspicious"

AND for the balls that did go over the fence, with the "team that hits them go fetch policy in force"-------why not OPEN up the gates between the fields instead of having to run completely around the complex to go get your own balls. My gosh I think I went half a mile to chase home runs because I couldn't get through a gate anywhere.

I agree the folks at the concession stand were great. Charlies was the only close by establishment between games, good people, I think they were overwhelmed at lunch with all the teams showing up at the same time, at least on Saturday???

WORST COMPLEX for any tournament, any association I have seen in Senior Ball so far!!!!!

Our team was "excited" to go back to Lansing this year after having played in East Lansing last year. Big Surprise when we got to Potterville!!!!!!!!
Aug. 27, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
However CORKY and the SSUSA Truck was VERY FRIENDLY, HELPFUL and informative about equipment. GREAT, GREAT GUY!!!!!!!!!
Aug. 27, 2012
hector
Men's 60
24 posts
miken44
The fields in Syracuse are taken care of.
I played there last year & this year in July.
Going there in Sept., & I am expecting the field condition to be the just as good.
Aug. 27, 2012
miken44
78 posts
hector thanks was just talking to manager we are going to have a meeting for the team discuss what we need to do for next year and what tournys do they want to play syracuse was one that corky said was nice and that the fields are nice
Aug. 27, 2012
miken44
78 posts
17black get that knee healed up because you and 86 orange with his elbow are two big pieces of capp steel charlie will be getting in touch with all of us about a meeting for players and tournys for next year you are right about corky nice guy and very informative about equipment
Aug. 27, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
LOL, at first glance I thought Miken44 said myself and 86 Orange were "two big pieces of crap" which may indeed be the case with our injuries LOL.

"Chase your own homers enforced" was not enforced. You had to go out the main entrance gate of a four field complex and then backtrack 1000 feet to pick up the ball and then go back to the entrance and come back in.

We had a fan sitting in the outfield watching games, searching for shade. He moved his chair 360 degrees around a light pole following the shadow LOL.
Aug. 28, 2012
miken44
78 posts
17 black myself and rest of the team know you and 86 were both hurt what a difference it would of made if you two were healthy sorry if it looked funny on board you two are solid players and being hurt and still playing takes a lot guts we can only improve our team the 2 additional pickups were great thanks for the find we will put it all together
Aug. 28, 2012
miken44
78 posts
would like to thank universal mechanical for a very exciting game sunday morning it was fun to see who would put it away 2 outs bottom of 9th bases loaded fly ball game over the game showed heart both sides again excellent game
Aug. 28, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Meant to say Lake Alliance not Liberty park in my response above!

That Capp Steel/Universal game Sunday was an AWESOME game to watch! It was a shame somebody had to lose that game! I sat on the bench up against the concession stand and watched most of the game! I think the fans from both teams wanted to win this game more then the players, lol, they sure cheered alot for both teams!

Players Warehouse/S $ J Demolition/TTI #32
Aug. 28, 2012
miken44
78 posts
kid32 it was a very good game and it was fun to be a part of it you could here the fans from both sides yelling as much as the players were our sponser for capp steel who came up for the weekend said that was the most exciting game he had seen and was excited to watch it he told me that the fans were as exciting as the game was hope to see you guys again at another tourny
Aug. 28, 2012
neck10
491 posts
east lansing sports complex was a good place to play liberty could hold all the tournement great parking.
Aug. 28, 2012
kid 32
20 posts
Agree Liberty Park would be a much better place, they have like 11 fields or so and are well maintained! Plenty of blacktop parking like you said and a nice big AIR CONDITIONED restaurant/bar inside the complex! Have played there many times over the years and will be playing there in September with my younger guy team! Also would be nice to have all teams at the same complex like they do in the SPA in Dalton, Ga.
Aug. 28, 2012
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
^^^^^^^^^^Kid 32 well said.

I had many friends playing at East Lansing, would have liked to see some games when we were not playing, but it was 40 minutes or so away from Potterville where we got relegated too.

Would love to see the whole tournament at one complex (when possible, and I know that is not logical sometimes) and then Corky wouldn't have to drive all over the place all weekend with the SSUSA truck either :)

That all being said, I think we will get more play with the other Thread Neck10 started with the title "Northern Championships"
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